Ralph Nader: Sanders Should Stay in Democratic Race, Is Only Losing Due to 'Anti-Democratic' System

[Baobab]

[JoePhilly]

1. That groundhog is back?

[BootinUp]

2. He's one of the few left that wants to talk about Bernie. nt

[hrmjustin]

3. Elections have winners and losers.

He lost. He tried very hard but he lost.

I know many of you don't like it but in a democracy we vote.

[FreakinDJ]

10. Remember that now that Hillary is polling behind Trump

[hrmjustin]

12. I am well aware she might not win but I believe she will.

[Baobab]

17. neoliberals use that phrase winners and losers a lot and with services liberalisation we're always

the losers.. they all agree we will be, it seems, because our wages, to them all, "have to fall" - a lot.

They want to do this by throwing open services to international competition, with government procurement, work will go to the lowest bidding firms from all over the world, and their workers. US firms wont win those bids. So our own tax money will be flowing overseas in huge amounts unless our wages fall way way down.. I would be willing to bet that this happens within two or three years. they have been planning it for more than a decade.. You can read about it in dozens of world organizations.. for example, the WTO if you Google on "disciplines on domestic regulation"

[hrmjustin]

18. Oh ok.

[Baobab]

23. Yup.. PM me if you want links.

its not secret..

[COLGATE4]

14. Yeah. I always get my reliable news from Fox. nt

[radical noodle]

4. Nader loves being a spoiler

[liberal_at_heart]

8. That argument doesn't work on the 42% of Americans that are Independents.

[Arazi]

13. Nader got 2.74% of the vote in 2000. He did not cost Gore the election.

http://disinfo.com/2010/11/debunked-the-myth-that-ralph-nader-cost-al-gore-the-2000-election/

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/6/1260721/-The-Nader-Myth

Gore lost his home state of TN and refused to let Bill Clinton campaign for him in Arkansas and lost there too.

Gore ran a bad campaign. He has always taken the responsibility for that.

[Baobab]

19. he wasnt progressive enough to GOTV

and then he tried to make up for it at the very end...after many people had given up on him and switched to Nader

[doc03]

5. Listen to Ralph Nader he knows all about losing elections for Democrats n/t

[liberal_at_heart]

9. Democrats know how to lose elections.

How many Senate, House, and governorships have we lost under the current leader of the Democratic Party? Is Nader to blame for all those losses as well? or is it just the voters fault for those losses? Anybody's fault but the party's right?

[demwing]

21. Ouch, that Berned! /nt

[Baobab]

20. His positions were a lot more progressive than Gore's

like Sanders, he's been proven right by time.

[JudyM]

6. Just noticed another Clinton lie.

She was at an LGBT event wearing a leather jacket and remarked it's the only leather clothing article she owns. This pic is a different leather jacket. Hmm.

[radical noodle]

11. Faux leather possibly? It's everywhere these days and looks very real

Or perhaps she got that after that particular event.

[JudyM]

15. If she didn't lie more often than not, I would give her the benefit of the doubt, too.

[AzDar]

7. Truth.

[SidDithers]

16. Fuck Ralph Nader...nt

Sid

[tabasco]

22. Fuck Ralph Nader. n/t

Sorry mf.

I support Sanders but fuck Ralph Nader!

[tandem5]

24. Fuck Ralph Nader

[RufusTFirefly]

25. Thanks Baobab! Your OP reminded me to update my Ignore list

Anyone who posts "Fuck Ralph Nader"?
Boom! I send them off to the cornfield.




I'm starting to realize that life is too damn short.


P.S. I am a lifelong Democrat. But probably not for much longer. A pity my party has left me.

[still_one]

27. I try to avoid that type of language, but feel free to add me to your ignore list

because I despise Nader.

[Baobab]

28. thats okay,

I don't.

[still_one]

29. ok by me

[still_one]

26. yeah right ralph. All those people who voted for Hillary don't count, huh? Ralph why don't

you take your multi-millions, that you made off your mutual funds, and go back to your irrelevancy

[eastwestdem]

30. When Nader starts giving you advice, it's time for some soul searching Bernie...

really.

[frylock]

31. As opposed to soliciting advise from Kissinger.