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538 Update: Obama Is Taking off Like a Rocket (Original Post) Doctor Jack Nov 2012 OP
Wow, I never imagined we'd see his numbers go back up that high a month ago ShadowLiberal Nov 2012 #1
The only way Romney wins is if all the data and historic analysis we have is wrong. nt aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #10
And if Dems get complacent and don't show up to vote. It ain't over till it's over. MADem Nov 2012 #43
Trending up near the finish line. Jack Sprat Nov 2012 #2
I'm going to go put some champagne on ice Doctor Jack Nov 2012 #7
I just don't believe that Nate Silver would put his ENTIRE reputation on the line. I put trust in Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2012 #3
Nevada zwyziec Nov 2012 #4
Its says a lot as to how well the GOP has driven off all minorities. Not just African Americans. nt aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #8
+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #32
The "Now Cast" is equal to where it was on September 9th! aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #5
Woot woot! Politicub Nov 2012 #6
Darn right! oswaldactedalone Nov 2012 #13
You rock. It's folks like you who make all the difference. Politicub Nov 2012 #20
Electoral-Vote.com has Romeny leading 48-47. Anything is possible! AAO Nov 2012 #38
The State that Romney did so very much for! zwyziec Nov 2012 #9
MA. is aways in the bag...like california, R.I., etc. demosincebirth Nov 2012 #19
Great, now let's elect Elizabeth Warren to the Senate as well!! BlueDemKev Nov 2012 #45
He has been called "a closer." madaboutharry Nov 2012 #11
Sadly, he won't close his mouth until next Wednesday. NCLefty Nov 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Ztolkins Nov 2012 #12
A quick look at the states Doctor Jack Nov 2012 #15
Fuck. Yes. It feels like light years since October 3 budkin Nov 2012 #16
I sure hope he's right. demosincebirth Nov 2012 #17
Romentum!!! Doctor Jack Nov 2012 #18
That 80.8 looks great! DCBob Nov 2012 #21
I bet it will be over 90% by the beginning of next week Doctor Jack Nov 2012 #25
I bet it will be 100% in a week. lovemydog Nov 2012 #29
Welcome to DU, Jack. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #49
On Oct. 4th the President was at 87.1. Tonight he is at 80.8 aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #22
You beat me to it! Doctor Jack Nov 2012 #24
The first debate edge has been erased. aletier_v Nov 2012 #58
Has anyone noticed? Doctor Jack Nov 2012 #23
More like an Atlas rocket. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #26
For whatever it's worth... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #27
That I hadn't heard! CBHagman Nov 2012 #50
He's a Rocket Man! barnabas63 Nov 2012 #28
haven't seen that since before the first debate.... oldhippydude Nov 2012 #30
Like Walsh, Bachman, and West Doctor Jack Nov 2012 #31
Ryan too bluemarkers Nov 2012 #33
Or Eric Cantor WinstonSmith4740 Nov 2012 #37
Make it SO! sheshe2 Nov 2012 #42
Coattails baby... ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #34
Get a grip folks!!! Sophiegirl Nov 2012 #35
and yet even though PPP shows NC a dead tie Silver has a 80% lock for Romney grantcart Nov 2012 #36
What is Nate seeing that we/us/NCDems are not? nc4bo Nov 2012 #39
Gravis Marketing grantcart Nov 2012 #40
Ahh Gravis... nc4bo Nov 2012 #44
Now you see why I went to war on his ass. grantcart Nov 2012 #46
Actually, as of today we have 811,983 more registered Dems than Repubs mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #51
Take Gravis out and Romney would still lead. cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #52
This n/t FreeState Nov 2012 #55
That's just not true. Take out Gravis (and Ras who Nate only gives 2 bars to) grantcart Nov 2012 #59
Look, I agree. I want to win NC as much as anyone. But it's probably not happening. Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #60
Don't you just love it? n/t Duval Nov 2012 #41
My vote won't count, due to the Electoral College, but I'm voting anyway. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2012 #47
Mandate tevolit Nov 2012 #53
It helps the popular vote JB126 Nov 2012 #54
Comit to vote and get your friends out to vote too! wisteria Nov 2012 #48
Ain't math Great? Yul A Nov 2012 #56
Actually, it's a small incremental change, from 300.4 to 303.2 Coyotl Nov 2012 #57
VA >66% Obama likelihood!!! dsharp88 Nov 2012 #61
looks good but somehow demokatgurrl Nov 2012 #62
me too sometimes..nt Walk away Nov 2012 #64
You are mad sellitman Nov 2012 #63

