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StayFrosty

(237 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:28 PM May 2016

What a sad and pathetic legacy Sanders will leave

He could have gone out gracefully and he could have used his progressive message to unify the party but no

He will be remembered as a bitter and resentful socialist that helped to further divide the Democratic party in a very crucial election with a lot at stake

And yes he's the one driving the division and riling up his supporters.

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What a sad and pathetic legacy Sanders will leave (Original Post) StayFrosty May 2016 OP
Nothing divisive about this thread at all. ForgoTheConsequence May 2016 #1
We did run a stronger candidate StayFrosty May 2016 #5
Wrong. ForgoTheConsequence May 2016 #7
She's unlikeable StayFrosty May 2016 #8
It's been fun rhett o rick May 2016 #25
Sure they do. ForgoTheConsequence May 2016 #58
Just curious about one thing. RiverNoord May 2016 #95
Paid per post pokerfan May 2016 #112
huh. Wasn't aware of 'paid per post' arrangements. RiverNoord May 2016 #123
Pot meets kettle. Fla Dem May 2016 #124
It's a paid troll, Fla Dem. RiverNoord May 2016 #140
Be careful a Hillstan/Brockolette got one of my posts hidden. nc4bo May 2016 #153
No worries :-) RiverNoord May 2016 #159
Flamebait. Not biting. Others should do the same. corkhead May 2016 #63
Please don't feed them. Less than 200 posts. One of the hundreds that have joined rhett o rick May 2016 #24
They're Brock-paid trolls trying to purge us off this site. RepubliCON-Watch May 2016 #32
I call them zombies. They keep coming back. I've put probably 30 on ignore. nm rhett o rick May 2016 #40
One troll tried to use sarcasm against one of my post. RepubliCON-Watch May 2016 #45
Should see what the inboxes of MIRT looks like Scootaloo May 2016 #48
I loved my time serving on MIRT, but I am so glad I'm not serving now!!!! arcane1 May 2016 #56
Sanders people have been bullies all along; I think GOP are paying Sanders Bills lewebley3 May 2016 #126
you shouldnt be so dismissive of our complaints Baobab May 2016 #149
You were never a progressive if don't vote for Hillary: its the poor that hurt not you lewebley3 May 2016 #150
why do you think I don't want to vote for Hillary, its certainly not for the wealthy Baobab May 2016 #157
We want the best for our country and that means you too. All of us Baobab May 2016 #158
or one who hadn't lied to the people about big and important things. Baobab May 2016 #148
Bullshit. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #2
I completely agree! MoonRiver May 2016 #3
What a sad and pathetic OP hobbit709 May 2016 #4
Yup, thats a hater, we have a big crop of those this year larkrake May 2016 #13
I don't mind him staying in the race, woolldog May 2016 #6
He does not bash Clinton, but the Party does need self reflection, and he points that out larkrake May 2016 #18
He bashes Clinton every day Demsrule86 May 2016 #23
Yeah, it's sad really. ChimpersMcSmirkers May 2016 #35
He deserves to be blamed Demsrule86 May 2016 #71
same here-His lying speeches where he tells his minions that he can still win redstateblues May 2016 #137
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #156
He may be pointing out some of Clinton's baggage but she brought rhett o rick May 2016 #19
Seems like a good place for that Truman quote. 2cannan May 2016 #47
Actually he is a National Hero to 80% of americans larkrake May 2016 #9
An angry old socialist leading a bunch of anarchists wannabees... beachbumbob May 2016 #33
We're all a bunch of anarchists that want to grow the government. RichVRichV May 2016 #83
^^ nt grasswire May 2016 #155
80% you say? That's amazing, no wonder he's so far ahead of Hillary. procon May 2016 #52
Yep. puffy socks May 2016 #10
OWS is alive and well- underground where they can do work without gestapo police larkrake May 2016 #22
I tried to work with OWS Demsrule86 May 2016 #29
Uh huh puffy socks May 2016 #31
