Eugene Robertson: "Sanders camp is behaving like a 2-yr-old who can’t have ice cream for breakfast."

[riversedge]

Spot on Eugene!



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Sanders’s scorched-earth campaign is a gift to Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sanderss-scorched-earth-campaign-is-a-gift-to-trump/2016/05/19/b2f582b4-1ded-11e6-9c81-4be1c14fb8c8_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-e%3Ahomepage%2Fstory


By Eugene Robinson

May 19 at 7:20 PM

Bernie Sanders is playing a dangerous game. If he and his campaign continue their scorched-earth attacks against the Democratic Party, they will succeed in only one thing: electing Donald Trump as president.

I say this as someone who shares much of Sanders’s political philosophy; I, too, for example, see health care as a basic right. He has run a remarkable and historically significant campaign, pulling the party to the left and pumping it full of new progressive vigor. His crowds are almost as big as Trump’s and perhaps even more enthusiastic. Most important, he has brought legions of young people into the political process.

But he hasn’t won the nomination.

Hillary Clinton has an insurmountable lead in pledged delegates, earned by her performance in primaries and caucuses. In the aggregate, she leads Sanders by about 3 million votes. The will of the party is clear: More Democrats prefer Clinton over Sanders as their nominee.

Instead of accepting this obvious fact, the Sanders campaign is behaving like a 2-year-old who can’t have ice cream for breakfast. All along, Sanders and his aides have claimed that the party establishment was unfairly tipping the scales in favor of Clinton. Now the Sanders people have gone further and are deliberately stoking anger and a sense of grievance — less against Clinton than the party itself. This is reckless in the extreme, and it could put Trump in the White House. .....................................

[CAG]

1. And now for the calls that Eugene Robinson is

A corporate drone just to the right of Pat Buchanon, Jerry Falwell, and {sigh}, Barbara Boxer.

[Number23]

7. See right below. The BoogeyBrockman is apparently EVERYWHERE!!1

[anotherproletariat]

8. Yup.

[BootinUp]

13. LOL nt

[CorporatistNation]

28. TOTAL ESTABLISHMENT DIRTBALL!

BOUGHT AND PAID FOR... NO BETTER THAN RACHEL!

[Cosmocat]

47. Meanwhile - Joe Scarborough

is a man of principle because he and his sycophants said nice things about Bernie yesterday.

THIS is Democratic Underground, 2016.

[aikoaiko]

3. "scorched earth"? The mildest criticisms are scorched earth apparently.

I'm glad Bernie is speaking out.

[Thinkingabout]

4. Sanders must be fooling himself for he isn't fooling many here.

He isn't going to wake up June 7 and suddenly find Hillary has stepped down and he is going to get her delegates. It is time to cut the bs and get on to the next phase.

[reformist2]

6. If you think we're going to forget what happened, you're the one fooling yourself.

[Thinkingabout]

12. It will be a long time forgetting the threats and had behavior, maybe it was only about

One hundred acting out but none the less unacceptable behavior.

[Sheepshank]

40. We still all remember the Naderites too. So you don't have to worry about short term memories nt

[reformist2]

5. No. We just don't like election fraud, or frauduelent convention proceedings. We won't stop.

[CAG]

9. 3 million more votes

[cui bono]

22. Bullshit statement since caucuses don't count votes.

Not to mention it is completely unrelated to anything the poster you replied to said.

Oh, and btw... plenty of people didn't get to vote, most of them were Bernie supporters, so again, bogus.

.

[brush]

29. Caucuses do count votes. That's one reason why they take so much time.

I caucused in Vegas and watched as the Clinton supporters, clearly outnumbering the Sanders supporters, were counted.

Then Sanders people were counted.

Hillary won the Nevada caucus on election day. I'm sure you're aware of that.

Sanders' people tried to steal it at the county convention then at the state convention of Saturday where their attempt failed and they got angry — all over a 1-2 delegate swing which hardly would come close to narrowing Hillary's near-300 delegate lead.

What were they thinking. It was dumb.

I hope after this mess we get rid of the vote-suppressing caucus system and go back to a primary where the outcome is determined on election day with no need for a county convention and then a state convention.

[Fawke Em]

36. Pay attention.

The numbers Hilliterates quote are from the raw vote totals and most caucuses don't release that. They only release the delegate counts... unless you think that only 570 people voted in Alaska.

[brush]

45. You pay attention. She won on election day by five points

Sanders' people tried to change the will of the people who preferred Clinton.

They failed.

[Demsrule86]

16. then why did you commit election fraud in Nevada?

Hillary won those states...your little miss Bernie supporter DNC sent the wrong time to Hillary delegates...and lost her job...deservedly so you could steal delegates because you could not get them to vote for you...to add insult to injury...some of the voters were African American...terrible behavior.

[pinskinny]

10. Says the corporate conservadem writer.

[Live and Learn]

11. Because selecting someone to run the country is just the same as choosing ice cream for breakfast?

[Skwmom]

14. No Eugene. It is the corporate media and the Democratic Establishment putting Trump in the WH.

To ignore the elephant in the room - the corrupt system - which is why people want an anti-Establishment President -is handing Trump the keys to the WH.

[Cheese Sandwich]

15. I think Mr. Robinson. is missing something important here.

He said

They rail against “unfair” and “undemocratic” party processes — unless they work in Sanders’s favor. So party conventions — such as the one last weekend in Nevada, at which Sanders tried and failed to win a couple of extra delegates through parliamentary maneuvering — are bad. But holding caucuses, which have limited participation, instead of primaries is good, because Sanders did very well in caucus states.

