I know we are in the final frenzied stages of a passionate primary campaign, but

[Fast Walker 52]

can everyone please calm down?

Hillary is not the devil. She's a standard centrist Democrat. She even has a number of positive attributes.

Please stop acting outraged about Hillary's emails and rooting for the FBI investigation.

Bernie has been a great Democrat and has revitalized the roots of the party.

Don't let a few passionate, overly zealous supporters and the media define what Bernie's campaign is about.

Ultimately what happened in Nevada is not going to change the outcome of the primary.

Both Bernie and Hillary have run really good campaigns. Neither have really gone particularly negative on each other-- certainly not as much as they could have.

The primary is not yet over but chances are high that Hillary will be the nominee.

Bernie has earned a seat at the Dem table should be allowed to influence the party platform.

The Dem party will come together at the convention.

Trump is the freaking enemy, and would be an outright disaster for the WORLD, not just the US.

In terms of basic human rights (for women, minority, LGBTQ, elderly) and the environment (clean water, clean air, climate change) both Sanders or Hillary will strongly defend them.

The GOP will not.

Let's take the opportunity of a Trump candidacy to rout the GOP, as they deserve so badly.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

1. Tell that to the Hillary Supporters...

They are the ones flinging the most mean spirited hateful attacks against Bernie and his supporters. I have not seen anything comparable from Bernie supporters, we may disparage Hillary but we do so based on her record and evidence not on personal mean attacks.

[Codeine]

3. Codswallop. nt

[Cosmocat]

22. Say what you want about "Hillary supporters"

but they aren't the ones who on the same day loudly declared Rachow Maddow as a sell out AND championed Joe Scarborough as a man of principle.

Yeah, here at Democratic Underground.

[djean111]

2. Bernie is not going to be given a seat at the Dem table. Hillary just feels

entitled to his supporters and his organization. She has been up front about that.

Your condescending dismissal of Bernie and his supporters is noted. Your authoritarian little directives will be rightfully ignored.

[Codeine]

5. Of course he is.

She's an experienced politician. She knows how to work this. Idiots babbling about primarying him and cutting off funds to VT are just that -- idiots. He's going to be a key figure in the party for a while based on the fact that he did a bang up job in this race for the nomination.

[Doctor_J]

9. That's the problem. Hillary will move to the right after the convention, and farther to the right

if she gets elected. She and Paul Ryan will "compromise" us into a third world hellhole.

[djean111]

10. There would be a parade of "grand bargains".

Count on it.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. You're so right... Hillary's phony progressivism is so damn obvious.

Bernie will be the last one standing... never give up!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[kerry-is-my-prez]

36. So silly - no Dem. Is going to move farther to the right than they do during the GE.

[procon]

14. Seriously? Politics is not about petty emotions, its a long term game

and Hillary is a professional, the Grand Master of the Game. This isn't the movie "Mean Girls" where emotional school girls ware petty and self centered and react without thought to the consequences. This is national politics on the highest tier, and Hillary has 30 years experience in the political arena. She didn't get where she is today by indulging in childish stunts like you imagine.

You're lashing out because Sanders is losing, but he'll still have his 15 minutes of fame and Hillary will play nice, even including some of his ideas in her platform. What you do with your vote after that is up to you, and one way or the other, either Hillary or Trump will thank you.

[Pisces]

16. Excellent post

[highprincipleswork]

31. Tell that to FDR. That's a Progressive with guts. Not the tainted triangulation of the 90's,

which they're probably going to try to recycle all over again.

if they're really not, they ought to make that LOUD AND CLEAR RIGHT NOW!

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18. I'm trying to find common ground and we do need to come together to defeat the GOP

Maybe it's too late for you, sorry if that is so.

[uponit7771]

4. Very true

[NCTraveler]

6. Please stop making sense. It is frowned upon.

I'm now off to continue with my overzealous rhetoric.

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19. LOL!

thanks

[7wo7rees]

7. Quit with telling us to not care re FBi investigation.

I am more concerned with "pay to play", Clinton Foundation, SOS, Huma, Chelsea and her husband's 25 million debacle. When is enough ever enough?
Oh wait, she is going to put Bill in charge of what?
And what about the million$ raised speaking to special audiences?
If you are being paid so well for your special insight, why are you not sharing some of it with all the rest of the body politic you expect to support you?

