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This seems like a new slant. Have others been reading about a racketeering charge? (Original Post) bkkyosemite May 2016 OP
context? underthematrix May 2016 #1
looks like a bullshit article posted by a bullshit writer Schema Thing May 2016 #2
Click bait. Aerows May 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #33
The Media IS Mostly CORRUPT ! CorporatistNation May 2016 #50
agree. Schema Thing May 2016 #67
Did you check the writer of said post MattP May 2016 #3
It was removed because it was bull bravenak May 2016 #4
If you've been checking it out, you have to know it was written by a bullshit artist onenote May 2016 #5
You assume wrong. I did not know who the person was or anything about him. I am bkkyosemite May 2016 #26
Fine. Now you know. Do you leave up a reference to a story written by this guy or not? onenote May 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #34
And will you stop complaining about them? onenote May 2016 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #66
Given What Is Already Known About The Clinton Foundation - Seems Very Reasonable cantbeserious May 2016 #6
seems very reasonable that the the author is your kind of guy onenote May 2016 #9
Seems Very Reasonable That One Is A HRC Supporter Incapable Of Considering Possibilities cantbeserious May 2016 #12
This citizen can tell the difference between possibilities and total bull. Agschmid May 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #35
Gullible Citizens Who Align With Internet Nutjobs May Find Their Credibility In Tatters emulatorloo May 2016 #39
Gullible HRC Supporters Have Already Surrendered Their Credibility cantbeserious May 2016 #40
Do Some Research On Your New Friend, He Is A Nut Who Thinks He Invented Skype emulatorloo May 2016 #41
Al Gore invented the internet and he is a Dem. aspirant May 2016 #59
... emulatorloo May 2016 #65
All made up.... beachbumbob May 2016 #7
I saw it posted on DU twice today. greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #8
It's an opinion piece, not reporting. winter is coming May 2016 #10
Actually, there has been SOME reporting on that, however slight. Fawke Em May 2016 #37
That's different creeksneakers2 May 2016 #51
It has been said for several months Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #11
Actual working media nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #13
Or a writer who thinks he invented skype and a way to talk to god MattP May 2016 #14
Don't knock the unnamed sources nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #15
This writer is not a political writer he a "lifestyle" writer MattP May 2016 #16
As I said, I just know how this works nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #18
People put nonsense on the internet 24/7 TwilightZone May 2016 #30
Indeed. OilemFirchen May 2016 #68
A wet noodle is not 110 percent iron clad. LuvLoogie May 2016 #31
3) The guy is a nutcase. TwilightZone May 2016 #29
racketeering includes money laundering.....Giustra..... amborin May 2016 #17
They are referencing that article b nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #19
yes, "gone" the same way Kornacki's video explaining how Bernie can still win is "gone" amborin May 2016 #24
Well, nothing is ever gone on the net nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #36
Google News links to a couple of articles discussing this. Barack_America May 2016 #20
Yup nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #21
Yeah a previous post Demsrule86 May 2016 #43
It's all the same bullshit article wrote by a guy who thinks he found MattP May 2016 #23
Do Christians talk to God thru prayer? aspirant May 2016 #60
It was an article written by a hack who insists that he's proven that God exists using science. TwilightZone May 2016 #25
From what I heard it was never on Huff Demsrule86 May 2016 #47
It was briefly on Huff. They included a disclaimer that said they aren't responsible for its content TwilightZone May 2016 #49
It was on Huff pugetres May 2016 #57
Do Christians believe God exists? aspirant May 2016 #62
If the FBI goes that deep and actually finds something, Hillary is fucked. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #32
obstruction of justice, also grasswire May 2016 #53
Most likely. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #54
Reading comp question? ReRe May 2016 #38
It was alerted and deleted Demsrule86 May 2016 #42
source...give a link please Demsrule86 May 2016 #44
There isn't one... Agschmid May 2016 #61
you know that is not true. Demsrule86 May 2016 #45
Just did a google news search of Hillary and racketeering One Black Sheep May 2016 #48
yes, a thread here was hidden. grasswire May 2016 #52
Sounds like Trump to me... coco77 May 2016 #55
No, there where complete thoughts and sentences used. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #64
Stories on CF and its partnership with Guistra in Canada unc70 May 2016 #56
Focus on the fact that it was pulled in under an hour, unless and until merrily May 2016 #58
This sounds a lot like Dick Cheney, "I read it in the Times" in the lead up to Iraq. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #63
I don't think what Bernie did qualifies as racketeering. It was just one loan he arranged, so far. YouDig May 2016 #69

