You want to hear a Clinton supporter admit it? Fine, I'm terrified of Trump

[Godhumor]

Truly, utterly terrified.

And I don't understand it. I'm amazed that Republicans have coalesced around him after his stunts in the primary.

I'm amazed that his lies, which he tells constantly, that his misogyny and bigotry are resonating with a sizable portion of the population. I'm even more amazed that the media largely gives him a pass on his statements and behavior, mentioning them once or twice as "gaffes", while parsing every statement, every look, every shoulder shrug of both of our candidates.

The demographics, the part of my analysis work that I hang my hat on, are extremely favorable to Clinton or Sanders, but I do get those pangs in my stomach when I see Trump narrowing or reversing the spread in polls...no matter how flawed those polls are.

This isn't a unity call. This isn't me wanting you to tell me that we should all go Sanders. I'm supporting my candidate, because she is my candidate, that is it.

But for any Sanders supporters pulling their hair out believing Clinton supporters are being very blasé about Trump; I want to show you, at least in my case, that is not true. I used to think Trump was a joke. I still do, but the joke ceased being funny a long time ago, and the comedian keeps insisting on telling it over and over.

Trump, and what he represents, scares the hell out of me.

[hrmjustin]

1. Trump scares me.

God help us all if he gets elected.

[chwaliszewski]

54. If he gets elected, there is no God.

[surrealAmerican]

65. I'm okay with there being no god.

We humans can take care of each other. I'm still not okay with Trump being elected.

[Backwoodsrider]

2. yes it is the Supreme Court

If we get Trump in and he pics some old grey conservative judges American will really go to war with itself.

[merrily]

52. That's when 41 Democratic Senators should block the nomination. But don't worry. They won't be

old. Bush taught the country on that one. They will be young, so they can sit on the bench for a long, long time.

[Hortensis]

66. The Heritage Foundation will pick young, sharp

ultraconservative judges vetted and approved by the Kochs et ilk -- if the whackadoodle wins (and if the HF manages to keep him on track).

[DCBob]

3. Me too.. it's shocking he is becoming acceptable to many.

I just don't get it. He's a complete fraud.

[RKP5637]

28. He's using psyops and brainwashing at it's best. Most politicians

are clueless in dealing with a guy like Trump. He does not play by the rule book which makes him unpredictable and dangerous in the big picture.

[rurallib]

4. Republicans are authoritarians who will fall in line

behind the chosen leader no matter how repugnant. It is simply amazing. It is like they have no free will.
Party before country always.

[RKP5637]

29. Excellent point! They just follow the leader, right, wrong or dangerous. They are

political robots taking orders/instructions as programmed and executing those instructions.

[m-lekktor]

60. no kidding! I wonder where.... *snicker* nt

[bigwillq]

5. Hillary will win, no? Why be scared? She got this, right?

Right?

[MFM008]

36. an honest look

He has never had a true battle for an election no?
Its routine to re-elect him in Vermont, His lowest election was 56% highest 71+%
He has never had a government or cabinet post, or been in the military.
He was a Mayor 3 times right?
always local stuff.
Wikipedia says In addition to politics he has been a teacher, psych aid, carpenter, film maker and writer, good on him

The POINT of all this is to say he has never faced the GOP machine.
Relentless, constant , negative, insanity.
What you have seen from HRC is like getting hit with a NERF ball.
The dirty stuff coming from the other side led by Nero Trump will be shocking to either candidate.
Actually Im beginning to think HRC may have to pick him up as VP-
he has NOT rejected that idea.

[bigwillq]

46. I thought we were talking about Hillary vs. Trump?

Why does everyone still want to talk about Bernie? Hmmmmmm

[MineralMan]

6. Dr. MineralMan' s prescription:

Take one GOTV phonebanking shift per day, starting one month before the general election. Repeat as needed.

[Agnosticsherbet]

8. Excellent miracle cure for Pre Traumatic Trump Syndrome.

[timmymoff]

19. That's on you guys, after all you do not need bernie supporters

when you have gop megadonors in your corner.

[eastwestdem]

7. It's really the combo of Trump and the MSM who can't get enough of him.

They follow his every move. It's more than just free advertising, it seems as if they really want him to win in order to further their business success. If I was an alien who just landed here, I would assume from watching TV that everyone loved Trump and was overwhelmingly excited to have him running for president.

[RKP5637]

30. Yep! M$M sees Trump as the golden money goose! n/t

[One Black Sheep]

9. One Hillary supporter makes posts saying the world is going to end if Trump wins

literally, they say that all life on Earth will end...

So, you aren't alone in your terror.

Personally, I think it may be just a wee bit exaggerated and hyperbole to think in those kinds of "Doomer" terms, but different strokes and all that.

[oldandhappy]

10. I was more terrified of Cruz.

I know most are not blasé about Trump. And I do think he is more malleable than Cruz. Cruz struck me as vicious and rigid. Well, this is more than you wanted to know! Fret not. You will win.

