2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNew Jersey Primary: HRC: 54% BS: 40%
Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leads Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders in the New Jersey primary that could guarantee the Democratic front-runner a first-ballot victory in July.
Clinton was ahead of Sanders among likely Democratic primary voters, 54 percent to 40 percent, in the Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday. The state votes June 7, almost at the end of the 2016 primary season.
New Jersey will send 142 delegates to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, and Clinton needs just 90 more to clinch the nomination, according to the Associated Press.
"Senator Bernie Sanders hangs in there, but New Jersey looks solid for Secretary Hillary Clinton," said Maurice Carroll, assistant director of the Quinnipiac poll in Hamden, Conn. "Some people are 'feeling the Bern.' But in New Jersey, the Bern is lukewarm at best."
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/05/whos_leading_in_polls_as_nj_primary_approaches.html
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)book_worm
(15,951 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Works in finance.
Derp.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)70%?
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)But I've long lived in a reality based world. Living in the Bush world where they created their own reality kind of firmed that position up for me.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)#berniemath
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)"If anything caucuses could double"
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)They're counting on the indictment fairy and superdelegates to save him.
You know the superdelegates, right? The same ones Bernie and his supporters call undemocratic.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)There's no reason to think NJ won't vote as PA and NY have. Always been a solid state for Hillary, I think.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Every bank and law firm and auditor has a cafeteria: cooks, support personnel, dishwashers.
Every bank and law firm and auditor has a security desk and security guards.
Every bank and law firm and auditor employs hundreds, even thousands of secretaries, many of whom have a high school diploma and perhaps a secretarial school certificate.
Every bank and law firm and auditor has a mail room.
Every bank and law firm and auditor has an IT operation.
Every bank and law firm and auditor has vast operations departments where people from all walks of life work.
The Bernie campaign and its supporters have chosen a thin slice of Wall Street workers to vilify: the greedy investment bankers and upper managers. Let's say it: some of these people are, indeed, villains.
But "Wall Street" is a vast industry with hundreds of thousands either employed directly or working in support roles (the financial printers, the caterers, the little shops dotting Broad Street that sell sandwiches, the shoe shine and repair businesses, etc., etc., etc.). It is also the route to a middle class income and life for hundreds of thousands. The secretary who grew up in working class Queens and went to an 18 month secretarial certificate program after high school at St. Something-or-Other in North Flushing and took a job at Goldman at 19, and works there 20 years later, still, making about $85,000 a year? She lives in one of the north Jersey commuter towns on the Raritan line with her husband, who works at Donnelly in print production. They've built a life around "Wall Street."
Is it a bad life? Is it a terrible thing?
That's what the Sandersites tell them. They're trash. Their jobs need to be "broken up." The lives they've built are not worthwhile. Sanders is going to get shellacked in North Jersey. And for his simplistic and stupid rhetoric, he deserves to be.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Middle class Jersey girls working as secretaries and assistants to the traders.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Same point, though.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Thanks for correction!
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)Hillary will win it quite handily.
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)oh, wait...