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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:07 PM May 2016

Hillary Clinton's campaign just released the worst Venn diagram of all time

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/20/11721368/hillary-clinton-guns-venn-diagram

Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign just committed what can only be described as a data catastrophe.

The campaign, in promoting its gun policy agenda, sent out this tweet:




The general point is true: The great majority of Americans do support universal background checks, including the great majority of gun owners.

But this is simply not how Venn diagrams work. The circles are completely wrong. They should, for one, overlap entirely, since the gun owners referenced in this are all Americans. And the circle for Americans should be much, much bigger than the circle for gun owners, since gun owners make up just one segment of the US population. (That is, unless, the Clinton campaign is literally saying that a lot of gun owners are un-American, which is a very, very hot take for a risk-averse campaign.)


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Hillary Clinton's campaign just released the worst Venn diagram of all time (Original Post) KamaAina May 2016 OP
That is really bizarre. Who thought that up? BillZBubb May 2016 #1
Some intern bvf May 2016 #18
Levels of consciousness do show themselves. Face plant. highprincipleswork May 2016 #2
reminds me of this AtomicKitten May 2016 #25
Well I doubt that Brock did all that well in math. And his association with Ann Coulter probably truedelphi May 2016 #3
Hey, does Brock still employ armed bodyguards? In D.C.? Eleanors38 May 2016 #12
That's what you get with unpaid interns. n/t spinbaby May 2016 #4
She probably borrowed a couple Brock trolls to draw that up. HooptieWagon May 2016 #5
And they prance around, talking down to us like they're a bunch of math wizards.... hellofromreddit May 2016 #6
Dunning-Kruger has been on my mind alot recently Fairgo May 2016 #9
I get what they are saying. Hope Sanders gets his support of gun manufacturers doesn't help. Hoyt May 2016 #7
Reminds me of a Fox News graph n/t arcane1 May 2016 #8
Hey - I mentioned you in another post Joanie Baloney May 2016 #10
All lizard reptilians felix_numinous May 2016 #11
Wow. This is Daliesque in its surreal distortion. Beats what is usually dumped in the Gungeon. Eleanors38 May 2016 #13
LOL tk2kewl May 2016 #14
That will earn a place in the Museum of Bad Venn Diagrams AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #15
Hee hee! bvf May 2016 #19
oh hai look what I found AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #20
moar AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #21
Math! Octafish May 2016 #16
The NRA's shilling for Bernie is a rating of D- libdem4life May 2016 #17
Let's see YOU draw up a Venn diagram under sniper fire! Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #22
LOL! Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #29
Bad math appears to be growing exponentially (nt) Nye Bevan May 2016 #23
And this is from the people who have been telling us to hootinholler May 2016 #24
Why the constant spew of Hillary hate pieces published here? scscholar May 2016 #26
I think a certain scholar needs to go back to school. BillZBubb May 2016 #27
Why the constant spew of Bernie hate pieces published here? KamaAina May 2016 #28
Never seen one scscholar May 2016 #30
You must not be looking very hard KamaAina May 2016 #31
here's another one... tk2kewl May 2016 #32
More Hill-logic, but who cares, this campaign apealls to emotion, not rationality, logic, or truth jack_krass May 2016 #33
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
18. Some intern
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:34 PM
May 2016

with barely passable PowerPoint skills, who washed out well before elementary logic.

And about as motivated as you'd expect a Clinton volunteer to be, which is to say, minimally.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
3. Well I doubt that Brock did all that well in math. And his association with Ann Coulter probably
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:11 PM
May 2016

Did not improve his math or logic skills,.

But in comparison with the money spent by Brock to have staffers install child porn on Sanders' supporters' Facebook pages, the diagram is just amusingly wrong

I mean, the diagram certainly is not a felony, as installing child porn on an internet website happens to be!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
5. She probably borrowed a couple Brock trolls to draw that up.
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:12 PM
May 2016

We've already observed they're not exactly the best and the brightest.

 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
6. And they prance around, talking down to us like they're a bunch of math wizards....
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:14 PM
May 2016

Dunning-Kruger is in effect.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
9. Dunning-Kruger has been on my mind alot recently
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:20 PM
May 2016

Lots of very confident sock puppets pontificating from a school of ignorance, poorly.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. I get what they are saying. Hope Sanders gets his support of gun manufacturers doesn't help.
Fri May 20, 2016, 06:14 PM
May 2016

I think the campaign is trying to explain to people -- who don't understand math, like in delegate counts -- that both Trump and Sanders should rethink their position on gunz (admittedly, Sanders is not as bad as Trump).

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
15. That will earn a place in the Museum of Bad Venn Diagrams
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:25 PM
May 2016

kinda surprised she didn't use this one though:

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
17. The NRA's shilling for Bernie is a rating of D-
Fri May 20, 2016, 07:31 PM
May 2016

when to hear certain groups talk, it would be at least a B. D- tends to shut them up. Pass it on.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
26. Why the constant spew of Hillary hate pieces published here?
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:49 PM
May 2016

It's not a Venn diagram. Don't claim it is then claim it is wrong. That's a strawman argument.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
27. I think a certain scholar needs to go back to school.
Fri May 20, 2016, 08:54 PM
May 2016

It is drawn like a Venn diagram, so most people seeing it would try to figure it out based on that. It's a stupid attempt to get a message out.

Telling the truth about Hillary isn't hate.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
32. here's another one...
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:46 AM
May 2016

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