2016 Postmortem
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(2,550 posts)As my model.
leftinportland
(247 posts)I believe they get even more time off.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)and even then it was just a long weekend. Still remember it fondly though.
1monster
(11,012 posts)weekend was in 1990.
True, my DH did have a nine week vacation of sorts when he was recovering from triple bypass surgery... but I don't think that counts even though he used accrued vacation time along with Family Leave Act time.
elleng
(130,973 posts)Joob
(1,065 posts)LongTomH
(8,636 posts)......before us, working fewer hours as productivity rises. I'm glad someone has a future like that to look forward to, even if it's not us!
Yavin4
(35,441 posts)They're the roadblock. They vote for people like Brownback in KS. Or Rick Scott in FLA. As long as African Americans and Latinos get the same government benefits, they won't support it.
Even if Bernie won a 50 state landslide victory, he wouldn't be able to deliver this.
kcjohn1
(751 posts)Bernie offered this type of system, and AA's/Latinos overwhelming voted for Hillary, while Whites voted for Hillary much less. Doesn't feed into your talking points does it?
The Dems are as much responsible for the corporate system we have as the GOP. You make it sound like Dems are really offering something different from the GOP. Did we get single payer under Obama with massive majorities? We got GOP plan from the early 90s. Hell the latest Dem front runner has told us we can't have single payer EVER.
Yavin4
(35,441 posts)Years of experience in America has taught them that left leaning politicians get destroyed on a national level. From McGovern through Mondale through Dukakis etc. White working class Americans DO NOT support a progressive agenda. If they did, we would have what Europe has.
kcjohn1
(751 posts)If you think Dukakis/Mondale are of the same ilk as Bernie. These guys were the establishment, and they were the early iterations of the Bill Clinton's of the world who turned their backs on the "New Deal" progressiveness.
White working class have abandoned the Democratic party because the party abandoned them.
Yavin4
(35,441 posts)Watch the film, "All the Way", about LBJ. LBJ, on a domestic level, pushed for an extremely progressive agenda in his time. Yet, he knew that he lost the South for the Democrats for a generation. He was right. To this day, 50+ years later, White working class in the South are STILL butt hurt over the passage of the Civil and Voting Rights bills. STILL!!! They even got the SCOTUS to rule against certain aspects of the Voting Rights bill.
And it's not just the South. Whites in Maine voted for LePage, twice!! Whites in Michigan voted for Rick Snyder. Whites in WI voted for Scott Walker once for governor and again in the recall election where big labor came out heavy against Walker. The unions did everything they could to oust Walker, but the White voters re-elected him. WI is a perfect example of the White working class voter abandoning the Democrats, not the other way around.