Question: If you truly feared for your safety, would you have said the things Boxer did?

[Skwmom]

I would vote no.

[Actor]

1. She may have exaggerated her fear and she could have been less obnoxious with

the comments she made originally during her speech.

Still no excuse for the behavour and death threats, and we all know it, dont we?

[Else You Are Mad]

3. I agree.

That should never have happened. Doxxing is not something anyone should do, nor should anyone use that information to threaten anyone. We should really be worried about the Trump supporters that are unstable and have guns -- not some angry hipster Sanders supporters.

[Else You Are Mad]

2. Especially...

Since there was a whole line of intimidating police in front of her blocking the crowd... She is just pushing the talking point.

[pmorlan1]

4. No, no you wouldn't

Have you seen the video in this thread?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016157265#post4

I hadn't seen it until today. This is video of her after her speech where she is leaving the building. It doesn't look like she feared too much for her safety in this video.

[libdem4life]

6. She's a liberal in California and also quite rich, so not used to people

disagreeing with her in such a first-hand situation.

I've met her, and she is really a very nice person, rather soft-spoken and espouses politics that I agree with. I did not want to watch the disaster that happened, but she is certainly in the HRC group. There, we part ways, at least for now.

[Skwmom]

7. She would not have egged on the crowd if she was soooo afraid. She was getting her footage for

the latest staged dog and pony show.

She didn't sound soft spoken to me.

[libdem4life]

10. Well, like I said, I have purposely not watched the tape.

Seems it was a day for getting riled up...speakers and attendees alike.

Also, she and DiFi are probably trying desperately to get out in front of the Sanders California appearance. For once, California votes matter in the outcome. That doesn't happen often, given the time difference and the media's penchant for "calling it". That should not be allowed.

So, I predict a very interesting race.

[Bobbie Jo]

5. Another "she asked for it" thread.

At this point, you're not helping.

[JTFrog]

11. Exactly.

But don't call BernieBros misogynistic or sexist.

[bjo59]

8. She obviously never feared for her safety. There's no such thing as lying

in this country anymore. The truth = whatever works.

[ymetca]

9. I thought what she told Chris Matthews was hilarious..

Gosh if I hadn't had 7 or 8 security people around me I might have been really scared. Wow. A real one percenter.

[AgingAmerican]

12. Everyone backing Hillary is a liar

Sad, sad what they have become

[J_J_]

15. It is really sad that so many Americans are willing to lie and cheat to get their way

It really is depressing how many people are willing to sell their souls for money.

So many Hillary people sound just like the Bush voters 2000 and 2004- 'you lost-get over it'

But since they are cheating, and Hillary most likely outsourced most of her comments...

Most of these people are not even Americans, Most Americans want nothing to do with her...so perhaps it isn't as bad as it looks.

This is all about manufacturing consent.

It is now a war between the corporate media and the American people, and they are willing to do anything to win.

[TheKentuckian]

13. I'm afraid so I antagonized doesn't add up too well, sounds more like Zimmerman excuse making to me.

I think it was her willful intent to kick the Hornets nest, likely to draw a reaction they could lie and hammer on just as we've seen.

[Autumn]

14. It's privilege you see. A wealthy powerful white woman fearing for her safety with a line of

policemen standing in front of her, guarding her. Unless I looked at the wrong video since I have been away from the internet for a few days and am trying to catch up on the latest outrage and meme du jour.

[Skwmom]

20. It makes a mockery of people who really need to fear for their safety.

[Autumn]

23. Yes it does, and it a shame to see the democrats do things like this.

I'm embarrassed and feel like a fool for having ever supported these people.

[senz]

16. Would I TAUNT delegates who are in shock over their vote being taken from them?

Only if I were a comfortably wealthy, protected power-holder with a distinctly sadistic bent.

I used to think only rightwingers fit that description. Then I met the Hillary campaign.

[J_J_]

21. yes, I lost all respect for her

now I know she is just one of the enablers that pretend to be progressives while allowing the elite to get away with everything.

[senz]

22. This campaign has been a tremendous eye-opener.

[azurnoir]

17. I don't think so and IMO that is why when she's on teevee selling how frightened she was

they do not show any video of her actually speaking

[senz]

18. She was crowing. She was rubbing it in.

She was not the least bit scared.

[azurnoir]

19. No she wasn't in fact she was sort of egging them on IMO

[senz]

26. The DNC wanted to incite Bernie supporters. Part of the dirty campaigning.

Have you seen this thread? It spells out how they accomplished this dirty trick.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511986017

Very informative and thought-provoking.

[Waiting For Everyman]

24. Nope. She taunted the crowd, and was even belligerent about it.

Then she went on tv and lied about it, smearing them. Barbie is crap in my book.

Oh, and edit to add: this is just mindblowing. It's video of her leaving the location, blowing fake kisses at them and pretty sure the middle finger at the end.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016157265#post1

[Lizzie Poppet]

30. Exactly.

Then whined about it...what a clown shoe.

[ljm2002]

25. Of course not!

She was clearly enjoying riling up the crowd.

[LexVegas]

27. There it is. nt

[apcalc]

28. Barbara Boxer is speaking for herself...NOT YOU.

what you would do, or now think you would say or feel , is irrelevant.

[Tarc]

29. This is the textbook Men's Rights Activism "if you don't want to hear catcalls in public...

...don't wear a short skirt" defense. A close cousin to "asking for it".


The Sanders camp is doubling down today...

[azmom]

31. She did not seem fearful at all.

She seemed frustrated and angry.

[LonePirate]

32. This seems like a blame/shame the victim thread.

[Autumn]

33. You are really calling Boxer a victim...

OT here but I'm glad to see you have ended your pretense of being a Bernie supporter, so many here have tried it but can't seem to carry it off. Kudos to you.

[LonePirate]

36. I think you are blinded by irrational partisanship. Invective was certainly directed at her.

If you want claim she was lying about being scared, that's a different discussion.

Oh, it's a shame there are not more reasonable Bernie voters like myself who aren't afraid to call out bad behavior, regardless of who perpetrates it.

[Autumn]

37. Invective? Yeah cause that's the same fucking thing as being scared

You people are cracking me up with this nonsense.

I think it's a shame there are not more Hillary supporters who aren't afraid to call out bad behavior. But none of you do.

[J_J_]

34. It's called telling the truth

Have you seen this video?

https://mobile.twitter.com/TrampyKnight/status/733288848008978432

Do you still think she was scared?


Now that we know she was lying, the question is why?

[Sheepshank]

35. If I were Boxer, I would be shining a bright light on the problem

..oh wait....