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imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:06 PM May 2016

Hillary Tells CNN She Will Be The Democratic Nominee for President!!!! Bernie Sander's Response.



Press Release

Sanders Campaign Statement on Clinton’s Comments
May 19, 2016


PALM SPRINGS, Calif. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ spokesman, Michael Briggs, on Thursday issued the following statement after Secretary Hillary Clinton told CNN she will be the Democratic Party’s nominee for president:

“In the past three weeks voters in Indiana, West Virginia and Oregon respectfully disagreed with Secretary Clinton. We expect voters in the remaining nine contests also will disagree. And with almost every national and state poll showing Sen. Sanders doing much, much better than Secretary Clinton against Donald Trump, it is clear that millions of Americans have growing doubts about the Clinton campaign.”

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-statement-clintons-comments/
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Hillary Tells CNN She Will Be The Democratic Nominee for President!!!! Bernie Sander's Response. (Original Post) imagine2015 May 2016 OP
Bernie - its the math. DURHAM D May 2016 #1
It's false math. Hillary won't win enough pledged delegates to capture the nomination. Period. imagine2015 May 2016 #12
BS has lost 2 SuperDs in the last few days. DURHAM D May 2016 #13
the big shift from Clinton to Obama in terms of super delegates onenote May 2016 #25
Wrong Corporate666 May 2016 #37
Meh. JoePhilly May 2016 #2
Bernie -wake up and smell the flowers... riversedge May 2016 #3
Obama lost 9 of the last 12 primaries in 2008 UMTerp01 May 2016 #4
Good point! And still Hillary could not capture the nomination in 2008! imagine2015 May 2016 #18
I'm surprised there wasn't a fundraising angle. Metric System May 2016 #5
Oh, I'm sure one is coming. Followed by a twitter hashtag... timlot May 2016 #11
Bernie's not appealing to the corporate fat cats and Wall Street sharks for money. imagine2015 May 2016 #22
wager enid602 May 2016 #6
Oh, wow, can't meet you on that one, lol Thinkingabout May 2016 #10
And if you're right Donald Trump will become the next President. imagine2015 May 2016 #17
That is probably an even safer wager. nt Snotcicles May 2016 #21
And why would that be? onenote May 2016 #27
Only if Democrats don't vote for the Democratic nominee. baldguy May 2016 #33
Bernie should just release a statement griffi94 May 2016 #7
It seems you're not familiar with convention and delegate rules. imagine2015 May 2016 #16
Seems I'm more familiar with them than the Bernie griffi94 May 2016 #19
This makes him look sad.nt boston bean May 2016 #8
Two hundred fifty more will deny Sanders enough delegates, three million more vorers have Thinkingabout May 2016 #9
That millions more votes thing was disproven... scscholar May 2016 #29
Better try that one again, it is true, no spin just plain math. Thinkingabout May 2016 #31
This proves you wrong scscholar May 2016 #35
No it does not, this link proves spin, nothing more. Caucus numbers do not count as votes. Thinkingabout May 2016 #36
Too bad that he lies for money... Sancho May 2016 #14
Please, quote the lie for me, will you? sadoldgirl May 2016 #24
What does Hillary do for her campaign money? imagine2015 May 2016 #26
By #bernielogic only the states Bernie won count. YouDig May 2016 #15
Yes, and Bernie expects free stuff too. The Second Stone May 2016 #20
How can she clinch the nomination without enough delegate votes? In your dreams. imagine2015 May 2016 #28
The openly supporting superdelegates put her over the top The Second Stone May 2016 #30
Delusional or lying? nt Nonhlanhla May 2016 #23
She's 90 delegates away. ucrdem May 2016 #32
Hillary needs to step down; she cannot win the GE and is destroying the Dem party amborin May 2016 #34
 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
12. It's false math. Hillary won't win enough pledged delegates to capture the nomination. Period.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:17 PM
May 2016

It's up to the free agent super delegates to pick the nominee.

