Hillary Goes Silent on Gun Control...While George Zimmerman Profits

[Cosmic Kitten]

It is an OUTRAGE that Hillary
is silent on the tragic epidemic
of gun violence.

After all her attention she gave
to the victims of gun violence
she is completely absent on the
recent grotesque auction of the
gun that murdered Travon Martin.

George Zimmerman's auction topped
out at OVER $120,000....
and Hillary hasn't made a peep about
this horrifying profiting from murder.

Hillary MUST speak out about the
miscarriage of justice and the
atrocious profiting from the misery
of the family concerned.

[MrWendel]

1. Cause ....

Bernie won't.

[procon]

2. You omitted Sanders... given his stance on guns, why is he missing? nt

[Cosmic Kitten]

4. Gun contol and gun violence is Hillary territory

Nobody cares what Sanders thinks....
Hillary is the nominee.

She needs to pivot to the GE
and speak out loudly about gun violence.
Hillary needs to crack down on those
2nd amendment gun nuts NOW!

Hillary's silence could come off as
either indifference or complicity?

[procon]

16. Are you joking?

What are you talking about?

Do you even know her position on gun violence prevention? She has a long record on supporting gun control efforts, so you're making wild accusations that have no basis in fact.

And look here, if you think that any president has the unilateral powers to "crack down on those 2nd amendment gun nuts", you don't even know how laws are made. Get rid of the Republican majority in congress if you ever want to see gun control happen.

You know that Hillary isn't the nominee yet, and she can't "pivot to the GE" because Sanders is still running his con game and attacking her in the primaries.

Maybe yere you just having a bad day, but this thread was a bad idea and it looks a bit unhinged.

[jack_krass]

23. Nobody knows her position, as changes often. I see a shift towards "Annie Oakley" for the GE

[procon]

34. I know it, and anyone else who wants to find out, knows her position too.

What you're saying is that YOU don't know it, and YOU don't want to learn anything more. You're more interested in tagging her with derogatory labels to prop up your confirmation biases than finding out your cherished idioms might be flawed.

I can't wrap my brain around this level of deliberate, wilful ignorance, it's just an appalling attitude for any reasonable adult to maintain such a fiction in the face of all the information to the contrary that's readily available to everyone.

[jack_krass]

38. What fiction FFS. Last primary, agaonst O, she was defendng the goddam 2nd ammendment,

I remember it well, even the fake southern drawl. This primary, shes calling Sandars an NRA lackey, and pandering to the anti giun movement.

I truly dont know what to expect.

[procon]

39. At the risk of repeating myself; If you really wanted to know...

Don't try to make a cogent argument until you're better prepared. Then you wont have to say trifling things like, "I truly dont know what to expect."

[jack_krass]

40. #WhichHillary

Is it too much to exect a politician to be consistent, especially on issues as important as gun policy?

[procon]

42. See my previous reply above. nt

[jack_krass]

43. ...

[anotherproletariat]

31. Good to know...I guess I supported the right person then. nt

[NashuaDW]

36. What exactly would you like for her to do?

Keeping in mind she is not an office-holder at any level, and has no executive powers.

She can speak out ... but that would alienate a large portion of the electorate.

As has been pointed out, Zimmerman was acquitted by a jury, ... that makes him a free man entitled to sell his possessions like anyone else.

Classy - No
Legal - Yes

[jzodda]

3. I disagree

I wouldn't mention it at all if I were her. To do so would elevate that scumbag Zimmerman in a way that would only make him more popular with the loons.

He and his actions don't deserve any media coverage at all. It only helps him make more money.

HRC had talked about gun violence for decades. I am sure she will continue to do so.

[Cosmic Kitten]

5. So she should ignore the obscenity and hurt to the Martin family?

It's bad optics to ignore the family
of such tragic gun violence ...

particularly when she used them
as a symbol of the need for gun control.

[obamanut2012]

7. Trayvon's mother is publicly campaigning for Hillary

So, I'm sure she is rightly taking their lead on this.

Nice try, though.

[lunamagica]

10. Travon's mother was on the news last night...

This amazing lady has a sense of inner peace thats just amazing.

She doesn't need any attention devoted to Zimmerman. It's not about him

[LanternWaste]

18. No more and no less than Sanders is also doing

"So she should ignore the obscenity and hurt to the Martin family?"

No more and no less than Sanders is also doing. Though I'm sure a creative justification Sanders' own righteous silence will be forthcoming quickly.

