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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 03:52 PM May 2016

Here's a section from the official rules of the Nevada Democratic Convention:

Decorum
a. All delegates, alternates, and guests are entitled to attend and participate in the
convention free of harassment or intimidation. Anyone harassing or attempting to
intimidate any delegate, alternate, or guest to the convention shall be ejected from the
convention immediately and shall forfeit any fees paid for the convention or other
convention activities.
b. Any intentional disruption of any convention activities may result in immediate ejection
from the convention, including the forfeiture of any fees paid for the convention or
other convention activities.
c. Guests invited to speak to the convention shall not have their remarks or presentations
interrupted or interfered with in any manner, including auditory or visual distractions
from the floor. Violation of this rule may result in immediate ejection from the
convention, including the forfeiture of any fees paid for the convention or other
convention activities.
d. Noisemakers of any kind are prohibited at the convention.
e. Conversation on the floor should be kept to a minimum out of respect for guests,
delegates and speakers. Those delegates, alternates, and guests wishing to converse
should exit the floor.
f. The Sergeant(s) at Arms shall have the authority to enforce these rules with the
approval of the Convention Chair.


Source: http://nvdems.3cdn.net/ea5a7f0df495b0cf4c_z2m6bnqh5.pdf
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Here's a section from the official rules of the Nevada Democratic Convention: (Original Post) MineralMan May 2016 OP
That section was apparently not enforced, or MineralMan May 2016 #1
Where's the part about the DNC ignoring the will of the people? Dawgs May 2016 #2
You mean the people who caucused on February 20? LonePirate May 2016 #4
No. That's not what I mean. n/t Dawgs May 2016 #6
So the will of the people doesn't matter to you after all, huh? LonePirate May 2016 #7
You don't understand the Nevada caucus system. kiva May 2016 #10
I understand it fine. You're advocating for party elites (delegates) to usurp the will of the voters LonePirate May 2016 #14
No you do not. kiva May 2016 #19
So they actually bent the rules massively in Bernie's favor. YouDig May 2016 #3
They did let those rules slide. MineralMan May 2016 #9
They could have avoided all this by having more Cheetos and Mt. Dew Code Red available. nt LexVegas May 2016 #5
Well ... that's inconvenient. JoePhilly May 2016 #8
And yet it's the NV party that is wrong, some say. MineralMan May 2016 #11
They want what they want ... JoePhilly May 2016 #15
That's not how the Democratic Party works. MineralMan May 2016 #16
Agree completely. JoePhilly May 2016 #17
Party leaders showed patience. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #12
Yes. An abundance of patience. MineralMan May 2016 #13
I'm guessing they'll add a manditory video clause if a fringe candidate ever runs again. nt eastwestdem May 2016 #18
Also from the official rules. hellofromreddit May 2016 #20
OK. Standing on the floor or in the seats, MineralMan May 2016 #21
The loud response from the delegates was a clear signal that Roberta should have taken a count hellofromreddit May 2016 #22

LonePirate

(13,426 posts)
14. I understand it fine. You're advocating for party elites (delegates) to usurp the will of the voters
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:57 PM
May 2016

The voters made their choice known on February 20. You're supporting a coup and election fraud if you don't think the will of the voters matters.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
19. No you do not.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:17 PM
May 2016

Ask yourself why Nevada has a local and a county and a state caucus if only the votes at the first caucus count. You seriously need to educate yourself on the topic if you want to be taken seriously by people who have participated and studied the system.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
3. So they actually bent the rules massively in Bernie's favor.
Thu May 19, 2016, 03:56 PM
May 2016

Yelling "bitch" cannot be described as anything but "harrassment". A large group of people getting out of their seats and booing, and waving Bernie signs in front of the cameras during Boxer's speech violates point C.

I wonder if the rules had actually been enforced, and all the disrupting Bernie protestors were ejected, would Hillary have won even more delegates?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
9. They did let those rules slide.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:49 PM
May 2016

That was a decision made to prevent an even worse situation. But those rules are the same for all Democratic conventions, because some decorum is necessary. They were bent for the Sanders supporters.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
11. And yet it's the NV party that is wrong, some say.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:51 PM
May 2016

There are the convention rules of decorum. They were seriously not followed. They're simple rules, designed to create a peaceful working environment. Too bad.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. That's not how the Democratic Party works.
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:32 PM
May 2016

The party's name means something. We select nominees based on people's votes in primaries and caucuses. We have procedures to make sure of that. When a group tries to negate those procedures, they go against the people's votes. Majorities matter.

That's just wrong.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
13. Yes. An abundance of patience.
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:57 PM
May 2016

Disruption was allowed to continue. That's extreme patience, I think.

 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
20. Also from the official rules.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:31 PM
May 2016
If the Convention Chair is unable to determine the outcome of a voice vote, a vote of
standing division shall be taken.

Page 3.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
21. OK. Standing on the floor or in the seats,
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:19 AM
May 2016

it can be very difficult to determine what a voice vote indicates. Further, when a 2/3 majority is required, as it is for rules changes, that's often clear when 2/3 don't agree.

It's a judgment call on the part of the chair. Are mistakes sometimes made? Probably, but rarely.

 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
22. The loud response from the delegates was a clear signal that Roberta should have taken a count
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:32 AM
May 2016

Even if we give her a pass on the first one, there's no justifying continuing to refuse to do a count. She created the situation that led to a loss of decorum and failed as a chair.

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