A terrible week for liars like Jon Ralston, Roberta Lange, and Barbara Boxer.

[reformist2]

In a simpler time, before there was an internet, their despicable lies would have been accepted as the truth, and the public would be shaking their heads at how awful and violent and unreasonable Bernie's supporters had become.

But instead, with the help of ubiquitous video cameras and the internet, all of their lies have been disproven in the space of just a few days. Every one of their lies get exposed, and Bernie and his supporters only gets stronger.

[YouDig]

1. In the real world, it was a terrible week for Bernie.

The only lies were his campaign's conspiracy theory claims, which were rated false by politifact.

[QC]

2. Do you think you can hit 1,100 by the end of the day?

I have every confidence that you can!

[kaleckim]

6. Come on

seems like a nice gig. Times are tough, the person's gotta pay their bills.

[reformist2]

15. Wow, you're not kidding - that poster had only 500 the last time I checked!

[QC]

18. Averaging about a thousand posts a month.

I can't help but admire such dedication.

[1StrongBlackMan]

27. Clearly, that poster is a bought anf paid for troll ...

not like the pure and sincere, unquestionedly, dedicated Bernie supporters with equal numbers of posts.

[think]

34. Bernie isn't paying for trolls. Hillary's super pac on the other hand spent a million on trolls

And that's just what we know of. Who knows how many Wall Street super pac trolls are being paid for from other sources.

Wall Street isn't afraid to spend millions to get their person in the office. And everyone knows what kind of ethics Wall Street has
NONE ...

[1StrongBlackMan]

43. Okay ... LOL.

[think]

51. Laugh all you want. You can't deny Brock paid a million bucks for trolls for Hillary so just laugh

Because paid internet trolls are so funny....

[1StrongBlackMan]

55. Okay ... LOL

[JRLeft]

75. You're laughing, but it's true.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/04/hillary-clintons-super-pac-taking-a-page-from-vlad.html

[bahrbearian]

85. Might be laughing all the way to the bank

[MaeScott]

80. Paying for posts..that's the Clinton way

[Hekate]

66. Your sarcasm has survived 6 to 1

And rightly so

[seabeyond]

76. We have a subthread of posters calling another a paid troll, and strongblackman got an alert?

fuck that.

[1StrongBlackMan]

81. And, let me guess ...

the 1 voting to hide provided no explanation, right?

[greiner3]

82. And you a Hillary supporter

So WTF

[1StrongBlackMan]

83. LOL ...

Ignoring that your post is completely out of the context of my post ... You angry, bro?

I understand outrage interferes with reading comprehension. I hear their serving Graham Crackers and Milk after nap time. Try again, then.

[slipslidingaway]

31. Obviously you are slacking off ...

with only 130-140 posts per month.

[.99center]

58. Could've swore it was just a day ago that he had 500

Holy crap, when do they sleep?

[Art_from_Ark]

68. Could be a tag-team event

[BootinUp]

4. Let them fantasize, its amusing to me. nt

[reformist2]

17. You're amused because you think people still watch TV. The joke is on you.

[BootinUp]

28. Still 1000 times more than read your nonsense. LOL

[mindwalker_i]

38. You are reading his "nonsense"

[BootinUp]

40. ...and busting a GUT! ROFL

[anotherproletariat]

24. It was a horrible week for Sanders! One piece of evidence is that all the prolific posters

of everything Sanders on my Facebook page have totally stopped. And two have admitted that they are disappointed in him and the way he handled the NV melee. I'm a college student (on summer break...yay!) so believe me, I have lots of Sanders supporting friends. Their eyes are starting to open.

[passiveporcupine]

52. Sorry...can't stop laughing.

[anotherproletariat]

69. Good for you, laughing is a great way to reduce stress. Remember, it's just an election.

Everything will be okay. Your candidate can't always win. Just keep looking for the things that make you laugh.