[RKP5637]

32. Same here. Trump is tolerable, Cruz is a wacko nut! n/t

[1StrongBlackMan]

34. In what world is trump, or rather, a trumppresidency, tolerable?

[RKP5637]

35. If you compare him to a Cruz presidency and some of the rest of the critters.

[1StrongBlackMan]

38. Even given cruz and the rest of the gop ...

I can't think of a single Democratic, or left-leaning, demographic that could/would find a trump presidency, tolerable ... except for the Bernie supporting segment found on DU and the intertubes.

[RKP5637]

40. You're likely reading me wrong, perhaps misstated by me. I would also find a Trump

presidency intolerable. Imagine, for example, the SCOTUS appointments he would make. He would trash this country taking it back eons, and he would embolden the worst elements of society. Any endorsing Trump are clueless in the big picture.

[1StrongBlackMan]

44. Oh. Okay.

[TheKentuckian]

37. Compared to the whack job, anti government theocrat Cruz seems not much of a stretch.

[1StrongBlackMan]

39. See Post #38.

[TheKentuckian]

64. Pick your poison but I don't see an argument that Cruz is less dangerous there.

This is getting to be like the TeaPubliKLANS pretending whoever is the Democratic nominee is is the the most liberal EVAH!!111 everytime single time.

I'm sure Trump would be fucking awful but relatively I don't see him as the worst turd in that portapottie but it doesn't do much good to prospect for best feces sample so the argument is pretty much pointless.

[bigtree]

11. you're not alone

...and portraying that fear as some weakness or ruse, as some prominent DUers are doing is irresponsible and vile.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. He scares me, too. I can't imagine what sort of disastrous consequences

could arise from a Trump presidency. I have resigned myself to the probability that Hillary will be the nominee, and that scares me too because she's a weak candidate burdened with decades of baggage and the odor of scandal. Because Trump has an even dodgier past, this will be a dumpster fire of an election season during which the whole process will be debased and degraded beyond anything we've ever experienced. The only way Hillary can win is by showing the voters that he smells even worse than she does (and unfortunately there are a lot of people who like Trump's stench, like dogs who enjoy rolling in shit and dead fish). Ironically, much as I hate it, one thing that might save her is the financial help of some establishment Republicans: The financial markets hate uncertainty, and Trump is a loose cannon while Hillary is an entirely predictable proponent of business as usual.

I don't want Hillary to be our president but we can at least hang on by our fingernails and survive another shitty four years of FBI investigations, Lincoln Bedroom rentals and White House dinners with Lloyd Blankfein. We might not make it through a Trump presidency.

The whole situation sucks balls.

[mak3cats]

16. You express yourself with great clarity...

...and even better imagery. And I agree with you for the most part. Meaning I don't know anymore which would be the worse presidency. I only know that I absolutely won't cast a vote for a Republican. Further than that I can't say.

[woolldog]

21. yeah, I wish Biden had run.

[RKP5637]

42. Same here! n/t

[mak3cats]

13. I appreciate your candor, very much...

because as a local committee member, your concern echoes throughout much of the body of the committee. So you are not the only one.

(Disclaimer: I am a Bernie supporter.)

[Exilednight]

14. it should scare you. sadly, he has a decent chance to defeat Clinton.

[woolldog]

15. The polls aren't flawed.

Trump is cleaning up with men. That offsets Clinton's strength with women. Clinton's problem is that she's female, which is why she's struggling with the male vote. Unfortunately.

[pansypoo53219]

17. can you say governor schwarzenegger?

be afraid. the media WANT the orange SQUIRREl.

[tazkcmo]

18. Always the gender card.

I'll grant you there are knuckle draggers but her gender is not the reason she has a plus 60% unfavorable rating.

[woolldog]

20. True her gender is not the reason she has high unfavorables.

But you do realize that Trump's unfavorables are even worse right?Her unfavorables obviously are not the reason she's behind Trump as her unfavorables are LOWER than Trump's.

Her gender is part of the cause of the gender gap with Trump which is the reason she's behind.

[tazkcmo]

22. I agree

I agree with all you said there.

[SwampG8r]

23. Were lower

Cnn today had him 3 points more favorable than her
First time but proba ly not the last

[woolldog]

24. Damn.

Bernie constantly bashing her as corrupt etc has taken its toll I guess.

[SwampG8r]

41. I think it has more.to do.with her being corrupt

Than with anyone pointing it out.

[woolldog]

49. Corrupt how?

Why do you think there's this perception that she's corrupt now as opposed to a year ago? Sanders' spin during the campaign is the reason. As his rhetoric has intensified, he's dragged her favorables down.

[woolldog]

63. This type of repetition:

Corrupt corrupt corrupt; the bashing of the party to boot, is why her and Dem unfavorables are going up. And why the primary needs to end. This is killing our chances in November, not just at the top of the ticket but down ballot too.

You all are shooting us (and the country) in the foot.

[Hortensis]

67. Did you pick that misogynistic idea up from Trump?

Women's issues are merely a "card" to play or not? The notion that Hillary Clinton's womanhood isn't at the base of the historic hate phenomenon surrounding her and an absolutely huge factor in its development is at best profoundly ignorant.

