If Sanders won EVERY pledged delegate in California, he'd still be 82 short of a PD majority.

[ucrdem]

A majority of pledged (elected) delegates = 2,026. Right now, Hillary has 1,769 PDs, and Sanders has 1,469 PDs. If Sanders won every pledged delegate in California, he would have 1,469 + 475 = 1,944 PDs. That's 82 short of a pledged delegate majority.

And once we include the super delegates, who give Hillary a much bigger spread, Sanders needs to win 841 out of 914 total remaining delegates to clinch at 2,383. Yes, it's still mathematically possible, but the chances of it happening are infinitesimal.

Figures from: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

[NanceGreggs]

1. STOP with the facts!

STOP with the numbers!

Have you NO shame?

[ucrdem]

2. Just between you and me I left out the podium bird delegates

promise you won't tell . . .

[NanceGreggs]

5. Which is exactly why ...

... your facts are rendered meaningless.

Everybody's heard about the Bird. The Bird is THE word.

What part of that is it that you don't get?

[ucrdem]

11. I was never any good at #BernieMath.

[CentralMass]

3. For argument sake it would give him a lead of 40 pledged delegates over Hillary.

[ucrdem]

7. Only if she also vanished from the SD, NM, ND, NJ, and MT ballots.

Otherwise she'd probably recoup the PD majority there. In any case, even if for the sake of argument she lost all 475 CA PDs, she would still clinch on June 7.

[CentralMass]

8. Of course. The hypothetical situation posed dealt with CA's 317 delegates.

[ucrdem]

10. California actually has 546 delegates, 475 PDs and 71 SDs.

Call us snowflakes but we're pretty special.

[CentralMass]

12. Excellent !

[bobbobbins01]

4. Good thing there are more states than just CA left.

Or else this might make some sense.

[grasswire]

6. he doesn't need to

He just needs to get enough to prevent HRC from getting the majority.

[ucrdem]

9. He can't. She only needs 73 delegates and there are 806 up for grabs on June 7.

I'm sorry, but it really is over.

p.s. she might even clinch on June 5 -- PR has 60+7 delegates and VI has 7+5, but more likely she'll just get a little closer. But June 7 is definitely the grande finale.

[Scootaloo]

13. Damn, almost did it again

I had a snarky post about you and Russia typed up, then noticed "oh shit, it's ucrdem again"

I gotta make like a sticky note or something.

Just thought that might amuse you

[ucrdem]

14. LOL, glad to hear it

[riversedge]

29. She picked up a few more yesterday. sorry no link at this time.

[anotherproletariat]

15. Excellent point. nt

[snort]

16. Please folks, stay home.

Voting is so very pointless and your feet are tired.

[bahrbearian]

20. Don't forget "Inevitable"

[Cobalt Violet]

18. well since we're doing ifs...

if hillary gets recommended for indictment from the FBI (which is likely to happen). She wont win anything.

[Thinkingabout]

27. Don't wish for sonething which may happen to both Bernie and Jane

[B Calm]

19. Another divisive post.

[msanthrope]

21. Math is divisive and reality-biased. nt

[B Calm]

22. Continue dividing the party.

[msanthrope]

23. Yes. By pointing out the Math needed for the nominee to clinch. nt

[Tarc]

24. #berniemath, where the only operator that counts is "addition of imaginary numbers"

[TwilightZone]

25. Not enough capital letters and exclamation points for you?

We could throw in some false assertions, links to right-wing sources and some hyperbole. Those seem to be popular around here.

You shouldn't use words you don't understand, like divisive.

[B Calm]

26. Continue dividing the party.

[Thinkingabout]

28. Who is dividing the party?

[B Calm]

30. I think I already pointed that out.

[Thinkingabout]

31. Just because Sanders is behind should not divide the party.

Would you think it would be a good result if Sanders was winning for Hillary supporters to get behind Sanders and work to elect him as president? I voted for Hillary in 2008 but when she was not going to be the nominee I worked hard to elect Obama. I did not take her loss as personal.

[B Calm]

32. The primary continues and will continue until the convention. As long as Bernie is still in, I'll

fully support him. You on the other hand are wanting to prematurely call this primary to a candidate that falls short of the required amount of delegates, I'm not. Therefore you are being divisive, not me.

[Thinkingabout]

34. I am okay with your continual support of Sanders, I am asking if the opposite was

True and Sanders had the numbers would you feel the same way. I am saying support who you want, when the primaries is over then unite and beat Trump.

[B Calm]

35. There's not much that difference in their numbers now. But if Bernie had a slight lead

like Hillary and failed to have the required amount to clinch, I would still feel the same. This primary will be settled at the convention and pretending that it won't, is a divisive lie.

[Demsrule86]

38. There is no required amount of pledged delegates.when a candidate has a majority supers vote for h

When a candidate has a majority, the supers vote for her. And there is a huge difference...because we do proportional...not winner take all ...thus Sander can't catch up. Clinton had less than 100 delegates difference with Obama in 08 ...she won the last nine states and the delegate math didn't work for her and certainly does not work for Bernie.

[Demsrule86]

36. The primary is over and when the voting ends ...it becomes official

It will not go to the convention...Bernie lost and will drop out.

[B Calm]

37. The final vote is at the convention. So stop with the divisive language.

[Demsrule86]

39. The symbolic orchestrated vote is at the convention

The winner is picked way before after the last primary...and Bernie should enter her name by acclamation if he does not want to look like a sore loser.

[B Calm]

40. You are prematurely calling this primary, it's not over until mine or your candidate says

that's it, I'm out of here.

[beachbum bob]

33. sanders can't catch hillary on any metric

not popular vote
not pledged delegates
not super delegates

its all about ego and separating money from his followers wallets

[reddread]

41. Federal offenses