By underground do you mean their parent's basement? CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #85
hahaha obamanut2012 May 2016 #115
What time is the Drum Circle? COLGATE4 May 2016 #134
lol..n/t Henhouse May 2016 #147
he will have all the military hardware he voted for to comfort him nt msongs May 2016 #11
And Hillary has the horror of the Iraq War to haunt her. Not to mention the children rhett o rick May 2016 #46
Hillary couldn't "sell" that military hardware to Israel without those votes. frylock May 2016 #146
Brock-puppet evening shift isn't the same quality as the day shift. arcane1 May 2016 #12
They've definitely got the third string in tonight. n/t QC May 2016 #17
It's so hard to get good help these days. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #26
Great post Depaysement May 2016 #111
This message was self-deleted by its author carolinayellowdog May 2016 #14
He is becoming a legend to the left and this run will be talked about long after we kick the bucket! spinboas May 2016 #15
Good luck StayFrosty May 2016 #21
By all means. Keep trying to compromise with the extreme right. Scootaloo May 2016 #43
Bullshit TransitJohn May 2016 #75
Ever heard of 'Sequestration'? AgingAmerican May 2016 #96
We will see in the mid terms if this is a movement redstateblues May 2016 #135
He's already a legend - in his own mind. nt COLGATE4 May 2016 #136
DU rec...nt SidDithers May 2016 #16
lol Scootaloo May 2016 #44
So true, and at his age, he doesn't have much time to redeem himself. eastwestdem May 2016 #20
Scorched earth politics! Kall May 2016 #37
I'm not talking about surrogates. I'm talking about Sanders himself. He could have chosen to eastwestdem May 2016 #42
Hate to break it to you Kall May 2016 #53
What does that have to do with 'scorched earth'? Reasonable people know that it was a joke. eastwestdem May 2016 #54
Give me a break. Kall May 2016 #59
Then why don't you go over to FreeRepublic.com...that's where the Trump supporters are. nt eastwestdem May 2016 #60
You don't get it, do you. -none May 2016 #73
please read up on the meaning of scorched earth timmymoff May 2016 #87
Mid-April n/t arcane1 May 2016 #57
so sad oldandhappy May 2016 #27
I don't like reporting threads kimbutgar May 2016 #28
"Sandersism Has Defeated Clintonism" Mike__M May 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #34
+1,000 Vattel May 2016 #49
They are doing this on purpose to goad us into an irrational response corkhead May 2016 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #80
That could very well be true but I refuse to grease the skids for them to do it. corkhead May 2016 #117
Oh, they see TransitJohn May 2016 #76
A sad and pathethic post from you Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #36
think you make #20 I have put on ignore today rurallib May 2016 #38
interesting Perspective RazBerryBeret May 2016 #39
Welcome to DU. Will you be here long? Scootaloo May 2016 #41
Until the contract runs out. n/t QC May 2016 #62
You will do your best to have him remembered that way, and hopefully bury any message of JCanete May 2016 #50
Sanders' legacy will be just fine, but thanks for the concern. BillZBubb May 2016 #51
Thanks Lol. In you fevered dreams,hill fan cali May 2016 #55
But BoBs will have their integrity to comfort them WhiteTara May 2016 #61
This is Bernie's legacy dragonfly301 May 2016 #64
And this also dragonfly301 May 2016 #66
this too dragonfly301 May 2016 #67
Awesome, LOL.... Grassy Knoll May 2016 #65
What a sad & pathetic excuse of an OP! Voice for Peace May 2016 #68
He will be remembered as a great American who cared for ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #70
Do you think DUers are stupid? GeorgeGist May 2016 #72
Maybe to corporate-owned Democratic Partisans TransitJohn May 2016 #74
That's pretty hasty, most likely he will support the party as he has done in the past. The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #77
Says someone who joined DU earlier this month. SheilaT May 2016 #78
