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JiminyJominy

(340 posts)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:12 PM Nov 2012

Tomorrows Unemployment Numbers May End Romney For Good

Gallup tonight announced 7.0% unemployment.

Why does this matter? Because the Department of Labor Statistics numbers are usually very close to Gallups numbers anywhere from .1-.3% behind them. Here are the recent months comparison:

Oct 12 Gallup: 7% DoLS: ?
Sep 12 Gallup: 7.9% DoLS: 7.8%
Aug 12 Gallup: 8.1% DoLS: 8.1%
July 12 Gallup: 8% DoLS: 8.3%
June 12 Gallup: 7.8% DoLS: 8.2%
May 12 Gallup: 8% DoLS: 8.2%

So in essence, anything over 7.5% tomorrow would be a major annomoly and outta character for the two surveys comparison.

If it drops to 7.5% or less I just don't see how Romney can come back from that.

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Tomorrows Unemployment Numbers May End Romney For Good (Original Post) JiminyJominy Nov 2012 OP
IF the cold number means anything to voters. elleng Nov 2012 #1
Most analysts are saying last month was an aberration still_one Nov 2012 #2
Aberretion... JiminyJominy Nov 2012 #3
I'm hoping for 7.5% or lower davidpdx Nov 2012 #4
They cook the numbers!!!!! imanamerican63 Nov 2012 #5
7.5% or lower is a massive drop alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #6
Ya JiminyJominy Nov 2012 #7
When Reagan ran for re-election in 1984, the unemployment rate was 7.4% aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #8
I'm a bit nervous Doctor Jack Nov 2012 #9
Keep in mind that the numbers going forward have to Tutonic Nov 2012 #10
I predict that good or bad they'll have little impact DrToast Nov 2012 #11
It could be more employed by average because of the season FreeState Nov 2012 #12
You better believe Faith9326 Nov 2012 #13

JiminyJominy

(340 posts)
3. Aberretion...
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:19 PM
Nov 2012

as in expect unemployment to go up tomorrow? or expect them to come down closer to Gallups numbers?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
4. I'm hoping for 7.5% or lower
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:19 PM
Nov 2012

While it may not be the 7.2% that people are saying he needs, it will be damn close enough.

JiminyJominy

(340 posts)
7. Ya
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:30 PM
Nov 2012

while it would be odd to see the number so outta line with Gallups, i can't see it getting to 7.5 either.

like i posted earlier the chances are:

40%: same (7.8)
25% 7.7
20% 7.9
10% 7.6
5% 7.5

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
8. When Reagan ran for re-election in 1984, the unemployment rate was 7.4%
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:32 PM
Nov 2012


For a good part of Reagan's first term, the unemployment rate was at 10% or higher. And Reagan didn't inherit anything remotely close to the economic mess Obama did.

Obama inherited an economic crisis almost equal to the great depression. And on election day he will likely have an unemployment rate close to or equal to what Reagan had in 1984.

Oh... I almost forgot, Obama also had 2 ridiculous wars to end that Reagan didn't have to worry about.

History is going to be very kind to Obama. He is going do go down as a great President.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
9. I'm a bit nervous
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:33 PM
Nov 2012

Just because we never know what it will be. I think anything about 110,000 and it is a wash. Everything above 150,000 and Romney is totally fucked. As long as it isn't below 100,000 then Romney will get nothing out of this. And I don't think anyone expects that.

Tutonic

(2,522 posts)
10. Keep in mind that the numbers going forward have to
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:40 PM
Nov 2012

reflect the late submittal of the September California numbers. If California had submitted their numbers on time, the rate would have been 7.9 or 8.0 percent. When the California numbers get "smoothed" in over three or four months the rate very well could be 7.9 or 8.0 percent for October--a slight uptick. If Rachel, Ed, Lawrence and the other "readers" on MSNBC did their own research they would know this.

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
12. It could be more employed by average because of the season
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:46 PM
Nov 2012

This time of year business hire temporary help - so that may help the numbers some.

That being said - last month, without looking, I was offered 4 jobs. Two for 10k more than I make, one for 20k more and one for double what I was making. I know I was incredibly lucky but I imagine Im not the only one.

Faith9326

(304 posts)
13. You better believe
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:46 PM
Nov 2012

If the report is even a little negative, the right wingers will drive that story until election day.


If it's positive, there will be full out panic on the right.

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