2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAccording to many Hill supporters here, she does NOT have experience in intentional relationships...
but was merely a mouthpiece and a conduit for Obama's policies
If she was just doing what Obama told her to do, how can we judge her on her own merits?
still_one
(92,219 posts)Though probably a dictionary would have been a better source
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Spell checkers can lull yew into a false cents of security.
still_one
(92,219 posts)source. I wonder if it will be corrected
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)tandem5
(2,072 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)She hid her rogue foreign policy from him on her private server, while getting intel from her own rogue and flawed sources.
So which is it?
If you say that Obama knew about all that and directed her, then he is a co-conspirator.
Can't have it both ways.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)which was all the time except for those times that she was a strong and forceful SoS.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)It's all very sick. Get money out of politics!!!
Bomb Yemen, bomb Palestine, bomb Iran! Like kids on a skateboard for the first time - pawns to an ancient family feud. And now, the big man baby Trump? Hillary at least still has her prom buddies.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)'we came, we saw, he died' sic
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)It's pretty much out in the open now (at least to the international community with 'news') that the US knew damn well that Bin Laden was in prison. He was dying. Al Queda was its own thing after, what - 2004-5? Some little fact that was known post 2009. A fucking disastrous publicity stunt, thank you SOS.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)and Free Republic.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)his craziness.
Here are some other links you might approve of: (and btw - where do you get your news?!)
The New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/12/magazine/the-detail-in-seymour-hershs-bin-laden-story-that-rings-true.html?_r=0
The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/may/09/osama-bin-laden-pakistan-pm-gilani
Democracy Now http://www.democracynow.org/2016/4/25/part_2_seymour_hershs_new_book
But I just googled that now. It was on France24, PressTV, RT - all those 'other'ness news outlets. You should cut yourself off cable immediately! Bad for the planet, bad for you!
still_one
(92,219 posts)there, but by others.
You want to wear the tin foil hat, that is your right, but I take Peter Bergen over Hersh anytime on this story
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/18/opinions/bergen-new-york-times-bin-laden-death/
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)still_one
(92,219 posts)Eko
(7,318 posts)just because of the misspelling gaff, it gave me a laugh, thanks.
still_one
(92,219 posts)it is ignoring the gaff
Yes, its funny
"bin laden was in a prison" ,, someone so passionate would probably either not see or just discount the misspelling, they have an agenda to promote dont ya know.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)and sorry if you can't see that - really really sorry
Eko
(7,318 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)okay, I don't know if your name is Shirley, and I'm not guessing you'll get that either! Intentional/International - Clinton doesn't seem to be able to separate the two. While she did right by distancing herself legally from the Clinton Foundation when she publicly geared up for her presidential run, you can't seriously believe she didn't have intentional relations with that (fill in the blank) state.
I find it amusing. I think your avatar would find it amusing too!
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)edit - got the name wrong - illusion was another slip!
still_one
(92,219 posts)Eko
(7,318 posts)intentional is not in the original quote you are referencing I'd say that is quite a stretch. I mean one could just as easily use pretty much any adjective and it would make just as much sense.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Eko
(7,318 posts)referencing Bill Clinton?
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Now, why would you think that? Oh forget it. I'll have to start charging you couch fees!!! JK!
you were, and now you have not been able to connect it with what you are saying. Any adjective would have worked but like I said you have an agenda.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Eko
(7,318 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Eko
(7,318 posts)Your remark is now erased somehow? You choosing an adjective, any old adjective and inserting into a quote to further smear someone is now negated? Give me a freaking break. I will be happy to engage you on both fronts, the cheeky one and the one where you used a misspelled gaffe to further your narrative. Will you stay or tell me to go to my room again as a way for you to run from the discussion we are having.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Eko
(7,318 posts)In quotes even.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)and anyways, look at the #'s of the posts - my continued Freudian slip is way down the list of what I was addressing. I thought you were in for a fun conversation given the hilarity of the OP, and the total random interjection of 'Airplane'. missing, as I had guessed the 'subliminal' intention of the OP but I was wrong. Oops. I mis-typed.
Eko
(7,318 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Eko
(7,318 posts)So,,,
Here's a little synopsis from the LA Times - but I found the political stuff around McCarthy and JFK (the meta story) super interesting
Nicolas Roeg's 1985 film "Insignificance," newly issued in standard and Blu-ray DVD editions by the Criterion Collection, has an irresistible premise that suggests a blind item from a parallel universe. Four characters identified only as the Actress, the Professor, the Ballplayer and the Senator but instantly recognizable, thanks to some none too subtle identifying traits, as Marilyn Monroe, Albert Einstein, Joe DiMaggio and Joseph McCarthy somehow converge in a Manhattan hotel room over the course of an eventful night in summer 1954.
As the film opens, the Actress (Roeg's then-wife, Theresa Russell) is shooting a scene that will soon be seared into the popular consciousness standing under a theater marquee as the wind from a subway grate blows up her billowing white chiffon dress. Roeg stages this moment, from Billy Wilder's "The Seven Year Itch," as an inside-Hollywood set piece, with bustling crew and gaping onlookers, including the guy operating the wind machine below, who blissfully claims to have seen "the face of God."
Done for the night, the breathy Actress instructs her chauffeur to drop her off at the hotel, where the frizzy-haired Professor (Michael Emil), clad in a Princeton sweatshirt, has been pacing absently amid a sheaf of papers. She appears to be seeking the companionship of a fellow lonely celebrity. But what she wants most of all is to act out for the Professor the theory of relativity, which she does by crawling around the floor of his room, using a flashlight, a toy train and some tin soldiers as props.
Eko
(7,318 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)apnu
(8,758 posts)They also seem to forget the times she traveled around the world a FLOTUS, Senator and a celebrity private citizen meeting international power brokers.
Its amazing what people will ignore.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)mia
(8,361 posts)She knows just what's she's doing. Sometimes it backfires, though.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)She'd show us perfection, if only all these other, lesser beings weren't constantly dragging her down, see?