California Nightmarin' dchill May 2016 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author NowSam May 2016 #81
You know you're repeating lies, don't you? mia May 2016 #82
Just like many of the OPs that are surfacing recently. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #84
How sad and pathetic it will be when Trump wins the GE. 7wo7rees May 2016 #86
How can Hillary lose in the GE? StayFrosty May 2016 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author myrna minx May 2016 #89
Be nice! QC May 2016 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author myrna minx May 2016 #92
Yep, he's still a conservative character assassin. QC May 2016 #94
This message was self-deleted by its author myrna minx May 2016 #118
David Brock can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, QC May 2016 #120
This message was self-deleted by its author myrna minx May 2016 #121
I have one of his books too. Lol. In fact I think it's around somewhere. I should find it & burn it. jillan May 2016 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author myrna minx May 2016 #119
Is this a call for unity? nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #90
His legacy will be indelible. Bonobo May 2016 #93
How in the fuck have you not made my (enormous) Ignore list by now? Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #97
What a sad and pathetic legacy StayFrosty will leave BlueLouisville May 2016 #98
Say hi to Dave for us! Arugula Latte May 2016 #99
Hi Dave! QC May 2016 #100
Dave's not here, man. Buns_of_Fire May 2016 #107
Excuse you, Hilary stayed in the primary against Senator Obama until June. akbacchus_BC May 2016 #101
What a sad and pathetic post. KPN May 2016 #102
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #103
I'm a Hillary supporter and I disagree. Sanders' legacy is just fine. StevieM May 2016 #104
pffft...sez you hopemountain May 2016 #105
You wish. His legacy will blow Third Way to thge dustbin of history. The only sad thing is: Betty Karlson May 2016 #106
This post comes off as a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty. nt Buns_of_Fire May 2016 #108
Pathetic - Tell Brock he gets what he pays for. Chezboo May 2016 #109
you are so full of shit. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #113
That sounds very fox news. Sky Masterson May 2016 #114
Bitter and resentful socialists deserve representation,too. nt. My Good Babushka May 2016 #116
I used to like Sanders but those feelings have faded Gothmog May 2016 #122
so did you evolve or pivot? azurnoir May 2016 #127
Even without winning the nod he could have shored up support for progressive causes workinclasszero May 2016 #125
oh but now Hillary will say no to single payer -be willing to compromise on abortion, azurnoir May 2016 #128
What a sad and pathetic legacy Hillary Clinton will leave Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #129
He'll correctly be remembered in the same manner Nader is. baldguy May 2016 #130
I don't doubt it workinclasszero May 2016 #133
Your concern is noted Amaril May 2016 #131
His supporters, which outnumber Hillary supporters by a lot, don't want him to go out Time for change May 2016 #132
Hahahahah this is solid gold! pinebox May 2016 #138
Pinebox, here's the proper music for that Communist invasion. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #160
That is pretty awesome, thanks! pinebox May 2016 #161
Haha. It's laughable to hear such rubbish. Gregorian May 2016 #139
What a sad and pathetic legacy Clinton will leave. LWolf May 2016 #141
She's already left a horrible and sad legacy in other places around the world. polly7 May 2016 #142
what an arrogant post.. yuiyoshida May 2016 #143
I agree... asuhornets May 2016 #144
Your old school ad hominem politics do nothing unite his supporters, at this point. ancianita May 2016 #145
Another noob here to feed us some Brock-oli. Jester Messiah May 2016 #151
Hillary is truly saddest of all. bkkyosemite May 2016 #152
#wayofthenadergoat nt arely staircase May 2016 #154