Name one American politician as widely and deeply hated as her. Ever.

If asked to name even one of their own congressmen, senators, local officials whom they have ever checked for the various issues they so despise her for, none could because they don't.

No one ever checks because hillhate is not about the issues claimed, it's about the phenomenon of one woman having become the target of and nexus for hate arising from the fear and anxiety of hate-full people. A group nastiness centered on her. In another age they'd try to burn her as a witch, instead of hoping for "indictment."

In another situation I'd vote for her to defeat them alone, if I had the luxury. It would be terribly wrong to allow people like that to win. But as it is, we have an really important job to do: Elect our first woman president. In their face.

[flamingdem]

25. Lawrence on msnbc has new polling with Trump ahead of Clinton

Ack! Let's hope that doesn't repeat. I agree with what you wrote.

[Barack_America]

26. Oh well, Democrats had their chance to nominate a candidate...

...who could beat Trump. Sanders supporters warned you that the lack of Independent support for Clinton would hand the Presidency to Trump.

Barring some miraculous fairy action, the Democratic Party has instead chosen to take us all over the cliff.

Can't say we didn't warn you.

[Fumesucker]

27. American government is designed to thwart swift change

And the President, far from being a dictator, actually has little domestic power.

That has been said many, many times here on DU over the last seven years or so. Evidently I was not the only one to remain a little skeptical.

Of course the media gives Trump a pass, trying to deconstruct Trump's lies will just put their listeners to sleep. Not to mention that the media has been playing the "Shape of the Earth? Opinions differ, we'll be right back with the controversy after these messages" game for a couple of decades now.

[ibegurpard]

31. You've saddled us with a vulnerable candidate

Sorry.

[Vote2016]

33. If you are terrified, maybe don't nominate the most disliked and distrusted ever.

[Bonobo]

43. Too bad you're stubbornly voting for the candidate with less of a chance to defeat him. nt

[JudyM]

45. Yep. Preferring to go down with the ship than support the one who polls so much better vs tRump.

tRump must not be as scary as Bernie.

[Arazi]

47. Hillary's a terrible candidate against him. You own this loss

Don't say you weren't warned.

[adigal]

70. If Hillary loses, those that hated us will own it along with her nt

[doc03]

48. Well people have finally come around and are taking

Trump seriously. Just a few days ago people here were celebrating a victory in November. It was a lock Hillary couldn't
lose all these states that were solid blue. I remember them saying all she had to do was carry Ohio, Florida or Pennsylvania
and it was practically impossible for Trump to win. Here I am a high school graduate and a retired steelworker and I have to
say I told you so. I don't think Hillary Clinton will ever be president but I still think she has a better chance than Sanders.
The longer this infighting goes on within the Democratic party the worse our chances get.

[bklyncowgirl]

50. This is why I'm dumbfounded by the attitude of some Clinton supporters.

Hillary was winning. That was clear. Why then the electoral shenanigans? Why the sheer nastiness? Why the clear favoritism shown by the DNC chair. Had Clinton won fair and square it would be much easier to support her.

Yes, Sanders supporters have done some nasty things too--no excuses. Threatening people because they support another candidate is wrong. But if people dislike a sore loser they absolutely loathe a sore winner who doesn't know when to stop piling it on and grinding opponents faces into the dirt.

The Clintonistas seem to believe that they do not need Sanders supporters to beat Trump. That is a mistake in my opinion. I talk to so many people--mostly young people--who despise both Clinton and Trump and who will not vote in the general election.

I don't know how you put the genie back in the bottle but a little graciousness on both sides can't hurt.

[chwaliszewski]

57. +27

[demmiblue]

68. +1

[bemildred]

51. About time. nt

[Iliyah]

53. I'm confident HRC will win the WH and Dems win back the senate at least

But alas the corporate media needs a horse race and believe it or not, the GE has begun. Many have said national polls out this far are meaningless, even BS supporters have advised that numerous times when polls don't favor their candidate, so therefore, its early, and we all know events do change.

Take care

[chwaliszewski]

58. "Trump, and what he represents, scares the hell out of me."

What should scare the hell out of you is the fact that an alarming large amount of this country's population either think just like him or are tolerant of his frightening flaws & ignorance. That's what scares me; the amount of people who think he's the best thing since low maintenance vinyl siding.

[obamanut2012]

69. I'm an LGBT woman

He scares me very much personally, and the Butterfly Effect of him being elected would be devastating: SCOTUS appointments, global economy crashes, civil liberties being spat upon, global embarrassment...

[Skwmom]

71. What you fail to understand is Hillary also scares the hell out of a lot of people.

She worries a lot of people with her military supporters (Kissinger) and her record while at the State Dept. Sure, Trump scares people, but he is not the only one. An election of who scares the populace less in a country of over 300 million people?

[baldguy]

72. The Lone Ranger & Tonto facing the teaming zombie horde coming over the ridge.

"Tonto! Help me! We've got to do something to protect the village!"

"What do you mean *we*, white man?"