Will Hillary agree to debate Bernie on Fox News prior to the CA primary?

[beaglelover]

Will Hillary agree to debate Bernie on Fox News prior to the CA primary?

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	3 (14%)
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	19 (86%)
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[auntpurl]

1. I wouldn't have thought so, no.

Why should she? This thing is over. And it's Fox. Blergh.

[NWCorona]

2. Yes Hillary will debate before California

There's no way she would risk how that will look by not debating before the biggest state in the union.

[joshcryer]

7. Yeah, even if she didn't want to...

...she really has no choice. She'd be smeared as evil, etc.

[NWCorona]

9. The evil thing wouldn't stick but she would definitely be called out.

[joshcryer]

15. Everything she does is under incredibly critical optics.

And that's why every time Sanders demands debates she has acquiesced. Though part of me thinks she enjoys the challenge.

[JonLeibowitz]

45. The only reason this debate exists is because Hillary demanded a NH debate

and the Sanders terms was to schedule more debates. I hope that clears up your evident confusion.

[joshcryer]

49. Oh, the debate Sanders team threatened not to go to?

And every single time there was talk of extended debates and town halls Clinton was said she wouldn't go, but she went to every one?

[JonLeibowitz]

56. Clinton asked for a debate, Sanders asked for 3 more; there was hesitation on Clinton's part

on accepting the counter, not on Sanders' part. In no way is asking for more debates saying that you will not debate. To claim that would be pretzel logic not even worthy of a response.

[joshcryer]

57. No, Sanders camp threatened to skip.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/267942-sanders-wont-debate-thursday-unless-clinton-agrees-to-future

Clinton camp agreed to all demands.

[JonLeibowitz]

58. My reading of that is quite different from yours, is the mildest way to put it.

[joshcryer]

60. And everyone else apparently.

[NCTraveler]

3. I would hope not.

Sanders and Weaver are fomenting hate. She should not appease them in any way at this point unless they make drastic changes. Someone is going to get seriously hurt. Sanders and Weaver themselves are fomenting it.

[libdem4life]

28. Wow. Fomenting hate. Appeasing. Seriously get hurt.

Exaggerate much? I don't want to mention the other option.

[NCTraveler]

33. Not exagerating at all.

It has gotten so bad that Sanders supporters are saying some guy was only threatening to throw a chair. It's pretty pathetic when that is the fall back answer. He was only threating to hurt people.

[libdem4life]

37. This is not a "one note Samba" here. Good lord that horse has been

beaten to a merciful death. Both "chairs" were out of order. Get it? The Chair behind the podium...I'm sure you get it.

[NCTraveler]

40. Might have been a wee bit of instigation. Not like that is difficult with the Sanders crowd.

He only threatened violence. That is one of the best lines I have ever heard. Mainly because the person who typed it thought it made the person look good.

[libdem4life]

44. Yeah, the Victim Card again. Have no clue which "best line" you were

referring to, but you don't change horses (delegate rules) in midstream (delegate convention) without some flailing around (people caught off guard and perhaps wrongly refused).

Perhaps there was a symbolism in the "Chair". And perhaps there was a lot of instigating incited by both "Chairs."

But I'm one of the "Sanders Crowd". How would I know anything? We just love to get violent...it's what we do. Get serious.

But then again, I can't imagine what the HRC Crowd is going to do if some rulings (deemed unfair) come down from the FBI's investigation. And that's not just some confusion in the rules.

[NCTraveler]

50. What are you talking about "victim card"?

That is another trend coming from Sanders supporters. Telling people they are playing the victim card. It has been a cornerstone of Rush for over a decade. Talking about progressives playing the victim card. Too many similarities in verbiage.

Show me where I played the victim card.

Additionally, you shouldn't call it a fucking card even if I was claiming to be a victim. That has been the go to for abusers for decades. Mock victims and diminish it by calling it a card. Not saying it has never occurred, but in this instance I didn't present myself as a victim in any way at all and you throw out that bullshit.

[joshcryer]

4. She has not turned down a debate.

[Mike Nelson]

5. No, no, no...

...we've seen enough. It's OVER.

[boston bean]

6. Hillary should NEVER agree to debate the nasty false accuser.

Let him moan and groan some more.

[NWCorona]

11. I hope Hillary takes your advice!

[riversedge]

13. Sanders camp should have consulted with the Hillary camp before he publicly agreed. But

he did not. it is the usual way of Sanders camp--go public with 'news' or hold a press conference. Confrontation is his style.

[tokenlib]

8. I'd say no..but if they think he may bolt the party?

Then they might do it to try and destroy him somehow. They already seem to think his supporters are expendable.

[msongs]

17. umm if he 'bolts the party" he will be making a liar out of himself = self destruction nt

[tokenlib]

21. After the way DWS, the DNC, the corporate media, etc........

...have behaved, a case could be made...just saying that some would advocate that..

[Algernon Moncrieff]

38. He's been I-VT for years, so in itself that's not a big threat

If you are saying he'll run as an Indy, "Sore Loser" laws in several states could make it difficult for him to get on the ballots. OK, so people write him in. It becomes a serious longshot at that point that he does anything other than get Trump elected. So then he returns to the Senate. How's that working out? Will he caucus with the GOP? Because he might as well not caucus with the Dems at that point. He'll be invisible -- especially when it comes to committee assignments.

[salinsky]

10. Bernie should realize he's being trolled by FAUX News ...

Hillary has the primary wrapped up at this point.

FAUX News couldn't possibly have ulterior motives here, could they?

Like say, exploiting the fractures in Democratic party unity??

