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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:53 PM May 2016

Establishment's anti-Bernie Sanders 'violence' smear is attempt to silence dissent

The Democratic establishment's anti-Bernie Sanders 'violence' smear is a dishonest attempt to silence legitimate dissent
MICHAEL TRACEY
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Friday, May 20, 2016, 1:18 PM

Now Sanders stands accused by senior members of Democratic Party leadership, with support from the Democratic-leaning commentariat, of somehow enabling or encouraging a coordinated campaign of harrassment and intimidation. Chastened by perceived procedural wrongdoing at the Nevada convention, Sanders delegates registered their discontent by doing things such as booing, jeering and shouting — pretty standard fare in terms of public political displays.

Somehow this run-of-the-mill discord morphed into wanton “violence,” as Harry Reid, the Senate minority leader and kingpin of Nevada politics, later described it. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the former Hillary surrogate who now runs the Democratic National Committee, echoed these allegations and ridiculed Sanders for refusing to condemn his own supporters.

Despite several days’ worth of news cycles premised on the occurrence of violence, no evidence for this has yet been produced. No one has come forward to claim that physical harm was inflicted upon them by rabid Sanders backers, nor has law enforcement brought charges, as would be expected if such mayhem had truly transpired. NPR’s ombudsman, Elizabeth Jensen, determined earlier reports of violence from the outlet to be “misleading.”

By framing routine political dissension in terms of “harassment” and “safety,” Democratic officials and allied pundits are now importing the rhetoric of therapeutic psychology currently in vogue within academic liberalism into the presidential campaign arena. It’s one thing when “safe space” nomenclature is deployed on behalf of the marginalized and outcast.

But when it’s used to insulate a powerful U.S. senator from criticism, something has gone awry.

Yep.




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Establishment's anti-Bernie Sanders 'violence' smear is attempt to silence dissent (Original Post) portlander23 May 2016 OP
That hors...errr donkey left the barn for daylight about 1-2 months after nc4bo May 2016 #1
NPR's ombudsman should get in touch with the host of Morning Edition BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #8
I guess when sanders says revolution...that it's a sanitized version? beachbumbob May 2016 #2
Reap the fucking whirlwind frylock May 2016 #23
If it is in the opinion the establshment smear is an attempt tp silence dissent, then it must be an Thinkingabout May 2016 #3
The anger in Vegas kaleckim May 2016 #28
No, the anger may have been fueled by alchol, not the process. The rules was plain, Thinkingabout May 2016 #30
People were drinking at 10 a.m. Fawke Em May 2016 #31
Well, when there is too much comotion for a vocal vote to be taken liberalnarb May 2016 #33
orchestrating a disruption in an attempt to steal delegates isn't dissent bigtree May 2016 #4
Exactly. ucrdem May 2016 #10
Boy do you have things turned around. Delegates were stolen away from Bernie. cui bono May 2016 #12
Yes, all this whining because they were bagged and got pissed about it Dem2 May 2016 #14
it's a pattern of behavior bigtree May 2016 #21
Real dirty workinclasszero May 2016 #15
Well if it weren't for the brilliant delegate system this whole cluster fuck wouldnt have happened liberalnarb May 2016 #34
The only people orchestrating a disruption are the Clintonites. frylock May 2016 #24
I think you mean Clinton is going to lose in California. Fawke Em May 2016 #32
Yes, it was poorly worded. frylock May 2016 #37
Next time maybe the Sanders fans will be adults and not put on violent desplay for the world to riversedge May 2016 #5
There was no violence, completely made up. Quixote1818 May 2016 #9
And you just made up your post. riversedge May 2016 #17
You mean this? cannabis_flower May 2016 #27
What violent display? Did you see something? Can you post the video? cui bono May 2016 #16
It's good that you're here to correct the record. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #19
Corrupt the Record is more like it. Fawke Em May 2016 #36
Maybe you can act like an adult and show us all that you know how to read. frylock May 2016 #25
You're lying kaleckim May 2016 #29
Thanks for posting. SamKnause May 2016 #6
Any article about Nevada that doesn't include the words "death threat" and "b*tch" is propaganda, YouDig May 2016 #7
It's like the Gollum Party. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #11
They're just "Breaking Barriers", right? arcane1 May 2016 #13
they thought it'd be a knockout blow--that Sandernistas are violent Know-Nothings MisterP May 2016 #18
They were wrong again. RoccoR5955 May 2016 #20
How'd that sniper fire in Bosnia work out for her? Crying (lying) wolf fail. AtomicKitten May 2016 #22
There was a fracas in there, the news picked up on it. Remember what happened The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #26
Yeah, keep telling yourself that... Blue_Tires May 2016 #35
Manufacturing Consent, baby! QC May 2016 #38

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
1. That hors...errr donkey left the barn for daylight about 1-2 months after
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016

SANDERS announced his campaign run.


It's not going back in that dark barn any time soon.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
8. NPR's ombudsman should get in touch with the host of Morning Edition
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:04 PM
May 2016

On Thursday morning, one of the NPR Morning Edition hosts referred to the aftermath of the Nevada convention as a "melee" and said that "chairs were flying."