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
2. looks like a bullshit article posted by a bullshit writer
Sun May 29, 2016, 09:58 PM
May 2016


Not saying that might not happen down the line, but that article is just propaganda.
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
22. Click bait.
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:28 PM
May 2016

It got removed from HP anyway, so that should tell everybody something. It wasn't a journalist piece, just a blowhard opinion pusher.

I'm a Sander supporter, but I hate these types of tactics no matter who they are directed against. It cheapens the news source.

Response to Aerows (Reply #22)

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
50. The Media IS Mostly CORRUPT !
Mon May 30, 2016, 12:55 AM
May 2016

Then again...

MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!

onenote

(42,714 posts)
5. If you've been checking it out, you have to know it was written by a bullshit artist
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:01 PM
May 2016

yet you intentionally fan the flames.....


hmmmmm.....

So the question is now that its known that you know, will you take down your post?

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
26. You assume wrong. I did not know who the person was or anything about him. I am
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:38 PM
May 2016

not flaming anything. Was just wondering about it. I saw it on my FB wall.

Response to onenote (Reply #27)

onenote

(42,714 posts)
46. And will you stop complaining about them?
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:29 PM
May 2016

Or will you agree that its okay for me to point out that this OP is knowingly and willfully pushing a story by a crazy bullshit artist.

Or do you want your cake and eat it too?

Response to onenote (Reply #46)

Response to cantbeserious (Reply #12)

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
10. It's an opinion piece, not reporting.
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:04 PM
May 2016

Not the first time I've seen people wondering if the FBI investigation is also looking at the Clinton Foundation, but there has been zero factual reporting to back that up. It's a guess. Perhaps a correct one, but a guess nonetheless.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
37. Actually, there has been SOME reporting on that, however slight.
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:58 PM
May 2016

It's like it went down the memory hole, though.

January 11, 2016: The FBI's Clinton investigation could be looking into Clinton Foundation corruption. Fox News reports, "The FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of private email as secretary of state has expanded to look at whether the possible 'intersection' of Clinton Foundation work and State Department business may have violated public corruption laws," according to three unnamed "intelligence sources." One source says, "The agents are investigating the possible intersection of Clinton Foundation donations, the dispensation of State Department contracts, and whether regular processes were followed." Clinton denies this, saying, "No, there's nothing like that that is happening," However, Fox News points out, "Experts including a former senior FBI agent said the bureau does not have to notify the subject of an investigation." (Fox News, 1/11/2016) One month later, The Washington Post will report that the State Department issued a subpoena to The Clinton Foundation in late 2015. (The Washington Post, 2/11/2016)


Source: The Clinton Email Scandal Timeline ©2016 #ClintonEmailTimeline
http://thompsontimeline.com/The_Clinton_Email_Scandal_-_Long_Version_-_Part_6

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
11. It has been said for several months
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:05 PM
May 2016

by unnamed sources claiming to be in a position to know, that the FBI has opened up a second track to its investigation about racketeering/RICO with regard to the overlapping of large donations to the Clinton Foundation and access or favors or special treatment by the State Dept. while HRC was SoS.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. Actual working media
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:08 PM
May 2016

Two choices.

1.- Story was supposed to be embargoed, and left that early. Oopsie and unlikely...contributor, not staff.

2.- there have been a shitstorm of emails, some involving lawyers...and if the story cannot, 100 percent be backed, well you have precious choice

I can bet on number 2 for the most part, and threats of libel suits...we shall know if the column is taken down, as in contributor, permanently.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
15. Don't knock the unnamed sources
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:12 PM
May 2016

A lot of this has been slow rolled that way. But in this case the story was not 110 percent ironclad.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
18. As I said, I just know how this works
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:23 PM
May 2016

Regardless of what you do as a writer, you need to be 110 percent with a story like this. If it was, Huffpost would keep it.