StayFrosty

(237 posts)
5. We did run a stronger candidate
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:35 PM
May 2016

That's why Sanders has no path towards the nomination that doesn't include outright stealing it from Hillary

Ironic eh?

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
58. Sure they do.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:16 PM
May 2016

People going to college, seeing a doctor and not killing brown people aren't "far left" ideas by the way.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
95. Just curious about one thing.
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:15 AM
May 2016

Do you expect to get somefhing in a Clinton Administration for your service or are you just a PR mercenary?

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
123. huh. Wasn't aware of 'paid per post' arrangements.
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:04 AM
May 2016

Wonder how that sort of system could be audited? One party posts and others verify?

Well, it's certainly a cowardly new world....

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
140. It's a paid troll, Fla Dem.
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:38 AM
May 2016

We have our squabbles on DU, and that's the way it ought to be. However, the very least we should demand of esach other is that we are actual participants in our dialogues, not posting stuff disingenously as people paid to inject specific text into political discussions on a political web sitte.

I write what I mean towrite, because DU is a valuable tool for all of us to engage each other on issues of importance for the Democratic party and politics in general. No ulterior motives. If someone is directly linked to a particular political campaign or the Republican party, I expect them to have the decency to say so.

Otherwise the entire site might just as well be one big revolving billboard.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
153. Be careful a Hillstan/Brockolette got one of my posts hidden.
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:41 PM
May 2016

Under similar circumstances as yours.

Hit the right nerve and they're all teeth, nails and poo.

Watch yer back.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
159. No worries :-)
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:23 AM
May 2016

Thanks for the heads up, but I'm comfortable with such a risk.

If we can't talk straight with each other about topics like that, then everyone might as well find sponsors and attach 'This post brought to you by xyz, Inc.' to the tail ends of our posts....

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
24. Please don't feed them. Less than 200 posts. One of the hundreds that have joined
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:43 PM
May 2016

DU in the last two months. Put them on ignore.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
56. I loved my time serving on MIRT, but I am so glad I'm not serving now!!!!
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:13 PM
May 2016

A toast to Those Who Do!

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
149. you shouldnt be so dismissive of our complaints
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:46 PM
May 2016

maybe you might learn something you need to know.

I was an avid Hillary supporter once. Not any longer.

One thing changed my mind. Its right in front of you. just look a bit lower.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
157. why do you think I don't want to vote for Hillary, its certainly not for the wealthy
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

Hillary's policies are very bad news for poor people in the US, she's just been very skillful in hiding it.
For example, when she talks about building infrastructure, you think that means jobs, right? Jobs for Americans? Not so. The same thing with health care, you think that somehow Hillary will figure out a way to make for profit healthcare affordable for the poor without getting rid of the tiered system and its incredible level complexity that adds no value? The only way she can do that without breaking the rules her husband helped create is to either ship poor people overseas when they need hospital procedures / long term care, or throw our doctors and nurses under the bus and deplete foreign nations of doctors, norses, teachers, etc, staff our current healthcare and education systems, construction sites, etc, with foreign workers working for very low wages. Thats likely going to be what they do. And to get us there they are pulling a dirty trick. They are going to have the WTO "tell us" to get rid of our minimum wage laws. Did you know that we're in the middle of trade negotiations on services that have been going back 15 years? They are almost finished, in Geneva?

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
158. We want the best for our country and that means you too. All of us
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:33 PM
May 2016

Our country is people, people are the most important thing, businesses are made up of people, they are not people. We oppose corporate personhood which claims that corporations are people and should have rights to spend money since they cannot talk. We feel that people should come first, not corporations.

Otherwise corporations will take over the world and corporations are amoral and could not care less if people lived or died, they just want your money. Once people's money is gone, they want them gone, as poor people are taking up space that they would rather somebody with lots of money was occupying.

Unless we put people above corporations, they will continue to have a right to displace people and base it on the grounds that their proposed project or whatever is more likely to generate wealth. For who doesn't matter so its always of course them.

Did you know that Hillary wants to deregulate the export of natural gas irreversibly (by putting it into a trade deal) and then WTO rules require that we sell it to the highest bidder, exporting it "until its gone" ? The price of heating and air conditioning for American families could easily double in a very short period of time, leading to a lot of problems if apartment buildings containing affordable housing are deemed "too expensive" to heat.

Did you know that an ill advised change (repealing the Glass-Steagall Act) the Clintons made in 1998 because of the same deal that also is screwing up health care - something they have not told us, was responsible for the 2008 financial crash which wiped out the goals of the Clinton years made by poor families?

And now they want us to make the same mistakes (financial deregulation in response to a trade deal) again.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
148. or one who hadn't lied to the people about big and important things.
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:42 PM
May 2016

for hated demonstrably evil corporations.

Demsrule86

(68,593 posts)
23. He bashes Clinton every day
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:43 PM
May 2016

and you know it...I for one have come to despise Sanders...and I used to like the guy.

ChimpersMcSmirkers

(3,328 posts)
35. Yeah, it's sad really.
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:51 PM
May 2016

Sanders use to focus on inequality but now it's all about the DNC being unfair and corrupt. Bernie's lost fair and square. Is the way the party runs things a bit sketch on the fringes? Sure, but Bernie is now telling his fans that a)we can still win and b) the party is corrupt. He's salting the earth against getting his peeps on board when he finally drops out. Pretty sad really and he will get blamed if Trump gets in because young voters don't show.