ShadowLiberal

(2,237 posts)
1. Wow, I never imagined we'd see his numbers go back up that high a month ago
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:09 PM
Nov 2012

Great to see more good news from 538.

Romney's only hope right now is basically that the polls are all wildly off, and polling averages (which 538 is heavily based off of) have only called 5 states wrong in presidential elections since 2000

MADem

(135,425 posts)
43. And if Dems get complacent and don't show up to vote. It ain't over till it's over.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:26 PM
Nov 2012

We need to fight like we're twenty points behind.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
3. I just don't believe that Nate Silver would put his ENTIRE reputation on the line. I put trust in
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:12 PM
Nov 2012

what he is predicting!

zwyziec

(173 posts)
4. Nevada
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:12 PM
Nov 2012

Nate's overview of Nevada, as a state with a lot of Mormons, devastated economy, housing market crash, a state where Romney and Ryan should be twenty points up. Yet President Obama is well ahead. Says a lot about the Romney/Ryan ticket!

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
8. Its says a lot as to how well the GOP has driven off all minorities. Not just African Americans. nt
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:13 PM
Nov 2012

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
5. The "Now Cast" is equal to where it was on September 9th!
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:12 PM
Nov 2012


Obama is taking back nearly everything that was lost during that first debate.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
6. Woot woot!
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:12 PM
Nov 2012


We can't rest. Just a few days to go!!! Plenty of time to make calls to the swing states to GOTV. I so want to see nc turn blue again! It's a long shot, but you have to think big sometimes.

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
13. Darn right!
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:16 PM
Nov 2012

I'm taking Monday and Tuesday off work to canvass and GOTV. Got Sunday afternoon penciled in as well. We've got to win NC!!!!

zwyziec

(173 posts)
9. The State that Romney did so very much for!
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:14 PM
Nov 2012

Today's MA poll shows President Obama up 32 POINTS!!!

That poll shows what the people of MA think about Governor Romney and what he's done for the state.

Romney's toast!

http://www.latinospost.com/articles/6227/20121030/latest-massachusetts-presidential-election-poll-2012-obama.htm

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
45. Great, now let's elect Elizabeth Warren to the Senate as well!!
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:34 PM
Nov 2012

And fix that horrid mistake that was made on Jan. 19, 2010.

Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
15. A quick look at the states
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:17 PM
Nov 2012

Ohio: Obama 80.3%

Virginia: Obama 65.9%

Florida: Obama 44.8%

Wisconsin: Obama 91.2%

Colorado: Obama 64.5%

Iowa: Obama 78.6%

New Hampshire: Obama 77.5%

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
22. On Oct. 4th the President was at 87.1. Tonight he is at 80.8
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:26 PM
Nov 2012


This means he is only 6.3 points off of his all time high in the 538 Presidential forecast model!



He is peaking at exactly the right time.


The first debate edge has been erased.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
58. The first debate edge has been erased.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:27 PM
Nov 2012

Yes, it took a lot of hard work by Romney
but he finally managed to erase it.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
23. Has anyone noticed?
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:26 PM
Nov 2012

Obama is only 6 points off his all time high in the odds of winning? He maxed out at 87% on the day after the first debate. He is within striking distance of that number again.

CBHagman

(16,986 posts)
50. That I hadn't heard!
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:47 PM
Nov 2012

My head is fairly spinning from all the figures being flung around here, but it really all does come down to electoral votes in the end.

sheshe2

(83,793 posts)
42. Make it SO!
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:25 PM
Nov 2012

I am from MA. but I so want that guy to go down in flames!

