2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary surrounds herself with sycophants with a bunker mentality. That is dangerous.
Doesn't matter how smart they are.
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The second thing that becomes clear is that these security experts ran into a brick wall of longtime Clinton aides whose priority was not security, but rather her desire for privacy and convenience. From the earliest days, writes OHarrow Jr., Clinton aides and senior officials focused intently on accommodating the secretarys desire to use her private email account and in so doing neglected repeated warnings about the security of the BlackBerry. In August 2011, when the State Departments executive secretary Stephen Mull broached the idea of replacing Clintons personal Blackberry with a Department issued one, Clintons Deputy Chief of Staff and close personal aide, Huma Abedin, replied that the state blackberry
doesnt make a whole lot of sense.
To longtime Hillary Clinton observers, all this sounds distressingly familiar. In the literature about Clintons career, the insularity of her staff is a recurring theme. In his biography, A Woman in Charge, Carl Bernstein quotes Mark Fabiani, a lawyer in the Clinton White House, as observing that, the kind of people that were around her were yes people. She had never surrounded herself with people who could stand up to her, who were of a different mind. In their biography, Her Way, Jeff Gerth and Don Van Natta Jr. quote Clinton administration Trade Representative Mickey Kantor as noting that in her work on health-care reform, Hillary Clinton got isolated and worked with a group of people, all of whom were off in the same direction. In their book on the health care fight, The System, Haynes Johnson and David Broder quote a senior White House as accusing Hillary Clintons aides of having adopted this bunker mentality
Theyve managed to build wall after wall around the First Lady. In her book about the Clinton marriage, For Love of Politics, Sally Bedell Smith notes that, Her subordinates were all true believers, so she seldom heard a dissenting view. In their book about the 2008 campaign, Game Change, John Heilemann and Mark Halperin note that Clintons aides were loyal to a fault. In their book on Hillarys tenure as Secretary of State, HRC, Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes note that, Loyalty, for better and worse, has been the defining trait of Hillary and her tightly woven inner circle
She values it in herself, demands it in her aides, and often gives it too much weight in judging the people around her. Commenting on Clintons current top campaign staff, the former Politico executive editor Jim Van de Hei observed on Friday that, They are in a bubble where they all have the bunker mentality.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/email-hillary-clinton/484634/
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)BootinUp
(47,197 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)BootinUp
(47,197 posts)and is doing a much better job in this campaign.
cali
(114,904 posts)No. That is what the story is about.
BootinUp
(47,197 posts)find the material compelling in some way, good for you. She will stand on her record, or defend it, and with no shame.
cali
(114,904 posts)Glad to see you backing away from it.
BootinUp
(47,197 posts)The email scandal is going to be a non-scandal very soon. I'll tell you what I think about the scandal. I have noticed that not only has Bernie stayed away from it, Trump's attacks on it are pretty low level. What it says to me is that they don't FEEL the issue like so many others. It goes to the simple fact that problems with record keeping in the state department are legend according to the IG report.
This article attempts to blame her but doesn't say jack about other pols and their sycophants. Strikes me as NOT balanced.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)IOW, she really is a sociopath.
BootinUp
(47,197 posts)based on her philosophies and there is nothing TO be ashamed of. Thanks for playing.
polly7
(20,582 posts)BootinUp
(47,197 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)and the cluster-bombing killing small children ............. stuff like that. Fact, not opinion.
BootinUp
(47,197 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)BootinUp
(47,197 posts)We all await the damning evidence you will surely provide. It will undoubtedly take the form of a known conspiracy kook writing another conspiracy kook article. Maybe... it will be RW conspiracy trash or LW conspiracy trash. Either way, its going to be trash.
polly7
(20,582 posts)hawkish and devastating foreign policy.
Your denial is trash.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)how she manages her office?
If so that could explain a few things.
MattP
(3,304 posts)dchill
(38,546 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)stuff end if ever. Are you going to be here posting this stuff when she is president?
Do you really want Trump in the White House?
It won't be Bernie so you don't want Hillay you must support Trump
cali
(114,904 posts)And that it's absurd to think that the super delegates will abandon her for Bernie. You also know that I've said over and over and fucking over that she's better than trump.
DU Hillary fans don't have enough grace or common sense o be good winners and keep posting shit about Bernie and his supporters. Call me a racist and sexist? I'll keep posting valid if negative stories about Hillary.
And this damn well is a valid story.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Response to cali (Reply #26)
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SFnomad
(3,473 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)I use sources like THE Atlantic. I don't use right wing sources. You really do like making things up.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)using left wing terminology. The link you supplied doesn't use that word AT ALL in the article.
cali
(114,904 posts)It's simply accurate. Bunker mentality which is used in the piece, is hardly more flattering.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)But for now, your actions show you're no better than a right winger and there is little daylight between you and them ... doesn't matter what your words say.
cali
(114,904 posts)Is that the best you can do?
Excuse me while I sneer at your silly sputtering.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Do a Google search on 'Clinton sycophant' and look at what comes up ... you're not in very flattering company.
cali
(114,904 posts)is worthy of nothing but contempt.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Free Republic
Red State
National Review
Breitbart
Conservative Review
Real Cleal Politics
cali
(114,904 posts)but correlation is not causation.
You really aren't very....
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)So I suspect that's "never."
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...I suppose we should get used to not having any valid criticisms of her for the next 8 years. Good grief these people have their heads in the sand...
cali
(114,904 posts)pengu
(462 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Where did that metaphor come from?
Maybe from the NAZIs and history?
Thanks!! you are the best on whatever
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Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)I can't believe the desperation here. Like no one ever used e-mail at work.
cali
(114,904 posts)So is your vocabulary
frylock
(34,825 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)And if we had used private email for company business the way Hillary did we would have been fired for it.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)God knows what to expect from a Clinton administration but it wouldn't be dull.
MFM008
(19,820 posts)Presidential candidates surround themselves with total loyalists, family members and people telling them only good news this is not restricted to HRC say Sanders and Trump are not doing the same.
BootinUp
(47,197 posts)Google his name and Hillary together. He seems to have nothing good to say about her. Probably something to do with his views on Israel.
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)Or off with their heads!
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)beltanefauve
(1,784 posts)comes to mind. And we all know how that turned out.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)at the hands of the Republican attack machine. That tendency may have always been there but it became entrenched because of it. Hillary says she wears the scars of constant Republican attacks against her with pride, and I can understand her having that sentiment. But it doesn't hide the fact that we all now are paying a steep price because of it.