Hillary will be our nominee June 7th.. Happens every election... they're called rules.

[Tavarious Jackson]

June 4, 2008
As many of you are all too painfully aware, the 2008 election brought the issue of superdelegates back into the mainstream. Still, when Obama made the magic number, the papers did not hedge. With a combination of supers and pledged delegates putting him just over the number he needed, Obama was considered the nominee as of June 3rd, 2008. It is also the case that on June 3rd it was a “last minute rush of superdelegates” that put him over that year’s magic number of 2,118.

Senator Barack Obama claimed the Democratic presidential nomination on Tuesday evening, prevailing through an epic battle with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in a primary campaign that inspired millions of voters from every corner of America to demand change in Washington.

A last-minute rush of Democratic superdelegates, as well as the results from the final primaries, in Montana and South Dakota, pushed Mr. Obama over the threshold of winning the 2,118 delegates needed to be nominated at the party’s convention in August. The victory for Mr. Obama, the son of a black Kenyan father and a white Kansan mother, broke racial barriers and represented a remarkable rise for a man who just four years ago served in the Illinois Senate. (Source)

Wolf Blitzer broke into a McCain speech to say that Obama had secured the nomination. Note that Obama wins the nomination, incidentally, in part by losing South Dakota. Based on him even placing in that contest it was projected that he would get at least four delegates and win.

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/1532358

[imagine2015]

1. Democratic Party rules clearly state a candidate can't be the party nominee before the convention

You might want to read the actual rules.

You don't decide who the nominee is. The pledged and superdelegates will make that decision at the convention and not before it.

This is really simple, basic stuff.

You didn't know that?

[CorporatistNation]

24. AS With The Case of "Everything Else," Hillary Inc. In MANY Cases Has Forgotten or Ignored The Rules

MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!

[roguevalley]

40. rules don't apply to HRC. they will never listen.

[ebayfool]

2. Run out of stories from angrypatriotmovement dot com, didja?

Busy little bee!

[QC]

3. You saw that too, eh? A right wing militia site.

[ebayfool]

6. Ayup! Something else, huh!? n/t

[QC]

20. Clearly, when one is correcting the record, quantity counts

far more than quality.

[cherokeeprogressive]

4. That was FAAAST, huh. Dang! I bet he has a list to choose from. Got it this morning via email.

[ebayfool]

5. Yup. And I had a lovely gift basket reply of their Clinton articles all set to reply and BOOM!

Deleted! I dunno about a list, seems it would be more, I dunno ... subtle? Mebbe!

[SMC22307]

34. Tavarious deleted his/her link to angrypatriotmovement dot com?

Damn. I would have liked to have seen that little Camp Weathervane gem.

[ebayfool]

37. Yupper. I'm sure there will be other 'slip-ups'.

I don't think some people are housebroke yet.


BoyHowdy, they have some fine scandalicious story writing there! UmmmHmmm! Too bad it was deleted before DU could be edumacated!





That's sarcasm for those who are short of it.

[SMC22307]

38. Son of Liberty, Lady Liberty, The Constitutionalist... Tavarious?

I suddenly feel like belting out "God Bless America."

[barrow-wight]

11. Do you honestly think every Hillary supporter here is paid?

Sheesh. This is getting old. But even aging cheese has a lifespan, and I believe this particular schtick only has about 9 more days.

[cherokeeprogressive]

14. Sure thing, brand new poster... sure thing.

Nine more days. Got it. Have you guys worked out yet who gets which shift when you start patrolling the Bernie Sanders group looking for posts that don't follow a certain bent?

[barrow-wight]

22. Ka Ching Ka Ching! :)

[Scootaloo]

27. Of course not.

I can't imagine any serious political campaign actually paying for the quality of stuff most Clinton supporters here post. I mean for most of them you could literally run a bot program and get better results.

What's fascinating to me is how suddenly all these inactive accounts with 2008 sign-up dates (all of them signed up before June of 2008) have popped up out of the woodwork again. Eight years, with two hundred, three hundred posts? Almost all of them made either around their signup date, or the last two weeks?

Now I'm not going to say those people are being paid, for all I know they're working for good marks on their resumes. But that's pretty clear evidence of "plant" accounts.

