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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:00 PM May 2016

CBS: Clinton MisStates Key facts in Email Server Case

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-misstates-key-facts-in-email-server-case/

ST. LOUIS -- Over the months, Hillary Clinton misstated key facts about her use of private email and her own server for her work as secretary of state, the department's inspector general reported this week.

According to the findings, she claimed approval she didn't have and declined to be interviewed for the report despite saying "I'm more than ready to talk to anybody anytime." Scrutiny of her unusual email practices appeared to be unwelcome, despite her contention those practices were well known and "fully above board."

A look at some of Clinton's past claims about her unusual email set-up and how they compare with the inspector general's findings:

CLINTON: "The system we used was set up for President Clinton's office. And it had numerous safeguards. It was on property guarded by the Secret Service. And there were no security breaches." - March 2015 press conference.
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THE REPORT: Evidence emerged of hacking attempts, though it's unclear whether they were successful.

On Jan. 9, 2011, an adviser to former President Bill Clinton notified the State Department's deputy chief of staff for operations that he had to shut down the server because he suspected "someone was trying to hack us and while they did not get in i didnt (sic) want to let them have the chance to."

Later that day, he sent another note. "We were attacked again so I shut (the server) down for a few min."

The following day the deputy chief emailed top Clinton aides and instructed them not to email the secretary "anything sensitive."

Also in May 2011, Clinton told aides that someone was "hacking into her email," after she received a message with a suspicious link, the new audit report said.

The Associated Press has previously reported that, according to detailed records compiled in 2012, Clinton's server was connected to the internet in ways that made it more vulnerable to hackers. It appeared to allow users to connect openly over the internet to control it remotely.

Moreover, it's unclear what protection her email system might have achieved from having the Secret Service guard the property. Digital security breaches tend to come from computer networks, not over a fence.

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CLINTON: "What I did was allowed. It was allowed by the State Department. The State Department has confirmed that." - AP interview, September.

THE REPORT: "No evidence" that Clinton asked for or received approval to conduct official government business on a personal email account run through a private server in her New York home. According to top State Department officials interviewed for the investigation, the departments that oversee security "did not - and would not - approve" her use of a personal account because of security concerns.

Clinton has changed her account since the report came out. On Thursday, she told CNN "I thought it was allowed. I knew past secretaries of state used personal email."

Colin Powell was the only secretary of state who used personal email for work, but not to the extent she did, and he did not use a private server.

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CLINTON: "It was fully above board. Everybody in the government with whom I emailed knew that I was using a personal email." - AP interview, September.
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CLINTON: "The people in the government knew that I was using a personal account . the people I was emailing to on the dot gov system certainly knew and they would respond to me on my personal email." - NBC News interview, September.

THE REPORT: According to the findings, it's unclear how widespread knowledge was about Clinton's use of a personal account. Though Clinton's use of a private email was discussed with some in her agency, senior department officials who worked for her, including the undersecretary responsible for security, said they were not asked to approve or review the use of her private server.

The officials also said they were "unaware of the scope or extent" of her email practices, even though Clinton exchanged hundreds of thousands of messages with people in government from her personal account.

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CLINTON: "In the fall, I think it was October of last year (2014), the State Department sent a letter to previous secretaries of state asking for help with their record-keeping, in part because of the technical problems that they knew they had to deal with. And they asked that we, all of us, go through our e-mails to determine what was work-related and to provide that for them." - NBC News, September.

THE REPORT: While it's true that the State Department requested records from former secretaries of state in November 2014, the report says the department raised concerns about Clinton's compliance with federal record-keeping laws years earlier, and the attention did not appear welcome.

Two employees in the Office of Information Resources Management discussed concerns about her use of a personal email account in separate 2010 meetings. One of the employees stressed in one of the meetings that the information being transmitted needed to be preserved to satisfy federal records laws.

They were instructed by the director of the department "never to speak of the Secretary's personal email system again," according to the report.

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CLINTON: "I think last August I made it clear I'm more than ready to talk to anybody anytime. - CBS News interview in May.

THE REPORT: Clinton declined through her lawyer to be interviewed for the report. Four other secretaries of state participated: John Kerry, Madeleine Albright, Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell. She now says: "everything I had to say was out there."

