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DanM

(341 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:27 AM May 2016

NV convention was a sham, video doesn't lie!

Really smh at those in the establishment, media, "fact-checkers" (yes, in quotes for a reason), etc. saying "move along, nothing to see here".

The video is quite clear. Democracy was subverted at the Nevada convention.

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NV convention was a sham, video doesn't lie! (Original Post) DanM May 2016 OP
Yep. That first vote where they voted on the rules, totally fake. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #1
Video is great 'cause everyone can see what a sham it was, there's no opportunity for spin! DanM May 2016 #2
People who get their news from the internet and view first hand info, support Bernie. Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #3
Eye witnesses are good, but video is worth a thousand eye-witnesses! n/t DanM May 2016 #6
Yet they're still spinning. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #4
Maddening and completely inexplicable! Well, there is an explanation . . . n/t DanM May 2016 #7
What temporary rules did the BSers object to and why? Praytell, inform us all! boston bean May 2016 #5
The cutoff time to join the convention was 10 am. Lange was making rule changes at 9:30 while jillan May 2016 #8
oh really? boston bean May 2016 #9
What does your response mean? Sounds like you are calling me a liar. jillan May 2016 #10
The rules state that the convention is called to order at 9am. joshcryer May 2016 #12
The convention was called to order at 9:00am. joshcryer May 2016 #11
WRONG! Read the official instructions from Nevada. jillan May 2016 #13
The convention was CALLED TO ORDER at 9am. joshcryer May 2016 #14
But people had until 10 am to sign in! Only an ahole would hold votes while people were signing in jillan May 2016 #16
Only lazy people wait until after it's been called to order... joshcryer May 2016 #17
The point isn't the content of the rules, it is how FAKE the voting result . . . DanM May 2016 #18
"Ignore the fact-checkers" should have been Bernie's campaign theme. YouDig May 2016 #15
That certainly applies to "fact-check" orgs who are also big dollar contributors to Hillary . . . DanM May 2016 #19
More conspiracy theories. Keep 'em coming. YouDig May 2016 #20
No, a conspiracy theory is imagining something like a . . . DanM May 2016 #24
Youtube videos are how I figured out 9/11 was a collective hallucination PeaceNikki May 2016 #21
Do you have family or friends nearby who can do a welfare check? frylock May 2016 #22
lol PeaceNikki May 2016 #23
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
3. People who get their news from the internet and view first hand info, support Bernie.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:09 AM
May 2016

People who get their news from TV, filtered through the corporate spin machine, they support Hillary.

The video is one thing, but we also have several credible eye witnesses who back it up.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
4. Yet they're still spinning.
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:11 AM
May 2016

The absolute disregard for what is on the video is maddening, both here and in the media.

boston bean

(36,222 posts)
5. What temporary rules did the BSers object to and why? Praytell, inform us all!
Thu May 19, 2016, 09:14 AM
May 2016

Maybe it was because they were there to disrupt only, and try to steal delegates from Hillary?

jillan

(39,451 posts)
8. The cutoff time to join the convention was 10 am. Lange was making rule changes at 9:30 while
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:20 AM
May 2016

people were still checking in.

It was not the rules themselves, it was the way it was done.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
10. What does your response mean? Sounds like you are calling me a liar.
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:27 AM
May 2016
https://johnlaurits.com/2016/05/15/what-happened-at-the-nevada-democratic-state-convention/

Yesterday morning, around 9:30AM (while many delegates were still in line to get in ), the leadership at the convention, led by Roberta Lange, decided to hold a quick “voice vote” (essentially, a shouting match between the two sides) about whether to change the rules of the convention.


joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
12. The rules state that the convention is called to order at 9am.
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:30 AM
May 2016

What you want to call someone claiming that it was out of order, well, that's up to you to decide, but it's certainly not true.

You can read the rules here: http://nvdems.3cdn.net/ea5a7f0df495b0cf4c_z2m6bnqh5.pdf

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
11. The convention was called to order at 9:00am.
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:28 AM
May 2016

They waited 40 minutes to do the rules (note the rules were not "changed" the temporary rules were voted to be made permanent).

The 10 am deadline was for late registrants.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
13. WRONG! Read the official instructions from Nevada.
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:41 AM
May 2016
http://nvdems.com/caucus/caucus-to-convention/

You will also need to complete the Delegate Intent Form/Statement of Candidacy by 10:00 am, Saturday, May 14th 2016.


That vote was held BEFORE the check-in time.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
16. But people had until 10 am to sign in! Only an ahole would hold votes while people were signing in
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:48 AM
May 2016

during the scheduled time to do so.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
17. Only lazy people wait until after it's been called to order...
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:51 AM
May 2016

...to register. They had like 12 hours to register. It's absurd.

 

DanM

(341 posts)
18. The point isn't the content of the rules, it is how FAKE the voting result . . .
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:08 PM
May 2016

. . . announced and recorded by the chairwoman was. Look at her body and facial language, how quickly she spoke and gaveled to get the sham into the record. And most telling of all, in seeing so many people not buying the sham she was trying to stuff down their throat, how quickly and obviously irritated she was in announcing and gaveling the close of the convention and how quickly she got the hell out of there.

Video don't lie.

 

DanM

(341 posts)
19. That certainly applies to "fact-check" orgs who are also big dollar contributors to Hillary . . .
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:32 PM
May 2016

. . . Conflict-of-interest much?

 

DanM

(341 posts)
24. No, a conspiracy theory is imagining something like a . . .
Thu May 19, 2016, 06:03 PM
May 2016

"Right-wing conspiracy". Repugs are out to beat ALL Dems politically, as nastily as possible. It's repugnant, but normal, when nasty political people nastily go after their opponents. Elevating that to a "conspiracy" against your individual person is unwarranted.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
21. Youtube videos are how I figured out 9/11 was a collective hallucination
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

and the people who "died" are all living on Venus with the lizardmen whose leader is Barack Obama whose job here is to use the Bilderbergs to ship all of Earth's water to Venus.

If it's on the internet it can't be a lie after all.

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