Demsrule86

(68,593 posts)
71. He deserves to be blamed
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:53 PM
May 2016

Tom Hartman whom I lost much respect for and others all said...oh Bernie will be good for Democrats...but he isn't. Honestly, he seems kind of out of it lately...bitter and spiteful

Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #23)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
19. He may be pointing out some of Clinton's baggage but she brought
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:41 PM
May 2016

that with her. He hasn't bashed the Party.

2cannan

(344 posts)
47. Seems like a good place for that Truman quote.
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:59 PM
May 2016

"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell."

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
9. Actually he is a National Hero to 80% of americans
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:38 PM
May 2016

20 % of those fear the Party so will vote for their 2nd establishment candidate(Hill).Indys have the majority in this nation and they are tired of being sidelined

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
33. An angry old socialist leading a bunch of anarchists wannabees...
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:50 PM
May 2016

Hellbent on destroying our country no more...no less. We hear everyday by threats and foot stumping...if the media leveled their cannons months ago at sanders...he be off hiding just like his wife is after all the reporting on her trashing Burlington college...right wing media would make mincemeat out of sanders...ask why they have held off....

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
83. We're all a bunch of anarchists that want to grow the government.
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:27 AM
May 2016

We must be the world's worst anarchists.

procon

(15,805 posts)
52. 80% you say? That's amazing, no wonder he's so far ahead of Hillary.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:05 PM
May 2016

Save me... I can feel my brain cells dying just reading this malarky. Worse, you probably think your disgorged stats are the real thing, yeah?

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
10. Yep.
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:38 PM
May 2016

It will fizzle just like OWS did.
Some people just don't understand that you cannot change the system from outside the system. In order to get into the system you must follow the current rules.

"Anybody can become angry - that is easy, but to be angry with the right person and to the right degree and at the right time and for the right purpose, and in the right way - that is not within everybody's power and is not easy.~ Aristotle

Demsrule86

(68,593 posts)
29. I tried to work with OWS
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:46 PM
May 2016

here in Ohio...people getting tossed out of their homes during the financial crisis...evil banks etc...protests...stop the eviction...you know...they have no leader or so they said...they never show up...they can't plan their way out of a paper bag...this movement is doomed because it seriously has no leadership of any kind. It is sad because it had real potential...we did the spring thing at my house remember that? and then nothing from them. They are not willing to do the heavy lifting and they have no leaders.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
46. And Hillary has the horror of the Iraq War to haunt her. Not to mention the children
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:59 PM
May 2016

killed by cluster bombs. No empathy. But you like her because she is tough. Right. But not so tough when the Republicons told her to help spread the lies of WMD in Iraq.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
146. Hillary couldn't "sell" that military hardware to Israel without those votes.
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:37 PM
May 2016

Where's the gratitude?

Response to StayFrosty (Original post)

 

spinboas

(48 posts)
15. He is becoming a legend to the left and this run will be talked about long after we kick the bucket!
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:40 PM
May 2016

He will be known as the leader who led the anti establishment surge of 2016 which paved the way for the leftist takeover which those people will currently be living and enjoying!

StayFrosty

(237 posts)
21. Good luck
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:43 PM
May 2016

Implementing your leftist utopia in the United States.

Our government depends on compromise from everyone to function properly

Something Sandernistas don't get

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
75. Bullshit
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:08 AM
May 2016

Republicans never compromise on anything. Democrats just cave, cave, cave, giving everything away, and moving our country inexorably rightwards towards fascism. Our government only depends on compromise from the left, and everything is hunky-dory in Team Donkey land, because the corporate gravy train keeps moving along.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
135. We will see in the mid terms if this is a movement
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:10 AM
May 2016

I have my doubts. It's easy going to a rock show type event -staying engaged and voting in the midterms should be just as easy but it never seems to happen

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
20. So true, and at his age, he doesn't have much time to redeem himself.
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:42 PM
May 2016

If history even remembers him for long, it will be as a proponent of violence and scorched earth politics.

The good thing is that he will have disillusioned this generation of left wing idealists, so hopefully we won't have to deal with a fringe candidate again for several election cycles.

