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Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:16 PM May 2016

According to many Hill supporters here, she does NOT have experience in intentional relationships...

but was merely a mouthpiece and a conduit for Obama's policies

If she was just doing what Obama told her to do, how can we judge her on her own merits?

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According to many Hill supporters here, she does NOT have experience in intentional relationships... (Original Post) Luminous Animal May 2016 OP
Well intentional relationships are a problem, and so is not using the spell checker still_one May 2016 #1
The problem is that "intentional" is also a word. Nye Bevan May 2016 #5
Absolutely, and that is why I added a dictionary would have been a better still_one May 2016 #8
What's wrong with 'intentional'? I think that's pretty spot on. floppyboo May 2016 #9
Hey wait a minute I think you used the wrong words internationally. tandem5 May 2016 #19
except when she went behind his back to claim some glory. She's strong!!! Woot woot!!! floppyboo May 2016 #2
can't be so grasswire May 2016 #3
She was a strong and forceful SoS, except when she was doing O's bidding Luminous Animal May 2016 #4
makes you think some times that the monied Wahabist Saudis own them both. floppyboo May 2016 #6
well, we know how much the Sauds gave her. nt grasswire May 2016 #7
It's all sick, sick, sick floppyboo May 2016 #10
And someone has got to mention Bin Laden floppyboo May 2016 #11
You really need some better sources than Alex Jones COLGATE4 May 2016 #14
I actually have no idea what free republic is. Alex Jones, you'd have to be dead to not be aware of floppyboo May 2016 #16
seymour hersh has been discredited on that story. Not only by the Navy Seals who were still_one May 2016 #20
Seymour Hersh has been right about quite a lot that was originally mocked and dismissed. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #43
I am addressing this specific incident. still_one May 2016 #48
I had to rec this Eko May 2016 #12
and it seems some do not even realize what is wrong. It isn't the gaff that is the problem still_one May 2016 #13
Well, Eko May 2016 #15
bull fucking shit! I just think it was an appropriate Freudian slip floppyboo May 2016 #17
Appropriate how? Eko May 2016 #18
shirley, you jest! floppyboo May 2016 #21
Have you seen that flick Insignifigance? Brilliant! Einstien, Joe DiMagio and Marilyn - awesome! nt floppyboo May 2016 #23
Insignifigance, old movie, but good movie still_one May 2016 #28
seeing as how the word Eko May 2016 #25
I was referencing the OP, if that qualifies as a quote. Did I miss something? Please correct! floppyboo May 2016 #29
So your werent Eko May 2016 #30
huh? No! Just the SOS. Go wash your mind with soap! floppyboo May 2016 #33
No, Eko May 2016 #35
show me - give me my words back in quotes. If I said it, it was subliminal to me! floppyboo May 2016 #36
"didn't have intentional relations with that" Eko May 2016 #37
that remark was well after you started getting cheeky! Now, go to your room! floppyboo May 2016 #39
And that invalidates it? Eko May 2016 #41
oh, just forget about it. We are clearly not on the same page-Words do that sometimes-ticky bastards floppyboo May 2016 #38
There ya go Eko May 2016 #42
yup, but the Freud thing and the 'you guys don't get it' was too much fire bait to ignore... so... floppyboo May 2016 #44
But this was fun. Eko May 2016 #45
Yes, we are indeed not all the enemy! Cheers! floppyboo May 2016 #46
Cheers! Eko May 2016 #47
Yeah its from Airplane. Eko May 2016 #26
??? floppyboo May 2016 #31
shirley, you jest! Eko May 2016 #32
hey, don't call me Shirley! floppyboo May 2016 #34
Then those Hill supporters saying that have no idea what the SoS is or does. apnu May 2016 #22
I know super models who have done more - except they can publicly brag about getting in bed nt floppyboo May 2016 #24
Sure she does. mia May 2016 #27
Well, her mistakes and failings are always someone else's fault Scootaloo May 2016 #40
Trying to have it both ways. That's a popular move Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #49

still_one

(92,219 posts)
1. Well intentional relationships are a problem, and so is not using the spell checker
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:17 PM
May 2016

Though probably a dictionary would have been a better source

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
5. The problem is that "intentional" is also a word.
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:22 PM
May 2016

Spell checkers can lull yew into a false cents of security.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
8. Absolutely, and that is why I added a dictionary would have been a better
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:23 PM
May 2016

source. I wonder if it will be corrected

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
3. can't be so
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:17 PM
May 2016

She hid her rogue foreign policy from him on her private server, while getting intel from her own rogue and flawed sources.

So which is it?

If you say that Obama knew about all that and directed her, then he is a co-conspirator.

Can't have it both ways.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
4. She was a strong and forceful SoS, except when she was doing O's bidding
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:21 PM
May 2016

which was all the time except for those times that she was a strong and forceful SoS.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
6. makes you think some times that the monied Wahabist Saudis own them both.
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:23 PM
May 2016

It's all very sick. Get money out of politics!!!