[randome]

6. Politically, this is a no-win situation.

Zimmerman was found innocent and he's entitled to sell any of his private possessions. He is a monster, imo, but the law says otherwise, at least for now.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[Lizzie Poppet]

8. Zimmerman's profiting is less a gun control issue than it is a douchebgag issue.

No gun control proposal short of a complete ban on civilian possession would have prevented that assclown from buying a gun. This is really just a matter of a shithead being a shithead.

But yeah: Hillary's already started her lurch to the right. We won't be hearing much about gun control out of Camp Weathervane for the next few months. It'll probably surprise posters that know me that I'm not happy about that. Yes, I'm a gun owner (and a competition shooter, in fact)...but I very much support a number of additional gun control measures. That said, it's probably best to push to enact many of these on the state level, like the universal background check law we recently enacted here in Oregon.

[Cosmic Kitten]

9. I guess that shines a light on her insincerity about gun violence?

Hillary's silence is remarkable.

It's bad optics to ignore the victims
she proclaims to care about.

[Lizzie Poppet]

11. Perhaps so.

I tend to see Hillary's "sincerity" largely only in matters of direct benefit to Hillary...but I also acknowledge that that's probably a harsh judgement on my part.

[Actor]

28. If Michael Jordan could streeeeeetch this much he would have been able to do his

lay ups from mid court.

[pinebox]

12. Well who's shocked? She held fundraisers with NRA lobbyists afterall

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

13. She probably laughed at the puny selling price ...

... she could fill a couple of holsters with the payoffs from one lousy speech.

Zimmerman, phhht!

[QC]

14. This is the "pivot" that we hear so much about.

Gotta lurch rightward for the general election campaign, you know.

[FlatBaroque]

19. I am becoming irrationaly upset at the word "pivot"

It's a useful word. I played basketball and learned to pivot. I use Excel spreadsheet's pivot table function, but I don't think they should use such a good word to describe what essentially means..."Yeah I said that before but tough shit if you believed me cuz I gotta lie to some other people now."

[QC]

24. It's kinda of like the way "pragmatism," a perfectly respectable word,

get redefined into "an utter lack of convictions."

[Sheepshank]

15. Pathetic..searching for fault

and this is why you have no credibility

Why are you giving Zimmerman the publicity he craves?

[frylock]

17. Yeah, she kinda clammed up on that during her Western swing.

I wonder why that is?

[QC]

25. In Pennsylvania, too.

I used to live there. In my neck of the woods, public schools closed for the first day of deer season.

[frylock]

33. This was predicted.

If she makes it to the GE, you won't hear a word about gun control from Annie Oakley.

[NCTraveler]

20. Zimmerman is out there stating that Sybrina Fulton didn't raise her children properly.

Sybrina Fulton is out there campaigning for Clinton and working her ass off to make sure her son didn't die in vain.

And here you are trying to make a mockery of the situation to serve yourself.

You sound very similar to one of the people mentioned above.

[Sunlei]

21. Trayvon Martins Mother campaigns for Mrs. Clinton.

Sorry, you'll have to spam your "outrage" of the day in another direction.

[Ferd Berfel]

22. CLinton wants to replace Progressives/Liberals with republicans in Nov.

so she has to triangulate around this one.

[KingFlorez]

27. Clinton is for gun control

That's been a key talking point of hers this campaign and Trayvon Martin's mother has campaigned for her. I don't believe that Bernie Sanders has ever spoken out against George Zimmerman or reached out to Martin's family.

[riversedge]

29. You are silly to say the least. listen to her stump speeches. she speaks of the gun epidemic

Loud and clear. Your op makes you look foolish and shows how out of touch you are with her policies.

[themaguffin]

32. It's an OUTRAGE I tell ya. All caps outrage.

[aspirant]

35. An individual gun seller

vs a State Dept international arms seller, Hmmm.

[Blue_Tires]

37. gun control is a losing issue, remember??

[riversedge]

41. Bernie Sanders' gun record is a problem. Willful ignorance of how that affects his own state is why

The #BernieLostme hashtag is bringing up some good ones.


BrindaDWhoreEstrella ?@BrindaStar 20h20 hours ago

Bernie Sanders' gun record is a problem. Willful ignorance of how that affects his own state is why #BernieLostMe

[Persondem]

44. Cats and dogs dying by the thousands!! Sanders keeps silent. Oh the horror!!

Yeah, it's actually a real thing.
Each year, approximately 2.7 million animals are euthanized (1.2 million dogs and 1.4 million cats).