Kall

(615 posts)
37. Scorched earth politics!
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:53 PM
May 2016

Coming from the Clinton campaign, that's pretty rich. Now excuse me, I have to go inform some women that if they don't vote for Hillary, they have a special place in Hell. And that Sanders wants to dismantle Medicare, and take away health care from "millions and millions and millions of people." And that Sanders is a lockstep vote for the NRA with his D- rating. And go watch Clinton surrogates smear Sanders' Civil Rights record.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
42. I'm not talking about surrogates. I'm talking about Sanders himself. He could have chosen to
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:57 PM
May 2016

accept that he lost the race back on Super Tuesday. But instead he continued on, speaking vitriol against the entire Democratic Party, just like a spoiled child who didn't get his way. Knowing all along that his words were fueling anger in his fans. The only solace we have is that his legacy will be that of a bitter man who sold out his own principles for a chance at more time in the spotlight.

Kall

(615 posts)
53. Hate to break it to you
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:06 PM
May 2016

but I wasn't just talking about surrogates either. Hillary Clinton's immediate response to Madeleine Albright's pronouncement that women who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton had a special place in Hell was to laugh and applaud standing next to her. Her later, considered response was "Oh, people are getting offended at everything these days!" She made the bullshit NRA charge herself, as well as the Medicare "dismantling".

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
54. What does that have to do with 'scorched earth'? Reasonable people know that it was a joke.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:10 PM
May 2016

In no way was that comment (or the support of it) threatening, or did it incite violence. It was a typical exchange that is made in groups of like-minded people. Not at all the same as telling a group of already rabid people that 'we still can win this' when the race was lost long ago, and telling them that the DNC was not treating them well. He knows that kind of talk just encourages his supporters that are already prone to violence, to ignite.

Kall

(615 posts)
59. Give me a break.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:19 PM
May 2016

She's spent months burning bridges, bombing them, then burning them again doing this kind of crap. And that is not an exhaustive list by far - throw in going to Jeb Bush's big donors cap in hand a couple weeks ago, for instance. Now she thinks everyone she royally pissed off should just cross the non-existent bridges to her. It doesn't work like that.

-none

(1,884 posts)
73. You don't get it, do you.
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:01 AM
May 2016

If someone insults you on a daily basis, knocks the looks of your wife, lets the air out of the tires of your car parked in the driveway several times and walks through the flowers in the flower bed every week, then wants a favor from you, how likely are you to grant that favor? Not very, correct?
Well, that is effectively what Hillary and Debbie DINO are doing to Bernie.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
87. please read up on the meaning of scorched earth
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:46 AM
May 2016

you sure this is the third string and not the practice squad?

kimbutgar

(21,163 posts)
28. I don't like reporting threads
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:46 PM
May 2016

But your post is divisive in itself.

How much are you being paid to troll in DU?

Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
30. "Sandersism Has Defeated Clintonism"
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:46 PM
May 2016
An obsession with the horse-race — with what happens in 2016, irrespective of what will happen in 2020, 2024, and for decades after that — is the only thing that allows Hillary Clinton to declare victory in the Democratic nominating process. Any longer view, particularly one that considers that Clintonism and Sandersism didn’t start 2015 at the same starting line — indeed, didn’t even start in the same stadium — will acknowledge that Sanders finishing the 2016 election season with between 46 percent and 48 percent of the pledged delegates means Sandersism has defeated Clintonism.

The Democrats ignore this at their peril.

But make no mistake, they will ignore it — they already are, and with a particularly unpalatable smugness — and so they must therefore, going forward, be considered as existentially imperiled as the Republican Party is right now.

LINK

Response to StayFrosty (Original post)

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
69. They are doing this on purpose to goad us into an irrational response
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:38 PM
May 2016

in an attempt to damage our movement. It is an attempt to destroy the Sanders candidacy and ultimately it will be the excuse for Hillary picking a Bluedog or worse running mate, and totally ignoring the progressive movement during the convention and beyond.

I'm not taking the bait. Don't feed the trolls!

Response to corkhead (Reply #69)

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
76. Oh, they see
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:10 AM
May 2016

They just don't care about the community that this site used to be, they want to win, baby!

