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Fri May 20, 2016, 11:15 AM May 2016

DKos: The problem isn't (just) Bernie Sanders' supporters. It's Bernie Sanders himself

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Markos Moulitsas ?@markos 49m49 minutes ago
The problem isn't Bernie Sanders' supporters. It's Bernie Sanders himself


Shit got all crazy in Nevada. Some people threw chairs (or maybe they just waved them in the air), others sent threatening misogynistic and terroristic voicemails and texts to the head of the Nevada Democratic Party.

Here’s the thing. Even though these were supporters of Bernie Sanders, I don’t consider them in any way representative of Bernie Sanders’ supporters. Politics is full of cranks. I used to do a Sunday feature of all the hate email I got until Twitter made that obsolete. Now I get them on Twitter. All sorts of hateful messages. The Secret Service is tasked in large part with following up with people making threats against the president. This is politics and people get mad and do really stupid shit.

I don’t think that has anything to do with “Bernie Sanders’ supporters.” They are a problem, but they aren’t the problem. Make sense?

The problem is Bernie Sanders himself, who as a leader refuses to forcefully and unambiguously reject that violence, instead rationalizing and explaining it away with a mix of grievances and outright conspiracy theory. The same guy who once said, “Mr. Trump should take responsibility for addressing his supporters’ violent actions,” now can’t be bothered to do the same when it’s a few rotten apples in his crowd acting insane...

...here is Bernie Sanders doubling down on his destructive approach, still refusing to call out the few bad apples, and vowing a scorched-earth campaign to the convention. Because maybe then the superdelegates will see the wisdom of overturning the democratic will of the voters in favor of the toddler stomping his feet and throwing a tantrum? What the hell?


read more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/20/1528657/-The-problem-isn-t-Bernie-Sanders-supporters-It-s-Bernie-Sanders-himself
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DKos: The problem isn't (just) Bernie Sanders' supporters. It's Bernie Sanders himself (Original Post) bigtree May 2016 OP
Bernie is throwing a temper tantrum. tonyt53 May 2016 #1
Still haven't heard Clinton telling her supporters to not beat up women in hotels Scootaloo May 2016 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #3
egads! bigtree May 2016 #8
He certainly doesn't do anything to discourage that behavior. CrowCityDem May 2016 #4
He condemns any and all violence in connection with his campaign. Vattel May 2016 #5
Lamely. His statement of Nevada was lip-service and changing the subject. apnu May 2016 #7
This time was one sentence, with a but attached, in the middle of eight paragraphs of complaints. CrowCityDem May 2016 #9
What violence? GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 #6
Still making shit up and these people want us to give them money? JRLeft May 2016 #10
Yes, I'm sick of people giving Bernie a pass. MoonRiver May 2016 #11

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CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
9. This time was one sentence, with a but attached, in the middle of eight paragraphs of complaints.
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:49 AM
May 2016

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
11. Yes, I'm sick of people giving Bernie a pass.
Fri May 20, 2016, 11:56 AM
May 2016

Supporters take their cues from the candidate, and Bernie comes across as angry and bitter. No wonder we are seeing his people rioting!

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