But she has said she will speak to the FBI as part of a separate criminal investigation into possible security breaches related to her private server.
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CBS: Clinton MisStates Key facts in Email Server Case (Original Post) amborin May 2016 OP
Words should mean something to journalists. She didn't misstate, she lied. BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #1
the press needs to do its job, too grasswire May 2016 #13
Bingo! You nailed it Carolina May 2016 #23
While I am bothered by the lies tymorial May 2016 #2
She's not the type of politician to tolerate insubordination... Yurovsky May 2016 #3
or perhaps someone will turn state's evidence. grasswire May 2016 #14
Was he the one getting his legal fees taken care of? Babel_17 May 2016 #43
What kind of boss demands silence of their employees? senz May 2016 #8
Republican bosses, in my personal experience. Zen Democrat May 2016 #10
The Capo di tutt'i capi Fairgo May 2016 #36
spells conspiracy... Merryland May 2016 #26
Well the cover-up wouldn't work if do-gooders and whistle-blowers went and vintx May 2016 #32
And the wall comes tumbling down Meteor Man May 2016 #4
Bernie has most of the new registrations that are not polled hootinholler May 2016 #12
Her supporters will continue to deny reality and simply regurgitate Press Virginia May 2016 #5
"misstates" Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #6
It's like she can't remember what she says from one moment to the next. senz May 2016 #7
tangled web grasswire May 2016 #15
In some ways, it's sad. nt senz May 2016 #20
It is sad. grasswire May 2016 #21
I'll bet the substitution folks are considering the options senz May 2016 #28
Quelle surprise Kall May 2016 #9
'Sometimes I wish I could stop you from talking when I hear the silly things that you say.' yourpaljoey May 2016 #11
Great song. senz May 2016 #17
Indeed yourpaljoey May 2016 #24
There's no valid explanation XemaSab May 2016 #16
In a spirit of kindness, one could say "confused" senz May 2016 #18
We already had one senile president XemaSab May 2016 #19
In my lifetime, one senile and one incompetent senz May 2016 #22
Well, she ain't lazy.... yourpaljoey May 2016 #27
Carrying two blackberries is such a hassle! XemaSab May 2016 #29
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #25
"It was on property guarded by the Secret Service. " dragonfly301 May 2016 #30
maybe they think hacking is like with an axe grasswire May 2016 #31
I don't think for one second that she's that stupid. But she thinks voters are vintx May 2016 #33
She's a LIAR. Proven time and time again... AzDar May 2016 #34
CBS needs to thank DUer Paul Thompson Octafish May 2016 #35
+ a million vintx May 2016 #37
Octa, he has been silenced grasswire May 2016 #44
From the IT fella, "We were attacked AGAIN..." Fairgo May 2016 #38
He wasn't even an IT fella grasswire May 2016 #45
kick Logical May 2016 #39
K & R Joob May 2016 #40
"Misstates" LOL. tabasco May 2016 #41
It is a fancy work for lied! :-) Logical May 2016 #46
This is on the record now, it's part of history Babel_17 May 2016 #42
K&R. I've had it with mealy-mouthed lies. nt Bonobo May 2016 #47
Mistatements or calculated cover up? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author MadDAsHell May 2016 #49
"Misstated." That's rich. MadDAsHell May 2016 #50
The whole thing stinks, but this really galls me: CrispyQ May 2016 #51
K & R! Cobalt Violet May 2016 #52

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
1. Words should mean something to journalists. She didn't misstate, she lied.
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:06 PM
May 2016

Misstating something is an unintentional mistake, as in calling somebody by the wrong name. Hillary claiming the State Department approved her using a private email server for her email correspondence as Secretary of State is a bald faced lie. She was challenged on who gave her the approval in one of the debates and she said she didn't have to ask for approval.

The FBI needs to do its job and indict this lying crook to spare the country a female Richard Nixon in the White House.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
13. the press needs to do its job, too
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:38 PM
May 2016

They are tip toeing around the truth.