RazBerryBeret

(3,075 posts)
39. interesting Perspective
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:56 PM
May 2016

But, he was 50 points behind the presumptive nominee when he announced. He had barely any name recognition. He is over 70 years old and a Democratic Socialist. He is running against a very wealthy, very powerful political machine, he basically had no chance.

but he ran and he won states, and he continues to raise more non-corporate money than ANY candidate in the history of the United States. thats really a big f'ing deal. with very little media attention, and the fact that he has been discounted from the beginning, people are still donating.

AND... even though we hear he has no chance, he continues to pack arenas with supporters, Americans waiting in lines for 3 hours to hear him speak.

Say what you want, belittle him and his record as you will, but he will not be remembered as bitter and resentful...

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
50. You will do your best to have him remembered that way, and hopefully bury any message of
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:01 PM
May 2016

wresting this nation back from the .01% with him. Why you want that I have no idea, but don't pretend, as you and a whole media machine perpetuate this meme, that he brought it upon himself. You are selling the shit out of it. Your post is nothing but selling. It isn't deconstructing. It isn't inviting conversation. It isn't even bothering to cite evidence for your claim. Just pure viral marketing manufacturing consent.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
51. Sanders' legacy will be just fine, but thanks for the concern.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:03 PM
May 2016

What's tomorrow's Brock talking point going to be? Did you get the memo yet?

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
70. He will be remembered as a great American who cared for
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:39 PM
May 2016

Mankind and fought the rigged establishment. Hillary will be remembered for opening the door for wall street and corporate America to screw the American people.

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
74. Maybe to corporate-owned Democratic Partisans
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:04 AM
May 2016

To mainstream American liberals, he'll leave quite a different legacy

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
78. Says someone who joined DU earlier this month.
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:13 AM
May 2016

Need I remind you that Hillary Clinton stayed in the race in 2008 until AFTER the last primary. Bernie needs to do the same.

Plus, although I'm sure you don't care at all, I happen to live in a state that will be holding its primary next month. I plan to vote for Bernie Sanders in the primary. And I plan to vote for him in November.

So to all of you who keep on saying Bernie needs to end his campaign: Fuck you.

Response to StayFrosty (Original post)

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
86. How sad and pathetic it will be when Trump wins the GE.
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:44 AM
May 2016

How is that?

Ignore the voter suppression, ignore the machines tabulating votes at your peril. You won't be able to blame Bernie, though you will try.

Trump wins because of Bernie. Convenient but not true.
Hillary camo will be to blame.

Response to StayFrosty (Original post)

Response to QC (Reply #91)

QC

(26,371 posts)
94. Yep, he's still a conservative character assassin.
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:59 AM
May 2016

He just works for a different conservative now.

Response to QC (Reply #94)

QC

(26,371 posts)
120. David Brock can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration,
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:43 AM
May 2016

Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

Response to QC (Reply #120)

jillan

(39,451 posts)
110. I have one of his books too. Lol. In fact I think it's around somewhere. I should find it & burn it.
Thu May 19, 2016, 04:46 AM
May 2016

Or should I say bern it.

How the Right was Wrong or something like that.

Response to jillan (Reply #110)

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
97. How in the fuck have you not made my (enormous) Ignore list by now?
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:19 AM
May 2016

Particularly given your propensity to shit up the site with this sort of ratfuckery...

Hope that Brockian spending money in your pocket buys you something nice and strong...to further suppress what might actually remain of your conscience. But in any case...bye, Felicia!

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
101. Excuse you, Hilary stayed in the primary against Senator Obama until June.
Thu May 19, 2016, 01:42 AM
May 2016

She is reaping what she engaged in in 2008. Some of you have short memory!
I am a Bernie supporter!

Response to KPN (Reply #102)

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
104. I'm a Hillary supporter and I disagree. Sanders' legacy is just fine.
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:02 AM
May 2016

The party will come through the primary and unite to win the general election.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
106. You wish. His legacy will blow Third Way to thge dustbin of history. The only sad thing is:
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:35 AM
May 2016

he MAY not be able to do that all in this year.

Gothmog

(145,335 posts)
122. I used to like Sanders but those feelings have faded
Thu May 19, 2016, 08:56 AM
May 2016

I am sorry to see Sanders throw away his life's work by being some petty

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
125. Even without winning the nod he could have shored up support for progressive causes
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:46 AM
May 2016

But naw...its all about Bernie.