Bomb Yemen, bomb Palestine, bomb Iran! Like kids on a skateboard for the first time - pawns to an ancient family feud. And now, the big man baby Trump? Hillary at least still has her prom buddies.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
11. And someone has got to mention Bin Laden
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:43 PM
May 2016

It's pretty much out in the open now (at least to the international community with 'news') that the US knew damn well that Bin Laden was in prison. He was dying. Al Queda was its own thing after, what - 2004-5? Some little fact that was known post 2009. A fucking disastrous publicity stunt, thank you SOS.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
16. I actually have no idea what free republic is. Alex Jones, you'd have to be dead to not be aware of
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:18 AM
May 2016

his craziness.
Here are some other links you might approve of: (and btw - where do you get your news?!)
The New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/12/magazine/the-detail-in-seymour-hershs-bin-laden-story-that-rings-true.html?_r=0
The Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/may/09/osama-bin-laden-pakistan-pm-gilani
Democracy Now http://www.democracynow.org/2016/4/25/part_2_seymour_hershs_new_book

But I just googled that now. It was on France24, PressTV, RT - all those 'other'ness news outlets. You should cut yourself off cable immediately! Bad for the planet, bad for you!

still_one

(92,219 posts)
20. seymour hersh has been discredited on that story. Not only by the Navy Seals who were
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:40 AM
May 2016

there, but by others.

You want to wear the tin foil hat, that is your right, but I take Peter Bergen over Hersh anytime on this story

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/18/opinions/bergen-new-york-times-bin-laden-death/

still_one

(92,219 posts)
13. and it seems some do not even realize what is wrong. It isn't the gaff that is the problem
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:04 AM
May 2016

it is ignoring the gaff

Yes, its funny

Eko

(7,318 posts)
15. Well,
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:09 AM
May 2016

"bin laden was in a prison" ,, someone so passionate would probably either not see or just discount the misspelling, they have an agenda to promote dont ya know.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
17. bull fucking shit! I just think it was an appropriate Freudian slip
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:21 AM
May 2016

and sorry if you can't see that - really really sorry

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
21. shirley, you jest!
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:42 AM
May 2016

okay, I don't know if your name is Shirley, and I'm not guessing you'll get that either! Intentional/International - Clinton doesn't seem to be able to separate the two. While she did right by distancing herself legally from the Clinton Foundation when she publicly geared up for her presidential run, you can't seriously believe she didn't have intentional relations with that (fill in the blank) state.
I find it amusing. I think your avatar would find it amusing too!

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
23. Have you seen that flick Insignifigance? Brilliant! Einstien, Joe DiMagio and Marilyn - awesome! nt
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:48 AM
May 2016

edit - got the name wrong - illusion was another slip!

Eko

(7,318 posts)
25. seeing as how the word
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:51 AM
May 2016

intentional is not in the original quote you are referencing I'd say that is quite a stretch. I mean one could just as easily use pretty much any adjective and it would make just as much sense.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
33. huh? No! Just the SOS. Go wash your mind with soap!
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:03 AM
May 2016

Now, why would you think that? Oh forget it. I'll have to start charging you couch fees!!! JK!

Eko

(7,318 posts)
35. No,
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:09 AM
May 2016

you were, and now you have not been able to connect it with what you are saying. Any adjective would have worked but like I said you have an agenda.

Eko

(7,318 posts)
41. And that invalidates it?
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:29 AM
May 2016

Your remark is now erased somehow? You choosing an adjective, any old adjective and inserting into a quote to further smear someone is now negated? Give me a freaking break. I will be happy to engage you on both fronts, the cheeky one and the one where you used a misspelled gaffe to further your narrative. Will you stay or tell me to go to my room again as a way for you to run from the discussion we are having.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
38. oh, just forget about it. We are clearly not on the same page-Words do that sometimes-ticky bastards
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:15 AM
May 2016

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
44. yup, but the Freud thing and the 'you guys don't get it' was too much fire bait to ignore... so...
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:41 AM
May 2016

and anyways, look at the #'s of the posts - my continued Freudian slip is way down the list of what I was addressing. I thought you were in for a fun conversation given the hilarity of the OP, and the total random interjection of 'Airplane'. missing, as I had guessed the 'subliminal' intention of the OP but I was wrong. Oops. I mis-typed.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
31. ???
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:59 AM
May 2016

Here's a little synopsis from the LA Times - but I found the political stuff around McCarthy and JFK (the meta story) super interesting

Nicolas Roeg's 1985 film "Insignificance," newly issued in standard and Blu-ray DVD editions by the Criterion Collection, has an irresistible premise that suggests a blind item from a parallel universe. Four characters identified only as the Actress, the Professor, the Ballplayer and the Senator — but instantly recognizable, thanks to some none too subtle identifying traits, as Marilyn Monroe, Albert Einstein, Joe DiMaggio and Joseph McCarthy — somehow converge in a Manhattan hotel room over the course of an eventful night in summer 1954.

As the film opens, the Actress (Roeg's then-wife, Theresa Russell) is shooting a scene that will soon be seared into the popular consciousness — standing under a theater marquee as the wind from a subway grate blows up her billowing white chiffon dress. Roeg stages this moment, from Billy Wilder's "The Seven Year Itch," as an inside-Hollywood set piece, with bustling crew and gaping onlookers, including the guy operating the wind machine below, who blissfully claims to have seen "the face of God."

Done for the night, the breathy Actress instructs her chauffeur to drop her off at the hotel, where the frizzy-haired Professor (Michael Emil), clad in a Princeton sweatshirt, has been pacing absently amid a sheaf of papers. She appears to be seeking the companionship of a fellow lonely celebrity. But what she wants most of all is to act out for the Professor the theory of relativity, which she does by crawling around the floor of his room, using a flashlight, a toy train and some tin soldiers as props.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
22. Then those Hill supporters saying that have no idea what the SoS is or does.
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:43 AM
May 2016

They also seem to forget the times she traveled around the world a FLOTUS, Senator and a celebrity private citizen meeting international power brokers.

Its amazing what people will ignore.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
40. Well, her mistakes and failings are always someone else's fault
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:24 AM
May 2016

She'd show us perfection, if only all these other, lesser beings weren't constantly dragging her down, see?

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