2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumYes, Clinton is winning the popular vote — by a wide margin
Writer and activist Shaun King has a prolific presence on social media and an outspoken passion for Bernie Sanders. King appeared in Sanders's Spike Lee-directed promotional video that came out shortly before the New York primary, and he has consistently advocated for the senator from Vermont on Twitter for months.
On Thursday, he used Twitter to vent about something that frustrated him: Hillary Clinton's assertion that she leads the Democratic primary by 3 million votes, a figure that he says is inaccurate and overstated.
It isn't.
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Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)Kessler's analysis is tripe.
Sean's point is that not taking into account that caucuses involve fewer voters than do primaries grossly underestimates the number of votes a caucus winner would have received IF the state had held a primary instead.
Now Kessler is free to question whether you can legitimately make that extrapolation (in fact, I would tend to agree that you can't) BUT what he does instead is to estimate the number of CAUCUS VOTERS and then act like he's addressed the issue raised by Mr. King. That, my friend, is a LIE.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)This has been floating around so long, in fact, The Post's fact-checkers looked at this issue at the beginning of April. Did Clinton at that point actually lead by 2.5 million votes, as she claimed? No, she didn't.
She led by 2.4 million votes.
The Post's Glenn Kessler arrived at that figure by taking estimates of how many people came out to vote in caucus contests and applying the final vote margin to that population. This is admittedly imprecise, as King notes, since in some caucuses (like Iowa's) voter preferences can and do change. Kessler's total included Washington, despite King's insistence and in Washington, he figured that Sanders had the support of 167,201 voters to Clinton's 62,330. Despite that, still a 2.4 million advantage for Clinton.
Meteor Man
(385 posts)Kessler arrived at his totals by making estimates.
Estimate is a mathematical term for guess work.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)The error is small computed to the large margins in question.
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)Like seriously....I was just about to post this Washington Post article point out that yes, Clinton is winning the popular vote. I guess this is there attempt to try to go to the convention by using "BernieMath" to say in fact he has more votes. No. Accept that more people chose Senator Clinton. Accept that Sanders has done an AMAZING job of getting his message across to many people, but that in the end he will come up a little bit short. This is just beyond silly season now. I'm so sick of this f*cking election cycle. I just want November to hurry up and get here so I can vote.
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
Ohioblue22
(1,430 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)...the last person/state voting has to realize that their vote actually doesn't make any difference. I see the point that the more votes/delegates gets, the more leverage he may have at the convention so in that respect, it does make a difference, just not in the overall outcome.
It's those who think that Sanders can actually win this outright and, at the same time, do everything they can to trash-talk our leading candidate, who are deserving of scorn.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)so that we can continue in our fantasy! Be my guest.