[Fawke Em]

67. My Daddy's band in high school and college was called The Proletariats.

He became a CAD-CAM operator.

He kept losing his jobs every five years after Reagan, through Bush and it accelerated through Clinton. My Daddy helped create the GTE Flip-Fone. He was no slacker.

He died two years ago this month of cancer. I wish he'd have seen Bernie.

You don't know what it's like to lose your job every five years due to NAFTA and CAFTA.

You need YOUR eyes opened, my friend.

[anotherproletariat]

70. Not much of a problem for me. Kind of picked that screen name to try and blend in

with the working class.

[intheflow]

74. Funny, everyone on my feed double-downed.

You must have very fair-weather friends.

[passiveporcupine]

50. appropriate user name

you keep digging your hole deeper.

[griffi94]

3. Bernie had a pretty bad week

It's ok tho because it's almost over.

Soon he'll be back in Vermont where he can rest.

Poor old guy.

[think]

7. He's got more stamina than you'll ever have and twice the integrity.

[Demsrule86]

13. Integrity?

I used to think so...not anymore.

[think]

19. Hillary and Goldman Sachs all under sniper fire. Now there's integrity

[mindwalker_i]

42. "I used to think..."

Stop right there.

[griffi94]

14. Well of course he does

He'll never have the most delegates or the most votes
or the nomination.

But he really yells a lot and that wears a body down.

Poor old guy.

[SpareribSP]

23. Super Classy

[griffi94]

26. Thanks

[anotherproletariat]

25. Heehee... nt

[StayFrosty]

5. Bernie's week was even worse

[Renew Deal]

8. Where did Lange get the texts and voice mails she publicized?

Where did the video of the guy with the chair over his head come from?

[FourScore]

16. Just because someone says the calls were from Sander's supporters doesn't make it so.

No one knows who they were - they were anonymous.

The FBI are looking into it, and they will trace who made the calls.

The guy with the chair over his head - lifted a chair over his head, then set it down gently. No throwing.

[Renew Deal]

20. Sanders supporters gleefully admitted to doing it

Here is your link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1999793

You're welcome

[FourScore]

32. What's so hard about this? Just because they say they are Sanders supporters doens't make it so.

Qui bono? Hmmm...

We'll find out after the FBI trace the calls.

[Renew Deal]

39. When did the conspiracy begin?

I just want to know. I can't wait for the FBI. Did it begin before the primaries started? Did it begin last week? How did that crafty Clinton campaign get the convention appropriately orchestrated to prop up some fake Sanders supporters? Or was the backlash at the convention all staged? Were the Sanders delegates really just provocateurs? OMG OMG OMG. I just opened my eyes and I can see!

[FourScore]

47. It's called a political machine. Not a conspiracy. Educate yourself on them.

They are quite effective - until the people figure out how they work. And the people always eventually figure them out.

[Renew Deal]

49. Here's what I think about this

Salon: There’s too much denial, conjecture and nonsense being passed among Sanders supporters.

<snip>
There’s too much denial, conjecture and nonsense being passed among Sanders supporters. I thought liberals were the voice of evidence and reason? My own, 22-year-old, Bernie-loving son regurgitated conservative talking points to me the other day. “Hillary and Trump are no different,” he said. This is the wet dream of the Trump campaign, to conflate Clinton with an orange buffoon. Hillary has run a good campaign. She is a respected politician with a passionate following—and more votes than my guy. I didn’t escape the Fox News echo chamber just to embrace an equally angry liberal version.

I one wrote that the Sanders revolution reminded me of the Ron Paul campaign, a “revolution” in which I was also deeply enmeshed. Sadly, some Bernie supports would feel right at home at a Paul rally.

