2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHere's a section from the official rules of the Nevada Democratic Convention:
a. All delegates, alternates, and guests are entitled to attend and participate in the
convention free of harassment or intimidation. Anyone harassing or attempting to
intimidate any delegate, alternate, or guest to the convention shall be ejected from the
convention immediately and shall forfeit any fees paid for the convention or other
convention activities.
b. Any intentional disruption of any convention activities may result in immediate ejection
from the convention, including the forfeiture of any fees paid for the convention or
other convention activities.
c. Guests invited to speak to the convention shall not have their remarks or presentations
interrupted or interfered with in any manner, including auditory or visual distractions
from the floor. Violation of this rule may result in immediate ejection from the
convention, including the forfeiture of any fees paid for the convention or other
convention activities.
d. Noisemakers of any kind are prohibited at the convention.
e. Conversation on the floor should be kept to a minimum out of respect for guests,
delegates and speakers. Those delegates, alternates, and guests wishing to converse
should exit the floor.
f. The Sergeant(s) at Arms shall have the authority to enforce these rules with the
approval of the Convention Chair.
Source: http://nvdems.3cdn.net/ea5a7f0df495b0cf4c_z2m6bnqh5.pdf
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)many Bernie delegates would have been ejected. Hmm...
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)LonePirate
(13,426 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)LonePirate
(13,426 posts)kiva
(4,373 posts)LonePirate
(13,426 posts)The voters made their choice known on February 20. You're supporting a coup and election fraud if you don't think the will of the voters matters.
kiva
(4,373 posts)Ask yourself why Nevada has a local and a county and a state caucus if only the votes at the first caucus count. You seriously need to educate yourself on the topic if you want to be taken seriously by people who have participated and studied the system.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)Yelling "bitch" cannot be described as anything but "harrassment". A large group of people getting out of their seats and booing, and waving Bernie signs in front of the cameras during Boxer's speech violates point C.
I wonder if the rules had actually been enforced, and all the disrupting Bernie protestors were ejected, would Hillary have won even more delegates?
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)That was a decision made to prevent an even worse situation. But those rules are the same for all Democratic conventions, because some decorum is necessary. They were bent for the Sanders supporters.
LexVegas
(6,068 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)There are the convention rules of decorum. They were seriously not followed. They're simple rules, designed to create a peaceful working environment. Too bad.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... the rest be damned.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)The party's name means something. We select nominees based on people's votes in primaries and caucuses. We have procedures to make sure of that. When a group tries to negate those procedures, they go against the people's votes. Majorities matter.
That's just wrong.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Disruption was allowed to continue. That's extreme patience, I think.
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)standing division shall be taken.
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MineralMan
(146,317 posts)it can be very difficult to determine what a voice vote indicates. Further, when a 2/3 majority is required, as it is for rules changes, that's often clear when 2/3 don't agree.
It's a judgment call on the part of the chair. Are mistakes sometimes made? Probably, but rarely.
hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)Even if we give her a pass on the first one, there's no justifying continuing to refuse to do a count. She created the situation that led to a loss of decorum and failed as a chair.