And even many members of DU are ill informed, because the truth about HRC's actions and the resulting investigations is being censored here. FACTS are being censored.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
23. Bingo! You nailed it
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:59 PM
May 2016

Her slimy corruption is absolutely Nixonian. This is especially so because the likely reason for a private server in her home was to use her position as SoS to conduct shady deals for the Clinton Slush Fund (aka Foundation) and pad her pockets for this POTUS bid all the while avoiding scrutiny and FOIA queries

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
2. While I am bothered by the lies
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:08 PM
May 2016

I am outraged at the implicit threat in this statement:

"They were instructed by the director of the department "never to speak of the Secretary's personal email system again," according to the report. "

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
3. She's not the type of politician to tolerate insubordination...
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:14 PM
May 2016

if she told you to keep your mouth shut regarding the secret, off-the-radar-screen server, you better keep your mouth shut. Or else...

Hopefully a brave American will step forward and expose the Clinton shenanigans so that the FBI can determine whether they should recommend indictments to DOJ officials.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
43. Was he the one getting his legal fees taken care of?
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:53 PM
May 2016

Lol, on my honor, I just now googled "Bill's personal aide" without the quotes and the second hit is pretty funny. I won't link it, but here's the relevant quote.

"Columnist Monica Crowley reported that the Clintons are now paying Cooper’s legal bills."


http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/29/report-clintons-are-paying-legal-bills-for-aide-who-registered-private-email-address/

Not a fan of Crowley because of her being too dependent on being an insider, but, yes, she does have inside sources.

Even funnier result googling "Justin Cooper Bill Clinton legal bills" but I had to scroll down a bit.

(It was the ninth one on my search page, YMMV)
 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
32. Well the cover-up wouldn't work if do-gooders and whistle-blowers went and
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:33 PM
May 2016

tried to do the right thing

Meteor Man

(385 posts)
4. And the wall comes tumbling down
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:16 PM
May 2016

Sanders is already polling within 2% of Hillary in California. It's neck and neck and Bernie has The Big Mo on his side.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
15. tangled web
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

She's been at this for decades. I don't know how she keeps them straight.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
21. It is sad.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016

We almost have to protect her from herself while we protect ourselves from her greed and deceit.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
28. I'll bet the substitution folks are considering the options
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:12 PM
May 2016

We've seen signals that it could be Biden, could be EW ...

It's a pity that they fear Bernie so much. How on earth would it hurt the country to have better basic living conditions and greater fairness for the citizens? I wish I could give them the courage to stand up to the fat cats. Courage that Bernie has shown his entire life.

yourpaljoey

(2,166 posts)
11. 'Sometimes I wish I could stop you from talking when I hear the silly things that you say.'
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:42 PM
May 2016

That line seems to fit here, quite well actually.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
22. In my lifetime, one senile and one incompetent
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

In both cases, unelected people took over. Reagan was pretty much floated through his presidency by close aides and Nancy, and Dim Son had Cheney.

I read about Hill's closest aides at the State Dept. emailing one another about her confused responses.

Why is this happening? Doesn't the DNC care? Is their establishment fear of Bernie, of basic fairness for the American people, so powerful that they would let this happen?

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
29. Carrying two blackberries is such a hassle!
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:12 PM
May 2016

God forbid she should ditch the hot sauce and make room in her bag for another blackberry!

dragonfly301

(399 posts)
30. "It was on property guarded by the Secret Service. "
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:14 PM
May 2016

This made me lol - can someone please explain to Hillary what hacking is and that the Secret Service being physically present is not going to stop it. I just don't see how she gets security clearance after this.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
33. I don't think for one second that she's that stupid. But she thinks voters are
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:35 PM
May 2016

She just doesn't give a fuck. Sheer hubris.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
38. From the IT fella, "We were attacked AGAIN..."
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:37 PM
May 2016

When you see 1 cockroach you know there are hundreds you don't see
When you see two hacks...

Response to amborin (Original post)

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
50. "Misstated." That's rich.
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:03 AM
May 2016

When in light of new evidence that trickles out over a year's time you are given a multitude of opportunities to clarify your statements and you choose to stick to your guns, that isn't "misstating."

That's L-Y-I-N-G.

CrispyQ

(36,527 posts)
51. The whole thing stinks, but this really galls me:
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:08 AM
May 2016
They were instructed by the director of the department "never to speak of the Secretary's personal email system again," according to the report.




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