Paul is a libertarian-leaning Republican and his supporters were rabid to the point of blindness. They held onto kooky conspiracy theories and an unquenchable rage. Their insistence on purity tore at the foundations of their own ideology. In the end, they hurt no one but themselves. I see too many uncomfortable comparisons between Paul and Sanders supporters. It has become almost a personality cult. Sanders supporters are also in danger of overplaying this moment and doing themselves lasting harm. The Paul movement thought itself invincible, yet whatever happened to that Rand fellow?

The desperation and rage has led to harassment of some super delegates. One supporter was even charged with a felony count of threatening a public servant. We Sanders supporters face a choice about how we will behave. I don’t want to look back in ten years and be ashamed of what we did. The behavior of the losing side means something, and there is still a lot of good that can be done if we seize the moment.
<snip>

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/18/sorry_bernie_i_love_you_but_this_is_over_and_getting_embarrassing

[BootinUp]

64. +1

[Number23]

71. Please tell me that's an OP somewhere so that I can kick and rec it

[Renew Deal]

79. It is

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512008836

[1StrongBlackMan]

30. LOL ... watch the video again ...

Chair Guy had the chair taken from him, and restrained, by a less inflamed Bernie supporter.

[FourScore]

41. All around the man were calm people who encouraged him to take a breath. Which he did.

THERE WERE NO THROWN CHAIRS. NO VIOLENCE.

Nothing was even "restrained". They encouraged the man to put the chair down and he handed it to the guy in front of him to set down. All that happened was that he raised it over his head and set it back down (granted, while handing it off to someone else.)

AGAIN, NOTHING WAS THROWN. THERE WAS NO VIOLENCE.

Why is this so hard for Hillary supporters to understand?

[1StrongBlackMan]

53. LOL ...

They encouraged the man to put the chair down and he handed it to the guy in front of him to set down. All that happened was that he raised it over his head and set it back down (granted, while handing it off to someone else.)

That's what I said.

Now ... Why did he lift the chair (that had to be "encouraged to be put down) ... was he looking for the "Made by Union labor" stamp?

Just stop the damned apologia ... people acted the ass.

[FourScore]

62. I don't think you're really LOLing. THERE WAS NO VIOLENCE AND NO THROWN CHAIRS.

One guy got a little heated, lifted a chair and set it back down.

[Voice for Peace]

65. Come on now, explain Hillary superfan's violence?

That was much worse. Much much worse.

Clinton fans are violent and dangerous, according to his example; and I can only infer that Hillary's prolongued silence condones violence against Bernie supporters.*

Yeah?
Surely you agree with me?

(*using the Clintonian Inference Spin Guide formula, volume one chapter 6 pages 47-8)

[libdem4life]

9. Now the talking points are a bit ancient...Who are you going to believe,

me or your lying eyes...when posed with audio and video of these events.

[Demsrule86]

10. In the real world

It was a terrible week for Bernie Sanders...who's supporters behaved badly, didn't get enough votes to move any delegates really, is low on money...and is being condemned by just about everyone. And what has he to look forward to? California ?

[Renew Deal]

21. It has been

He's been demolished

[mindwalker_i]

48. Good job

Catapulting that propaganda.

[passiveporcupine]

56. Thanks for the new name on my ignore list

One more yellow button down...how many to go?

[One Black Sheep]

12. It's wonderful, the corporate and establishment lies can be challenged and exposed

and seen as the falsehoods they are, so that the people know what is really going on, all because of social media.

The corporate and political establishment can no longer get away with their deceptions, not like they used to anyway.
And there is no way of putting this genie back in the bottle.

[reformist2]

22. And the more they get caught, the lower their ratings go, and the more IRRELEVANT they become.

People forget that shows like Chris Matthews' Hardball on MSNBC get less than 100,000 viewers. And many of them are party insiders and well-connected elite. In other words, zero influence on the general population.

[One Black Sheep]

29. Indeed, the new media of the people is quickly making the old establishment media irrelevant

Eventually, the corporate media hacks audience will all be themselves, and they can lie to themselves all day.