But he's missing an important point. We call the system unfair when they don't play by their own rules. When we try to play by the rules and then suddenly they have to suspend the rules, and set up emergency temporary rules, never seen before.

So for example this is what happened sparking the anger at the Nevada convention. And the vote to adopt the temporary rules was completely fake, and there is plenty of evidence and witnesses on that.

Or for example when the DNC suspended the Sanders campaign's access to the the shared systems with the voter file. That was a breach of contract and the campaign had to file in federal court to get their access restored.

So in response to Mr. Robinson I would say this is not simply an issue of perceiving unfairness where none exists. But rather it is an issue of how when we try to play by the rules, they break the rules and change the rules in the middle of the process.

It seems extremely unfair.

But I respect Eugene Robinson though and like his work.

I think Van Jones got it right.

[cui bono]

20. Well said. Also, plenty of Bernie supporters are in favor of ending caususes even though

he did better in them.

It's just more propaganda to smear Bernie supporters. So much hatred and so little concern for democracy. Why are they so involved then?

.

[Skwmom]

34. Caucus states are harder to steal. No wonder Bernie does better in caucus states.

[EndElectoral]

17. Who says Bernie can't have ice cream for breakfast? He is not the candidate of "can't."

[Barack_America]

18. Eugene, I love you, but you know it's not Sanders's fault Hillary is a shitty candidate.

He and his supporters should not have to bend over for the Democratic establishment to compensate for that. We are the future of this party and we deserve a chair at the table.

If Hillary cannot survive allowing all Democrats to vote in the primary season, then she has no business being our nominee.

[SFnomad]

25. It must be embarrassing for BS cheerleaders, that BS can't beat a "shitty candidate", eh? n/t

[Barack_America]

26. He beat the shitty candidate. It's the DNC he's having trouble with.

[SFnomad]

27. LOL, yeah, he beat Secretary Clinton by being nearly 300 delegates short and

3+ million votes behind. And blaming all that on the DNC is weak.

[cherokeeprogressive]

38. She's a shitty candidate, with the complete backing of the M$M. No embarrassment here.

Do the math you keep crowing about.

[SFnomad]

39. Math is math ... it's #BernieMath that has no basis in reality n/t

[Sheepshank]

41. didn't you and your guys crow about Bernie out-fundraising Hillary at some point?

pretty sure I remember the bragging and hooting and hollering about it.

[cherokeeprogressive]

42. I'm not getting your point.

[riversedge]

48. Only Democrats should vote in a Demoratic Primary.

[cui bono]

19. Establishment pundit calls anti-establishment candidate names to defend establishment

candidate.

*yawn*

.

[KingFlorez]

21. That's putting it mildly

[Autumn]

23. democrats always have to settle. That's why we can't have nice things.

It isn't Bernie who is reckless, it's the party leadership who are being reckless.

[postatomic]

24. Wait! You mean I can't have Ice Cream for breakfast??!!

Next thing ya' know I won't be able to have cold Pizza for lunch. I have no idea what he's doing. Maybe Jeff rolled a triple volux and received a Double Shield for the next 5 plays.

No one expects the Hate Squad.

[Alfresco]

30. Some losers show dignity in defeat, others not so much.

[Fumesucker]

31. Coo coo ca choo Mr Robinson

Jesus loves you more than you will know

[frustrated_lefty]

32. Hillary Clinton has an insurmountable lead in pledged delegates, earned by

electioneering (southern states first), bogus tactics (like having her hubbie appear at polling stations), and downright cheating (Nevada).

Instead of accepting the fact that Clinton's campaign is that of a slime sucking bottom feeder, Eugene Robertson defends the deplorable and resorts to passe' fear tactics to support a barely plausible candidate.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. The Emancipation Proclamation

Hillary Clinton has an insurmountable lead in pledged delegates, earned by

electioneering (southern states first),

Lets' put that meme to bed.

Darn The Emancipation Proclamation, the 13th Amendment, the 14th Amendment, the 15th Amendment, and the 19th Amendment and the Voting Rights Act too...

Yay- Robert E. Lee, the fight against women suffrage and all that.


SARCASM

[My Good Babushka]

33. meaning

the cossetted wealthy under the loving eye of their doting, lackey politicians will continue to eat everyone's ice cream.

[JRLeft]

35. Scorched earth?

😂😂😂😂😂

[mmonk]

43. Pyscho babble of the puppets of the aristocracy.

You have no clothes.

[JCanete]

44. Say it isn't so Eugene. Oh well, he's good when he's good.

This whole article is pretty typical of the discrediting going on by the establishment. Not that that means you have to be lying to be selling, but whether Robinson is just this un-examining of the Democratic establishment he's apart of, or carrying its water with full understanding of the cooling effect this line of attack has on trying to point out any issues of concern with our system, both possibilities are disappointing.

There's no question, when the candidate who is losing calls into question the system, he is walking a very tenuous tight-rope and risking being pummeled by the media that's been waiting with baited breath for this moment. But I'm going to take none of those attacks seriously unless they first actually address the allegations. How about, "this is a very serious accusation, and I looked into it. Here's my take on it." But this surface take-down of any questioning of the system is in service of protecting the system, not of improving it, so what value does it have?

[Orsino]

46. Primary slashfic. n/t

[Persondem]

49. Indeed. K & R nt