2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI've been with him loudly and passionately, but won't be part of destroying this party in the fall
wise choice.
Wednesday, May 18, 2016 12:11 PM CST
Sorry, Bernie: I love you, but this is over and getting embarrassing
I've been with him loudly and passionately, but won't be part of destroying this party in the fall
http://www.salon.com/2016/05/18/sorry_bernie_i_love_you_but_this_is_over_and_getting_embarrassing/
Edwin Lyngar
Ive been an unapologetic shill for Bernie Sanders, writing articles, sending small donations and attending rallies, but after the recent debacle in my home state of Nevada, coupled with undeniable delegate math, it has became clear to me that Bernie cannot win the nomination. Its sad for his supporters, like me. But what is more troubling is the heated, false and sometimes vile rage coming out of some Bernie supporters, as they grow ever more frustrated at the loss. Ive worked hard in my own life to embrace progressive values, and the rhetoric coming from some parts of my own community reminds me of the Tea Party.
Bernie should give a rousing speech at the convention and hammer hard at the party platform. Hes changed the conversation for a decade or more, but there is a fine line between supporting a candidate and adopting fact-denying, slanderous behavior that we rightfully condemn when its spewed from the right.
Im from this state and had many friends who attended the Nevada Democratic Convention, both for Hillary and Bernie. I was a precinct captain at the Nevada caucus. When my side won the caucus by a card draw, there were no hard feelings. Hillary supporters are my friends, family, coworkers and people I care about. My wife is for Hillary. As I watched the state convention implode, I was just relived that I didnt attend. There is no good, none whatsoever that comes from creating more hate and discontent in a nation already drowning in outrage.
Despite my warm, abiding love for Bernie, I can count. Hillary won Nevada, and she won the state convention. .....................
.................Theres too much denial, conjecture and nonsense being passed among Sanders supporters. I thought liberals were the voice of evidence and reason? My own, 22-year-old, Bernie-loving son regurgitated conservative talking points to me the other day. Hillary and Trump are no different, he said. This is the wet dream of the Trump campaign, to conflate Clinton with an orange buffoon. Hillary has run a good campaign. She is a respected politician with a passionate followingand more votes than my guy. I didnt escape the Fox News echo chamber just to embrace an equally angry liberal version.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Hillary is not the same as Trump, but she has no humor, no ability to take personal insults, no ability to use self-deprecation or irony, is not trusted and is utterly the worst candidate to face off with Trump.
Most important, Hillary is boring. Trump is utterly outlandishly fascinating. He never hesitates to shock and say the extremist, most unexpected things. I just think he out-entertains and out-fascinates Hillary by miles.
Sanders knows how to handle Trump. Hillary will be lost in the face of the Trump animal.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)Response to riversedge (Original post)
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Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Let's not take our eye off the ball and that is the White House. Said this before,Politics is sometimes a blood sport,and a ton of crap gets thrown at people and some sticks and others just slide off. Ms.Clinton could well win the nomination,it was hers to lose from the get go. Let's get back to campaigning and this will all work its way out in the end.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)... and looking for a scapegoat.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Thanks rivers.
procon
(15,805 posts)will continue, just like the recent spate of media articles and op ed pieces calling for Sanders to make a graceful end to his campaign.
Stopping Trump is the only thing that matter now.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)Now you're their pet and it will feel nice when HRC supporters stroke you for your anti-Bernie statement.