"F" it Hill.

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20. you are welcome to care about the investigation, I was asking people not to root for

her getting indicted. I'm not even saying Hillary isn't corrupt to some degree or that I'm thrilled with her. It's just that she's likely our nominee and is standing between us and a Trump disaster.

[grasswire]

29. the point is that many of us see her as nearly a great disaster...

...or as great a disaster but in a slightly different way.

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37. is/was Obama's presidency a disaster?

because he's in the same mold as she is.

[GoneFishin]

8. Sure. Punch someone in the face then ask them to calm down. It's a year too late and

and dozens of suspiciously unreconcilable exit polls for that.

[Lizzie Poppet]

13. Yep. Not calming down, not reconciling myself to election shenanigans.

And trust me, this has been a mild reaction to this point...

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38. I've heard there are discrepancies but

where is the careful, documented analysis that really shows good proof of election tampering? Has anyone done this? Because otherwise, it's just another rumor.

[99Forever]

11. Oh fuck no.

I won't fucking "calm down." My retirement possibilities haven't recovered from the last time a Clinton was in the WH.

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17. what does that mean? The stock market soared during the Clinton years.

[99Forever]

21. It means that "The Financial Modernization Act" pushed by The Clintons and signed into law by Billy.

... paved the way for the Great Recession of 2008.

Educate your uninformed self before asking stupid questions. That's "what it means."

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39. I thought you might have meant that but I wanted to be sure

I don't think it's fair to blame Hillary for that, however.

[99Forever]

40. Not fair?

Having a lifetime of retirement resources stolen by dirty rotten scoundrels (Hillary's cronies and financiers).

How about thst? Is that fair?

What precisely did Hillary do to try to stop it? Not a fucking thing. Furthermore it puts the slick scammer who signed it into law back in power.

So fuck yes, BOTH Clintons are to blame.

[pinebox]

12. Hillary is not the devil?

[frylock]

15. Fuck that shit.

The Democrats shit the bed this week with their lying about the events in NV. Reap the whirlwind.

[Cosmocat]

23. I have tried this a couple times

over the last year and have totally given up on it.

There is no reasoning with it, Rachel Maddow is a sell out POS and Joe Scarborough is a man of principle.

THIS is what we are dealing with at this point here.

[Fast Walker 52]

26. LOL, yeah

[BootinUp]

24. How come she is rated one of the most liberal but DU calls her a centrist? Because you compare her

to a socialist perhaps?

[Fast Walker 52]

25. because DU has a large contingent of strong liberals who are not happy with the Dem party

I imagine you guessed that by now...

[BootinUp]

28. Yes, but they should be pressed to answer the damn question lol.

[SpareribSP]

33. Hillary has been cozy

With a lot of third way/corporatism, and she also has a more authoritarian streak then Sanders does. She's also running on incrementalism so it would be shocking to me if her agenda wasn't centrist.

[asuhornets]

27. Good luck with that.....n/t

[joshcryer]

30. Remember when PUMA was a thing but wasn't?

Well, Bernie or Bust is a thing, and it's annoying as fuck.

[IdaBriggs]

34. Not acting -- if she broke the law like it looks like she did...

I want her prosecuted because the whole "I'm rich and therefore the law does not apply" is unacceptable.

I have separate issues with her apparent corruption, cronyism, bad judgment and lying.

Ex: "The FBI hasn't approached me about an interview" she says. That's because according to her campaign spokesman, the FBI is scheduling everything through her attorney who is in close communication with them. That type of word parsing salad is one of the many examples of her being a LIAR.

I will not support someone who I think belongs in jail.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. I agree with one caveat

Hillary is not the devil. She's a standard centrist Democrat. She even has a number of positive attributes.

Hillary is not the devil. She's a standard issue mainstream Democrat, as she has been her entire career. She even has a number of positive attributes.

[seabeyond]

41. Actually, the primary is over.