The two watergate writers had the court beat. They went there because the paper supported them. The first question was...why are these two low lives not defended by the public defender but the top criminal lawyer in town.

My point, even a lifestyle writer can get a scoop of this level, but it needs to be ironclad, bullet proof, whatever you want to call it

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
68. Indeed.
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:55 AM
May 2016

Like this:

The two watergate writers had the court beat. They went there because the paper supported them. The first question was...why are these two low lives not defended by the public defender but the top criminal lawyer in town.

What the actual fuck?

amborin

(16,631 posts)
24. yes, "gone" the same way Kornacki's video explaining how Bernie can still win is "gone"
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:32 PM
May 2016

except the clip was preserved

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
20. Google News links to a couple of articles discussing this.
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:26 PM
May 2016

This topic is a big one. You'd better have your sources in order to print something like this.

For those who are curious, it's about a source claiming the FBI is going to indict Clinton on racketeering under RICO.

MattP

(3,304 posts)
23. It's all the same bullshit article wrote by a guy who thinks he found
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:29 PM
May 2016

A way to talk to god with technology, maybe god told him

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
25. It was an article written by a hack who insists that he's proven that God exists using science.
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:38 PM
May 2016

That should probably be a pretty good clue to its veracity.

There's a reason HuffPo yanked the article.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
47. From what I heard it was never on Huff
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:30 PM
May 2016

It is complete crap..first attempt to post this alerted and locked...no doubt this one survived 4-3...but it is total...nonsense. June 7th can't come quickly enough.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
49. It was briefly on Huff. They included a disclaimer that said they aren't responsible for its content
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:42 PM
May 2016

which I found kind of interesting.

Obviously, they figured out that it was crap and yanked it.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
32. If the FBI goes that deep and actually finds something, Hillary is fucked.
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:48 PM
May 2016

If they find anything she's fucked, but a racketeering charge wouldn't just sink her campaign, it would sink the Clintons.

I think if they do indict, they'll hit her with violating the espionage act and perjury. She supplied and received classified information from people without proper clearance, and exhibited gross negligence in protecting her communications. Then she made false statements in regards to providing all the emails when requested.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
53. obstruction of justice, also
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:30 AM
May 2016

Remember, Nixon's hatchet man Chuck Colson went to prison for obstruction of justice.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
38. Reading comp question?
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:06 PM
May 2016

The last thing that I remember on DU about a RICO charge was against Michigan Gov Rick Snyder a couple or few days ago. I don't remember anything about it's legitimacy, i.e. whether it was a bogus report or not.

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
48. Just did a google news search of Hillary and racketeering
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:39 PM
May 2016

articles come up, but who knows for sure if its legit...if its true, we will have to wait and see in "a few days". If it does actually happen, that would be the end of the Hillary campaign.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
52. yes, a thread here was hidden.
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:07 AM
May 2016

I had thought about that from the getgo. Having to do with the Foundation and the bribes received there for favors from the Sec State.

I wouldn't count it out.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
56. Stories on CF and its partnership with Guistra in Canada
Mon May 30, 2016, 02:00 AM
May 2016

There have been various reports over recent weeks connecting Clinton emails, SD actions, large donations to CF, and the strange CF partnership with Guistra in Canada. There have been discussions, mostly among RW pundits and sites about possible pay to play corruption and money laundering and about money laundering through Canada. The FBI did subpoena CF computers and records, providing a bit more credence.

I'm skeptical of the HP RICO story. While I think there are too many coincidences to ignore, any investigation would require extraordinary evidence before making what would be extraordinary accusations. I can't imagine what would happen if there were proof of public corruption involving the CF, the Clintons, or their associates.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
58. Focus on the fact that it was pulled in under an hour, unless and until
Mon May 30, 2016, 03:50 AM
May 2016

a reputable publisher publishes it and does not pull it publish a retraction.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=204084

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
63. This sounds a lot like Dick Cheney, "I read it in the Times" in the lead up to Iraq.
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:35 AM
May 2016

Baseless accusations with no proof, whatsoever.

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