So he will bern down the house instead and set back progressive causes for years.

WTG Bernie?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
128. oh but now Hillary will say no to single payer -be willing to compromise on abortion,
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:50 AM
May 2016

not support a $15 minimum wage for everyone , be against any type of free public collage ......... I'm sure she would have for all of those if only Bernie had been nicer

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
129. What a sad and pathetic legacy Hillary Clinton will leave
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:50 AM
May 2016

She could have gone out wealthy and retired with her millions made from "public service" but no.

Power is addictive. She had to get back into it because she wants it all.

She's responsible for probably millions of deaths but it still isn't enough.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
131. Your concern is noted
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:54 AM
May 2016

.....but you're blaming the wrong person for the growing division in this party.

Time for change

(13,715 posts)
132. His supporters, which outnumber Hillary supporters by a lot, don't want him to go out
Thu May 19, 2016, 10:54 AM
May 2016

Not now, not after the convention, not ever.

And the more that Hillary supporters write stupid posts like this, the less likely Bernie supporters are to vote for her in the GE.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
138. Hahahahah this is solid gold!
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:13 AM
May 2016

The guy who is fighting for the average American is going to have so many people pissed off?
This my friends is hilarious!

It even has the RW talking point of "socialist" thrown in for kicks! You know, I find it sad that so many people these days think Canada is the former DDR or USSR. I mean my God, at any second the Red Army will be marching through the streets of NYC with it's quasi leader Kim Jung-Il leading the march with flags draped of Marx and Stalin.

Denmark will be the new capitol of all things May Day and that commie bastion Sweden, cancel the damn bikini contest!

It's funny to see Hillary supporters so frightened that some kid may have free college or God forbid, people have health care! I mean that is completely scary and unacceptable, right?

The truth is, you're afraid of this because your mantra and ideology is dying out.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
160. Pinebox, here's the proper music for that Communist invasion.
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:39 AM
May 2016

The Russians Are Coming! (Cold war era fears)


Finale of Dmitri Shostakovich's Fifth Symphony, Leonard Bernstein conducting:



Written in 1937. The bureaucrats were afraid that he wasn't writing sufficiently Communist music, which is ridiculous.


I played this piece at summer music camp in Lawrence, KS, at K.U. under the great Carmen Dragon, and it is a BIG HAIRY BITCH to play. This was during the first week and we were all nervous that we weren't good enough. I was 13th chair in the back of the first violin section. That's a pretty big orchestra. I was 16. Dmitri Shostakovich was still alive.


He was telling the timpanist to basically grow some stones and bang the hell out of the timpani at the end. He told the timpanist during rehearsal, "Son, the timpanist is one of the most virile men in the orchestra." . Carmen Dragon was very friendly and ate lunch in the dorms with us. This was 5 weeks, 5 different conductors and five concerts. Except I was also in a chorus, so that was 5 weeks, 10 conductors, and 10 concerts.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
141. What a sad and pathetic legacy Clinton will leave.
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:36 AM
May 2016

She will be remembered as the woman who was willing to corrupt democratic and Democratic principles to win at any cost; the woman who put her own career path higher on the priority list than the lives of 99% of the population of the nation. The woman who ultimately broke the Democratic Party, sending so many fleeing into independency and ultimately rendering the party irrelevant to all but the mega corporations she serves and their willing sheep.

And yes, she's the one driving the division and riling up her supporters.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
142. She's already left a horrible and sad legacy in other places around the world.
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:54 AM
May 2016

Tragic for all those unfortunate enough to live in them.

ancianita

(36,099 posts)
145. Your old school ad hominem politics do nothing unite his supporters, at this point.
Sat May 21, 2016, 12:26 PM
May 2016

"Sad and pathetic" are mean, terrible things to say to millions who have had much joy and hope for being accepted into more democratic process. There has been no "riling" or division.

It's never been about Bernie, it's been about US.

Good thing you have no control over how a 34 year senator will be remembered -- one who voted 95 percent of the time with the party compared to 80 percent for the average Democrat.

Poor form.

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