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book_worm

(15,951 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:01 AM May 2016

New Jersey Primary: HRC: 54% BS: 40%

Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leads Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders in the New Jersey primary that could guarantee the Democratic front-runner a first-ballot victory in July.

Clinton was ahead of Sanders among likely Democratic primary voters, 54 percent to 40 percent, in the Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday. The state votes June 7, almost at the end of the 2016 primary season.

New Jersey will send 142 delegates to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, and Clinton needs just 90 more to clinch the nomination, according to the Associated Press.

"Senator Bernie Sanders hangs in there, but New Jersey looks solid for Secretary Hillary Clinton," said Maurice Carroll, assistant director of the Quinnipiac poll in Hamden, Conn. "Some people are 'feeling the Bern.' But in New Jersey, the Bern is lukewarm at best."

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/05/whos_leading_in_polls_as_nj_primary_approaches.html

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New Jersey Primary: HRC: 54% BS: 40% (Original Post) book_worm May 2016 OP
K&R! stonecutter357 May 2016 #1
Yes good news. book_worm May 2016 #2
Great news! workinclasszero May 2016 #3
When you shit on Wall Street for a year and half north Jersey alcibiades_mystery May 2016 #4
If NJ is 10-15 pts, how much will he need in CA? firebrand80 May 2016 #5
100% by that point with other contests that day. Blue_Adept May 2016 #6
So, there's still a chance? grossproffit May 2016 #7
There's always a chance! :) Blue_Adept May 2016 #8
Always! workinclasszero May 2016 #9
That's hilarious firebrand80 May 2016 #12
This never gets old. Bernarious! grossproffit May 2016 #18
LOL Cali_Democrat May 2016 #20
Bernie and his supporters know that he can't get a majority of pledged delegates Cali_Democrat May 2016 #22
Great news. auntpurl May 2016 #10
"Some people are 'feeling the Bern.' But in New Jersey, the Bern is lukewarm at best." DCBob May 2016 #11
Who works on "Wall Street?" alcibiades_mystery May 2016 #13
Yeah.. reminds me of the movie Working Girl. DCBob May 2016 #14
I think they were from Staten Island alcibiades_mystery May 2016 #15
Really.. somehow I always thought they were from New Jersey with the accent and all. DCBob May 2016 #19
Great post. auntpurl May 2016 #16
Sanders won't win my state. Beacool May 2016 #17
Don't worry, that will totally turn around when Bernie explains the details of his plans anotherproletariat May 2016 #21

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
8. There's always a chance! :)
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:23 AM
May 2016

But I've long lived in a reality based world. Living in the Bush world where they created their own reality kind of firmed that position up for me.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
22. Bernie and his supporters know that he can't get a majority of pledged delegates
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:24 PM
May 2016

They're counting on the indictment fairy and superdelegates to save him.

You know the superdelegates, right? The same ones Bernie and his supporters call undemocratic.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
10. Great news.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:25 AM
May 2016

There's no reason to think NJ won't vote as PA and NY have. Always been a solid state for Hillary, I think.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
13. Who works on "Wall Street?"
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:57 AM
May 2016

Every bank and law firm and auditor has a cafeteria: cooks, support personnel, dishwashers.
Every bank and law firm and auditor has a security desk and security guards.
Every bank and law firm and auditor employs hundreds, even thousands of secretaries, many of whom have a high school diploma and perhaps a secretarial school certificate.
Every bank and law firm and auditor has a mail room.
Every bank and law firm and auditor has an IT operation.
Every bank and law firm and auditor has vast operations departments where people from all walks of life work.

The Bernie campaign and its supporters have chosen a thin slice of Wall Street workers to vilify: the greedy investment bankers and upper managers. Let's say it: some of these people are, indeed, villains.

But "Wall Street" is a vast industry with hundreds of thousands either employed directly or working in support roles (the financial printers, the caterers, the little shops dotting Broad Street that sell sandwiches, the shoe shine and repair businesses, etc., etc., etc.). It is also the route to a middle class income and life for hundreds of thousands. The secretary who grew up in working class Queens and went to an 18 month secretarial certificate program after high school at St. Something-or-Other in North Flushing and took a job at Goldman at 19, and works there 20 years later, still, making about $85,000 a year? She lives in one of the north Jersey commuter towns on the Raritan line with her husband, who works at Donnelly in print production. They've built a life around "Wall Street."

Is it a bad life? Is it a terrible thing?

That's what the Sandersites tell them. They're trash. Their jobs need to be "broken up." The lives they've built are not worthwhile. Sanders is going to get shellacked in North Jersey. And for his simplistic and stupid rhetoric, he deserves to be.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
14. Yeah.. reminds me of the movie Working Girl.
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

Middle class Jersey girls working as secretaries and assistants to the traders.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
19. Really.. somehow I always thought they were from New Jersey with the accent and all.
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:20 PM
May 2016

Thanks for correction!

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