[barrow-wight]

41. Alrighty then.

You're a real charmer. LOL

[Scootaloo]

42. Indeed I am, and thanks for noticing! n/t

[Lithos]

7. Let me add a comment here...

Sanders is making two tracks here...

The first is his attempt to win the convention which I think will fail, but the outcome will influence the second point...

The second point is that Sanders is attempting to change the Democratic Party platform... This second piece alone is reason enough for his continued candidacy... Hillary would be a fool to ignore this base, which represents a large part of the activist base which elected Obama...

L-

[oberliner]

9. Good points

Although, choosing Cornel West for that committee was unwise in my opinion.

[Lithos]

19. That is a tactical argument...

Of which I'm not qualified to answer - I'm just talking about the grand tactical approach...

[Tavarious Jackson]

10. Sanders base is not Obama's base

Sanders is the white vote. Hillary's is more diverse. Bernie had a chance to have a huge part but he is going hard negative now.

[imari362]

13. "Hillary's is more diverse"

Should have been...Hillary peddles the bullspit more.
Hillary goes "negative" anytime she need to....I won't be among those who excuse or ignore her and Bill's nastiness towards Obama in '08 and the nasty ways they both handled BLM this cycle, as many Blacks has...she can't peddle me her latest pander for a vote.

P.S. Bernie had a "chance" but it wasn't an equal and fair chance from the start.

[TwilightZone]

17. "Hillary's is more diverse" -- "Should have been...Hillary peddles the bullspit more. "

Is that some bizarre way of saying that her base is more susceptible to bullshit? Or that minorities are?

On the contrary. Her base is considerably more pragmatic and perceptive than his is. Their ability to see through a lot of the nonsense is one of the reasons they're voting for her in the first place.

[imari362]

21. Her base, minorities, her supporters.

Whichever floats ya' boat.

[Lithos]

15. I disagree here

That is a rather simple explanation of Sanders support. The people behind Sanders represent many non-traditional elements which can not be defined in simple racial politics.

I'm not gonna get on a bully pulpit here, but the dynamics behind Sanders have to deal more with a desire for change than with traditional bulwarks of race, or region. The same winds of change which have caused the rise of a non-traditional candidate for the GOP (Trump) also are impacting the Democratic Party. To try and ignore them is to court obsolescence.


L-

[GulfCoast66]

32. Sanders represents

Democrats and independents frustrated that eight years of a Democratic president have gained so little. The flipside of why republicans support Trump. They are pissed that their Congress has been able to do so little to hurt Obama.

The government is divided because the people are and that is extremely frustrating to both sides. Most Bernie supporters would have been pleased had Obama been able to enact multiple moderately liberal laws. But he couldn't and now they are pissed. Ignoring the fact that Republicans ran Congress.

The irony is that we have a chance to control most if not all branches of government. But the pissed off liberals may keep it from happening.

[bvf]

8. Sure thing, Travelious.

[cherokeeprogressive]

12. Posted this at 6:37, deleted the last example of brilliance of 6:38. Good work if you can get it.

Huh.

[QC]

39. You mean the right wing militia hate group post? n/t

[Rex]

16. .

[bobbobbins01]

18. Aren't rules meant to be broken?

After all, the IG report says Hillary broke a whole bunch of them. Do they not apply to her?

[sheshe2]

23. Please don't...

Put this stuff out without links. What when and where did she break the rules.

TIA

[bobbobbins01]

25. Seriously?

You need me to link to the IG report that everyone already knows about. Fine. I'll bite.

Here is the factcheck page that also links to the document itself: http://www.factcheck.org/2016/05/ig-report-on-clintons-emails/

[sheshe2]

28. That shit....

That's all ya got. K~

[bobbobbins01]

29. What more could you possibly want?

It spells out numerous violations.

[SMC22307]

30. Who needs the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania...

when we've got... sheshe! Pffft.

[sheshe2]

31. ...

[bobbobbins01]

33. Gotcha...you're playing games.

I thought you might actually have something to add to the discussion.

[SMC22307]

35. LOL. Yeah, good luck with that.

[sheshe2]

36. ...