A few hundred super delegates may once again abandon Hillary and vote for her opponent just like they did at the 2008 convention.

That's the great fear in her camp.

They did it once to her and why in their own self-interest (wanting to defeat Trump) they may do so once again.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
25. the big shift from Clinton to Obama in terms of super delegates
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:46 PM
May 2016

-- the shift that gave him the nomination before the convention -- occurred when Obama secured a majority of pledged delegates.

At what point in time do you envision Sanders securing a majority of the pledged delegates?

Corporate666

(587 posts)
37. Wrong
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:20 PM
May 2016

It is not up to the SD's to pick the nominee. The SD's get a vote. The nominee still needs to get enough votes (pledged and SD) to reach 2383.

You make it sound like if nobody gets 2383 on pledged delegates, they start over and the SD's choose. That's not true.

Also, while the SD's are free to vote as they like, they are also free to disclose their vote. So far, most (almost all, really) have announced they are supporting HRC.

The simple fact is that there are not enough uncommitted SD's left to give enough votes to Bernie to win. The only way for him would be for virtually ALL of the SD's - including the vast, vast majority who have committed to HRC, to go back on their word and switch to him.

Him, having won less states, less of the popular vote, less pledged delegates and not being a long-term party member.


HRC has swayed 5% of all Bernie's committed SD's over to her in the last few days. Even if Bernie was able to do this times ten, and get 50% of her committed SD's to his camp, he still loses.

It's over. He's lost. He's done. Time to pack up and go home. After he gives his full and uncompromising support to the nominee, HRC, of course.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
4. Obama lost 9 of the last 12 primaries in 2008
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:09 PM
May 2016

But y'all keep thinking that somehow is going to work in your favor while the rest of Clinton Country remains....

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
22. Bernie's not appealing to the corporate fat cats and Wall Street sharks for money.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:41 PM
May 2016
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And Hillary "works hard for the money" as Senator Tom Carper pointed out at one of her "mass" meetings.

enid602

(8,620 posts)
6. wager
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:11 PM
May 2016

I'll bet you 5 bernie buttons and a newly minted Burlington College diploma that she is the nominee.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
27. And why would that be?
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:48 PM
May 2016

And why wouldn't Trump defeat Sanders? Do you think Sanders can win without the "Democratic establishment"?

Is Sanders going to campaign side by side with Democratic congress critters and Senators and Governors in blue states if those elected officials are part of the Democratic establishment?

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
33. Only if Democrats don't vote for the Democratic nominee.
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

You will vote for the Democratic nominee, won't you?

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
7. Bernie should just release a statement
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:11 PM
May 2016

That says he's going to be King Of The Whole Universe.

That's at least as realistic as him thinking he
still has a chance at the nomination.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
19. Seems I'm more familiar with them than the Bernie
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:34 PM
May 2016

supporters who think the SDs are going to flip to Sanders if Hillary has
the most pledged delegates.

Keep that wishful thinking going tho.
And buy a lotto ticket while you're wishing.

Bernie will not be our nominee.
Sorry

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. Two hundred fifty more will deny Sanders enough delegates, three million more vorers have
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:14 PM
May 2016

Told Bernie no, there will be more telling him no. They have been splitting the delegates, do the math.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
20. Yes, and Bernie expects free stuff too.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:37 PM
May 2016

Clinton has already clinched the nomination. Way to be graceful about it BS.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
28. How can she clinch the nomination without enough delegate votes? In your dreams.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:49 PM
May 2016

Must be the new math .... silly math.
 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
30. The openly supporting superdelegates put her over the top
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:57 PM
May 2016

in case that hasn't been noticed. Old fashioned math. 2,383 needed to win. Clinton has 2,293 and there are 939 still up for votes. Clinton will get just over half of those, there is no way she will not get 106 of them. That is clinched.

I truly would love to play poker with Sanders supporters.

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