[1StrongBlackMan]

33. And what appear on the internet is so trustworthy?

[reformist2]

36. Raw video and audio - no filters, nobody telling you how to think, for starters.

[One Black Sheep]

45. I'm a huge fan of social media, and cut the television cord ages ago.

Try it, you might like it!

[reformist2]

73. Yep. I still have regular free TV. But I don't have cable TV anymore, and don't miss a thing!

When it comes to cable, it's really not good enough to change the channel. You've got to cut them off, completely.

Three words: starve the beast.

[lumberjack_jeff]

35. But back in that simpler time, there was some sort of sanction for being that kind of liar.

Team Clinton just keeps repeating their lies until they invent a better one.

[riversedge]

46. "Team Sanders just keeps repeating their lies until they invent a better one."

From your post.
Team Clinton just keeps repeating their lies until they invent a better one.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


#HRCIsOurNominee


Even Bernie says so

[passiveporcupine]

60. From your very own post here, Bernie was just lying.

You said it, not me.

[riversedge]

37. Yes, thanks to the internet, we know how vile some Sanders are.

[grasswire]

44. and by extension.....many media outlets and personalities

Rachel

Tweety

[Uncle Joe]

57. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, reformist2.

[HooptieWagon]

59. Hillary sure surrounds herself with a cast of liars.

Birds of a feather and all that... But it's quite astonishing how brazen they are. They know people have video capability on their phones, and can post it up to social media within minutes. But they don't care. It's just a narcissistic , in your face, straight up , abuse of power. And they're intending a display of power will bring us to heel. Well, fuck them. I don't cotten to RW Republicans posing as Democrats, especially the corporatist authoritarian types. Fuck them.

[CobaltBlue]

61. reformist2—On the bright side: Roberta Lange may now have a career.

[ozone_man]

63. Yep, Boxer is a liar.

Sad that Democrats stoop to such levels.

[barrow-wight]

72. It's terrible that people doxxed them and used such vulgarities and verbal violence.

Barbara Boxer, in particular, has been a spectacular senator. I'm so disappointed that people support Bernie so blindly that they will attack anyone who disagrees with him in such utterly vicious ways. But then, I see it here constantly. It's so disheartening.

[dreamnightwind]

87. Looks like we've got another one here

barrow-wight
Account status: Active
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Last post: Fri May 20, 2016, 03:00 PM

Bernie supporters are not blind, not at all.

[passiveporcupine]

88. Verbal violence? Bwaaahaaahaaa

Yeah, gotta make sure you get that "violence" meme going now that it's been debunked.

I guess I can handle verbal violence a little better than the Wendell Pierce kind...you know, the grabbing a woman by her hair and then hitting her in the head just for being a Bernie supporter.

Verbal violence, my ass.

[MaeScott]

77. Hey, liars gotta lie. This is third phase."then they fight you"

[DrDan]

78. Lol - Bernie's supporters/delegates have emerged for what they are

[kiva]

89. Yes, we have.

We are a group of people who won't sit quietly at a convention, politely applaud a scolding then willingly drink the koolaid.

[taught_me_patience]

84. Now Lange is a liar?

Those calls and voicemails were made up? Barbara Boxer, who is an extremely popular progressive senator from the largest state in the union is now a liar? WTF? Bernie supporters have gone completely off the rails. This is seriously sad and pathetic to watch.

[trudyco]

86. Good point!

I can watch the videos and the first person accounts and realize it's a disinformation campaign. The DNC is orchestrating a blatant lie. What I don't get is why Boxer would stoop so low.

[pdsimdars]

90. I am not sure you are correct. I bet a big majority of Americans get their news from cable

And for them, what they saw, was that Bernie supporters threw chairs and caused a riot in NV. Because that is the only thing the MSM showed. WE saw the real video, but I don't think it was played ANYWHERE on MSM.

All they got was the first part, the SMEAR part. Did they get any retraction on cable? I don't think so.

Just something to think about.