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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:22 PM May 2016

Why Did Votes ‘Disappear’ in the Kentucky Primary? Possible Recount

Bernie Sanders supporters noticed votes mysteriously disappearing during the Kentucky primary on Tuesday. The Kentucky primary was so close that the delegates will be split evenly between Sanders and Hillary Clinton, with each getting 27 delegates apiece, according to AP. But Sanders is considering asking for a recount, while others are pointing out suspicious things that happened during the primary itself. Did election fraud happen during the primary or was everything merely the result of glitches and technical errors? Meanwhile, Democratic candidate Roque De La Fuente has noticed the same thing happening with his votes in different states.


Here’s what you need to know.

1. Sanders Said He’s Considering a Recount in Kentucky

2. Sanders Somehow Lost 2,000 to 5,000 Votes in Kentucky During the Primary

3. Votes in Pike County Disappeared

4. Roque De La Fuente, a Democratic Presidential Candidate, Shared Screenshots as He Mysteriously Lost Votes in Other States

5. A Similar Problem Was Also Reported in Marion County, Oregon, Where Clinton Gained 11,000 Votes



http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/votes-disappear-kentucky-primary-reassigned-fraud-what-happened-bernie-sanders-roque-de-la-fuente/amp/

Bernie needs to request a recount. It won't change the delegate count much but we need to see what's going on once and for all.

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Why Did Votes ‘Disappear’ in the Kentucky Primary? Possible Recount (Original Post) NWCorona May 2016 OP
Who has standing to ask for a recount in these instances? Blue Meany May 2016 #1
I do wonder if the vote tallies are subject to the open records act or something similar NWCorona May 2016 #3
I'm surprised it isn't automatic with less than 1% difference HereSince1628 May 2016 #4
Pike County=Coal Country!!Always Reliably GOP. Any "stolen" votes would have been for Hillary. tonyt53 May 2016 #2
There was over 8k Democratic votes cast in Pike NWCorona May 2016 #5
The proof would show in a recount, if there is any proof. RichVRichV May 2016 #6
A recount should be performed regardless of who is benefits, to gain a sense of legitimacy. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author FlatBaroque May 2016 #7
Could you imagine how bad it would have looked if Hillary lost Kentucky after she went all in? NWCorona May 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author FlatBaroque May 2016 #12
Doesn't matter. It would probably be after CA before we knew the results of any recount. thesquanderer May 2016 #16
The truth does matter. Other than that you are pretty much right unfortunately NWCorona May 2016 #18
The numbers we see are so corrupt, they are meaningless. We need vote recounts in several states. reformist2 May 2016 #8
Regarding #5, was that the one county Hillary won by one vote reported the other day? (eom) Samantha May 2016 #10
I was wondering the same thing. NWCorona May 2016 #11
I looked it up -- see below Samantha May 2016 #20
Odd how every election Bernie lost was a stolen or rigged on Ohioblue22 May 2016 #14
Not true at all. NWCorona May 2016 #15
K & R AzDar May 2016 #17
Another Conspiracy theory? President Obama was right,,,, CajunBlazer May 2016 #19
 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
1. Who has standing to ask for a recount in these instances?
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:33 PM
May 2016

It it only the candidates? It seems like the voters should have the right to see if their vote was counted.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
3. I do wonder if the vote tallies are subject to the open records act or something similar
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:38 PM
May 2016

Regardless we would definitely get faster results if it's Bernie that requests it.

On that point. From what I've read Pike County is required by law to do a hand count because the the count was reset during the count was still going or something like that.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
4. I'm surprised it isn't automatic with less than 1% difference
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:40 PM
May 2016

between candidates.

Unfortunately, this is the Dem establishment's show and admitting such things deserve close and careful consideration isn't likely

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
2. Pike County=Coal Country!!Always Reliably GOP. Any "stolen" votes would have been for Hillary.
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:33 PM
May 2016

There aren't 4000 Democrats in Pike County, KY. Roque received less than one half of one percent in KY. Yeah, somebody stole his votes alright. What proof do you or Bernie have of any stolen votes in KY? Let's see that proof.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
6. The proof would show in a recount, if there is any proof.
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:45 PM
May 2016

A candidate has a right to ask for a recount, especially in close races. Sometimes recounts come from court orders. It's been common practice in Democracy since it's inception.


Since you claim the Democratic vote totals in the county should be low, it shouldn't take long to recount it even if by hand. Even if it shows the original count was exactly right it's still worth recounting a questionable county to prove that Democracy is working correctly in an un-corrupted manner.


We should do automatic mandatory random recounts in parts of every state after every election. Assuring the accuracy of the vote is a core part of Democracy and money well spent, IMO. This has nothing to do with any particular candidate.

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thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
16. Doesn't matter. It would probably be after CA before we knew the results of any recount.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:18 PM
May 2016

No one will care about whether or not she actually won KY at that point.

And any delegate shift would be minimal.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
20. I looked it up -- see below
Sat May 21, 2016, 01:03 AM
May 2016
As early-morning vote tallies roll in, results of Oregon's Democratic presidential primary paint a sobering picture for national Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton -- she won just one Oregon county, and won it by just one vote.

The tally from Gilliam County: Bernie Sanders 100, Clinton 101.


http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/05/hillary_clinton_won_just_1_ore.html

Sam

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
19. Another Conspiracy theory? President Obama was right,,,,
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:35 PM
May 2016

....after a while when they are not successful time and time again in pushing their ultra pure ideology, their lack of success leads them to believe that everyone is against them. After all it couldn't be their fault that they keep losing.

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