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. I guess when sanders says revolution...that it's a sanitized version?
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

Does his supporters understand?....don't think so...as the plans of 10's of thousands in philly to take to the streets...WTO riot style...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. If it is in the opinion the establshment smear is an attempt tp silence dissent, then it must be an
Fri May 20, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

Attempt by the dissenters to silence the majority. Now does it seem reasonable the minority rules the majority and the oligarchy Sanders so often complains is trying to force their will on the majority, won't happen, the majority will continue to rule.

kaleckim

(651 posts)
28. The anger in Vegas
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:02 PM
May 2016

was over the damn process, how it was handled, and you know it. My god, I haven't seen one post from your that didn't involve manipulating objective reality.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
30. No, the anger may have been fueled by alchol, not the process. The rules was plain,
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:16 PM
May 2016

To overturn a rule there needed to be a 2/3 % of the vote. One hundred angry people does not make the rules. BTW, your posts have lacked truthful information about the rules.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
31. People were drinking at 10 a.m.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:25 PM
May 2016


I somehow doubt that.

That said: You're wrong. The anger was over the DNC establishment's attempt to change the rules and not recognizing Sanders' supporters were were both objecting and attempting to follow these stupid new rules to present platform changes.
 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
33. Well, when there is too much comotion for a vocal vote to be taken
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:28 PM
May 2016

the rules state that a vote of standing division is to be conducted. There was no vote of standing division.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
12. Boy do you have things turned around. Delegates were stolen away from Bernie.
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:14 PM
May 2016

And that is dirty politics.

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Dem2

(8,168 posts)
14. Yes, all this whining because they were bagged and got pissed about it
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:14 PM
May 2016

... It's not helping at all.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
21. it's a pattern of behavior
Fri May 20, 2016, 03:17 PM
May 2016

...admit to nothing when caught red-handed and blame Democrats; like when they got caught stealing voter data and, instead of owning up, sued the DNC, raising money off of the DNC's response to their stealing.

Fundraising email claiming they're the victims of something in Nevada are as good as posted.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
15. Real dirty
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:15 PM
May 2016

But stealing Hillary delegates appointed by the voters of Nevada is approved by the revolution!

They must kill democracy to save democracy because......reasons, sparrows, dumb Nevadans voted the wrong way?

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
34. Well if it weren't for the brilliant delegate system this whole cluster fuck wouldnt have happened
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:30 PM
May 2016

in the first place.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
24. The only people orchestrating a disruption are the Clintonites.
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016

Barbie Boxer went their to troll Sanders supporters hoping they would react in order to effect the primary in California. It isn't going to work, and she is going to lose here. And, boy, are the optics going to be terrible.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
37. Yes, it was poorly worded.
Fri May 20, 2016, 05:54 PM
May 2016

And good riddance to Boxer. Her actions make me sad that I ever voted for her.

riversedge

(70,245 posts)
5. Next time maybe the Sanders fans will be adults and not put on violent desplay for the world to
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:01 PM
May 2016

see and hear.

Quixote1818

(28,947 posts)
9. There was no violence, completely made up.
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:06 PM
May 2016

Or maybe you mean the guy who lifted a chair and then got stopped and hugged a bunch of times. Those violent hugging Sanders supporters. But it was fine for Hillary to come out and say Obama could get assassinated and allow her one more shot at being President. That was real classy.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
16. What violent display? Did you see something? Can you post the video?
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:16 PM
May 2016

I doubt it since there was none. So why are you catapulting the propaganda, the smear?

Does that make you feel good about yourself? Is that your attempt to get Bernie supporters to vote for Hillary if necessary?

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frylock

(34,825 posts)
25. Maybe you can act like an adult and show us all that you know how to read.
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:13 PM
May 2016

Continuing to claim there was violence in an OP showing that there wasn't calls into question your credibility and/or intelligence.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
7. Any article about Nevada that doesn't include the words "death threat" and "b*tch" is propaganda,
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:02 PM
May 2016

intended to whitewash the behavior of the Sanders delegation. Violent behavior was reported by witnesses, it would be dishonest to ignore it just because the Sanders people claim it didn't happen.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
13. They're just "Breaking Barriers", right?
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:14 PM
May 2016

Correct The Record will invest more than $1 million into Barrier Breakers 2016 activities, including the more than tripling of its digital operation to engage in online messaging both for Secretary Clinton and to push back against attackers on social media platforms like Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, and Instagram. Barrier Breakers 2016 is a project of Correct The Record and the brainchild of David Brock, and the task force will be overseen by President of Correct The Record Brad Woodhouse and Digital Director Benjamin Fischbein. The task force staff’s backgrounds are as diverse as the community they will be engaging with and include former reporters, bloggers, public affairs specialists, designers, Ready for Hillary alumni, and Hillary super fans who have led groups similar to those with which the task force will organize.

The task force currently combats online political harassment, having already addressed more than 5,000 individuals who have personally attacked Secretary Clinton on Twitter. The task force will provide a presence and space online where Clinton supporters can organize and engage with one another and are able to obtain graphics, videos, gifs, and messaging to use in their own social spaces. Additionally, the Barrier Breakers 2016 task force hopes to embrace the creativity of Hillary Clinton’s supporters by sharing their efforts and content with other groups.

http://correctrecord.org/barrier-breakers-2016-a-project-of-correct-the-record/

Trolls gotta troll!



MisterP

(23,730 posts)
18. they thought it'd be a knockout blow--that Sandernistas are violent Know-Nothings
Fri May 20, 2016, 02:31 PM
May 2016
undermining the party in the fight against Trump; this'd make him lose KY big and clinch the Midwest, his funding would look like it was faltering and she could hold off a little on the billionaire-courting (clogs up surface traffic, ya know), the primary would polls bounce downwards off the 50% line, his momentum carrying him downward now instead of upward, and then onwards to win CA again
 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
26. There was a fracas in there, the news picked up on it. Remember what happened
Fri May 20, 2016, 04:19 PM
May 2016

to Howard Dean? One single solitary war whoop and he was finished. That's the way these things go.

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