Maybe, Bernie does realize he's being trolled and just doesn't care.

[apcalc]

29. Agree 100%

This debate serves no GOOD purpose....Fox news set up.....total BS.

[libdem4life]

39. Maybe for once, California voters don't want to be the "us, too voters".

You know, after all the media has "called it." It is depressing to take a day off work, if necesary, and go vote for your candidate, knowing s/he has already conceded.

[salinsky]

43. Who said anything about conceding? ...

... he can stay in as long as he likes, but Hillary certainly is no longer under any obligation to debate him, or even really to acknowledge him at this point.

He's just doing damage to his own legacy.

[libdem4life]

46. Would "telling him to step down" be more intellectually convincing?

No, she's not. Her word doesn't count when she's "winning" so under no obligation to anone else. And she did agree.

So, I'm going to guess her refusal will hurt her in California. As in another of my posts, California is happy to actually have a "say" in this election. Usually it's already been called before many of us are even off work.

Pretty sure there will be a California debate.

[riversedge]

12. She just gave a strong interview on CNN. Not sure Sanders is up to it. He would get

frustrated. start yelling, swing his arms, point his fingers. Lets not embarrass him again.

[libdem4life]

47. Then why not encourage it? It could bring him down, right?

[riversedge]

52. no, Democrats need a strong image now-not Sanders image

[libdem4life]

54. I'd actually be for HRC if it weren't for the mess that is still rotting

out there. Seriously. Between the FBI and the white hot Republican hate, and likely impeachment proceedings, I wouldn't call that a strong image.

Once the aides are deposed, we'll know more. Maybe it will just go away. Now that's what would be Great for the nation. Prove all of that crap unfounded, false, innocent mistakes...whatever, that's what will restore the Democratic Image.

[riversedge]

55. Some truth

to what you say. But I have faith that Hillary is speaking truthfully.

[libdem4life]

59. We'll all know, at least what we are meant to know, soon.

[griffi94]

14. Bernies campaign is no longer credible

So there's no reason to waste any time debating him.

And Fox News...ugh.

[Hortensis]

23. It's major attention time on the Democrats.

i'm not saying she'll do it, but it's not obvious to me that she shouldn't. She has always done well against him.

It could be a win-win but obviously would depend on his behavior. Obviously there is nothing to be gained for her by allowing him to parade his defiance and hostility alongside her on stage, much less giving him a national stage for his egregious, rabble-rousing lies that the election is being stolen from him and "the people." I'd love to listen in as they discussed whether he could be trusted to keep his word this time.

[griffi94]

24. At this point I don't trust Bernie not to melt down

He'd go to ranting incoherently about the Establishment
and Wall Street and stolen elections.

No. There's not enough to be gained.

[Hortensis]

25. Melt down? IMO, it would be entirely premeditated,

and probably not at all incoherent but very carefully crafted and practiced. Of course, it might be that he might decide to just seize a moment and go for it.

Whatever. Thank goodness I don't have to make these decisions and lay awake worrying. I used to be able to handle stress pretty coolly, but these people have to be far, far tougher than I ever was.

[msongs]

16. fox? the trump/sanders campaign ganging up against her on fox? nt

[obamanut2012]

18. No, and she shouldn't

I hope she sticks to her gins and doesn't.

[AtomicKitten]

19. Well, she agreed to debate in Calif to get one in Michigan so, SPOILER ALERT, she was lying.

Clinton, Sanders agree to debates in Michigan and California
02/03/16 http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/02/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-debates-michigan-california-218691

The campaigns for Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton have agreed to additional debates in Michigan, California and another unspecified location.

[carburyme]

20. What's the point?

It's over!

Hillary don't do it!

Bernie's feeding off the Hillary-hate to try to get final exposure to suck up much needed dollars from his delusional supporters.

[IdaBriggs]

22. No. The more she talks, the more she drops. nt

[ViseGrip]

26. She said she would so I think she will. It will make her tumble further.

[apcalc]

27. For what purpose? Sure as hell hope not. It's over....

n

[BootinUp]

30. Hillary says she WILL be the nominee... the primary is done nt

[Algernon Moncrieff]

31. Notwithstanding anything else: Democrats/Liberals/Progressives should not appear on FOX

Just like the Republicans have chosen not to have debates on certain non-FOX outlets.

[BeyondGeography]

32. Fox is a very bad idea

They're all-in for Trump and will do their utmost to damage Hillary. A good debate would be fine. Not possible w/Fox.

[timlot]

34. No more Debates. Time to run the clock out on Bernie.

No need for Hillary top subject herself to Bernie's juvenile supporters in the audience hooting and holler everything he mentions the "The Big Banks" and "Campaign contributions". While booing her when she says we all need to come together.

[JanetLovesObama]

35. HELL NO

She better not waste her precious time with "him'. We all know his one talking point by heart and in our nightmares and we do NOT need to hear it again .... EVER.

[Agschmid]

36. No probably not.

[MariaThinks]

41. Are Bernie supporters Fox news watchers now?

Maybe they were all along.

Makes sense to me and explains so much.

[Eric J in MN]

61. I don't usually watch Fox News, but I watched the town hall

...with Sanders and Clinton, and I thought it was fair.

[workinclasszero]

42. Why?

Sanders lost.

[libdem4life]

48. When? Did the FBI Lady Sing Yet?

[mac56]

51. You're suffering from "Premature Administration."

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

53. No. She's stockpiling her CYA statements for Trump.

[The Second Stone]

62. No debates on Fox, and no debates with a candidate who is all but

mathematically eliminated. So no.