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Widdle Eric....Palin impersonator!

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
40. Gravis Marketing
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:21 PM
Nov 2012

He has it up 8 points


That is why I went after Gravis.


If NC is lost to Romney, Romney has no chance.


If Romney has no chance he wouldn't have gotten a big bump in contributions a couple of weeks ago.


If NC was a toss up or a Democratic win the election is over Romney has no path to 270.


We have something like 700,000 more Democrats in NC than Republicans its just about GOTV, no one can say we don't have a chance in NC.


NC is the lid on the Romney/Ryan coffin.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
44. Ahh Gravis...
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:29 PM
Nov 2012

BS pollster extraordinaire weighing things down.

Makes sense this thing called logic.

Thanks!

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
52. Take Gravis out and Romney would still lead.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:54 PM
Nov 2012

The reason 538 has NC so strong for Romney is that Obama hasn't led in a poll there for a month, and that 538 level of certainly is odds of victory by any margin, not margin of victory.

Without Gravis Romney's lead would be smaller. That's all.

We would have to throw out all the pollsters we don't like. I genuinely don't like Rasmussen or Survey USA, and if we throw out those two plus Gravis then we are left with PPP saying it's a tie.

But that is the same as saying, "I think PPP is right and all other polls are wrong." And that is a perfectly reasonable opinion to hold, but we can't sensibly denigrate a poll aggregator for failing to throw out every poll except the one we like.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
59. That's just not true. Take out Gravis (and Ras who Nate only gives 2 bars to)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:30 PM
Nov 2012
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

And the last 8 polls show 3 with Obama ahead (+3,+3,+1), 2 ties and 2 polls that show Romney ahead by 1 point and Survey USA (+5).


For some reason Nate gives the pro Obama polls only 1 or 2 bars and gives Gravis 4 bars.

There is no convincing polling data that gives NC a lock for Romney. An 80% lock for winning is just without any emperical evidence.
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
60. Look, I agree. I want to win NC as much as anyone. But it's probably not happening.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:31 PM
Nov 2012

Obama just might pull it off, who knows, but I don't suspect he will. It'll be narrow, of course, but there is a reason Obama isn't focusing on the state in the final days of the campaign.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
47. My vote won't count, due to the Electoral College, but I'm voting anyway.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:35 PM
Nov 2012

Over 3.5 million of us Texans voted for Obama in 2008, but it didn't make our state go Democratic.

JB126

(165 posts)
54. It helps the popular vote
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:16 PM
Nov 2012

If he wins the electoral vote, but not the popular vote, the repubs will claim he's not legitimate. So every vote counts, even in the red states!

 

Yul A

(94 posts)
56. Ain't math Great?
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:27 PM
Nov 2012

Republicans don't believe in it, of course. They perfer Magic, like a Big Invisible Man in the Sky.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
57. Actually, it's a small incremental change, from 300.4 to 303.2
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:27 PM
Nov 2012

***** Official Pre-Election Electoral College Vote = Predictions Thread *****
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021644060

Electoral votes +9.1 since Oct. 25, popular vote +0.3.

When Florida finally goes into Nate's tally, that will be a nice jump!

dsharp88

(487 posts)
61. VA >66% Obama likelihood!!!
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 12:38 AM
Nov 2012

And CO >64%!
FL still for Romney, but down to just 55.1%. Almost a complete tossup there.
NV and OH >80% and IA and NH almost to 80% as well!

demokatgurrl

(3,931 posts)
62. looks good but somehow
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 11:37 AM
Nov 2012

I can't bear to get my hopes up. So little faith in my fellow voters. Fucking sad, I know.

sellitman

(11,607 posts)
63. You are mad
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 07:26 PM
Nov 2012

Every right wingnut I know is thoroughly convinced it will be a RobMe landslide of epic proportions.

Seriously.

They are going to be so much fun to confront when they learn the truth. I'm so looking forward to it.

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