Hillary needs to lay her cards on the table.

[kentuck]

Does she want the Bernie supporters or not?

Does she think she can win without them? Or does she think they will come to her side automatically once the primary is over? That is a huge gamble.

The Democrats will need all the help they can get to win against the Trumpster. They cannot afford to write anyone off.

It appears, at this time, that Hillary may get the sufficient number of delegates to be the Democratic nominee but winning the primary is very different from winning the general.

I think Hillary should be asking herself, "who would Bernie nominate as his VP if he were to win the primary?" Then she should put that person at the top of her possible VP list. It will not be easy to pull in the disenchanted Democrats that are supporting Bernie Sanders. Who could Hillary pick as her VP that would appease the Bernie supporters that are not real crazy about her?

It will be up to the victor of the primary to reach out. It will take more than just words.

[highprincipleswork]

1. No kidding. It should be pretty easy, if you're a Progressive or what we may call a True Democrat

to win over the Bernie side.

It's the waffling and disappointing, and corporate money and kowtowing to special interests that makes you wonder sometimes if the Clintons and the party leaders are in what we traditionally call the Democratic Party at all.

Frankly, I think they'r still traumatized by the success of Ronald Reagan, to the point where they can't think straight but only come up with complex, bullshit, dishonest scheme like "triangulation" and "compromise.

But the Reagan Revolution is over. Trump's nomination proves it. And we should exploit that, as the loyal Progressive Democrats that we are.

If they miss this opportunity, or we allow them to do so, the Democratic Party will have only half a party, or worse, and things will look pretty bad from here.

[MFM008]

2. The winner on her knees?

begging people that wont vote for her anyway?

[floriduck]

3. That's the spirit. You need to run her campaign. And learn the words President Trump.

[Matt_in_STL]

4. Wow. You picked an incredibly sexist metaphor for your post.

[kentuck]

6. Begging? On her knees?

Exaggerate much?

[Scootaloo]

20. Well, really?

WILLIAMSON, W.Va. — Hillary Clinton’s campaign is trying to seize on the turmoil Donald J. Trump’s ascent has caused within the Republican Party, hoping to gain the support of Republican voters and party leaders including former elected officials and retired generals disillusioned by their party’s standard-bearer.

The efforts come after the House speaker, Paul D. Ryan, on Thursday said he was “just not ready” to back Mr. Trump, comments the Clinton campaign giddily blasted out in an email and on social media. At the same time, Priorities USA Action, a “super PAC” supporting Mrs. Clinton, intends to reach out to Republican megadonors disillusioned by their party’s presumptive nominee.

More broadly, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign is repositioning itself, after a year of emphasizing liberal positions and focusing largely on minority voters, to also appeal to independent and Republican-leaning white voters turned off by Mr. Trump.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/us/politics/hillary-clinton-republican-party.html

So. Think you can explain to me why she can "get on her knees" (your term, not the OP's) to appease and "beg" (you, again) for Racist Republican voters... but can't offer any sort of outreach to liberals in her own party?

[aikoaiko]

5. What does it matter? She'll say one thing now and something different later if needed.

In the words of Yane Ndgo, "We don't trust what she says and we don't like what she has done."

[snowy owl]

19. that's the darned truth.

[workinclasszero]

7. Sigh...another day, another 50 blackmail posts from Bern fans.

So any suggestions for VP?

[kentuck]

9. Blackmail?

How about some representation?

[doc03]

11. The only one they would accept is Bernie I guess they have pretty

much ran everyone else down with their bus.

[jamese777]

8. Deja Vu All Over Again!

In 2008 disgruntled primary election Clinton supporters vowed NEVER to support Barack Obama. They formed PUMA (Party Unity My Ass) and searched for a third party candidate. Barack Obama beat John McCain by 10 million votes and Donald Trump is much worse than John McCain.
If Senator Sanders wasn't going to be 75 years old by the time of the election, he'd be my first choice for VP.

[kentuck]

10. How about Elizabeth Warren for VP?

Would that appeal to the Bernie supporters?

Two women on the ballot? Yeah! It's about time!

[BillZBubb]

15. Hopefully, Ms. Warren is smart enough to stay away from that.

[snowy owl]

21. We need both Sanders and Warren in Senate. Have you forgotten obstructionism?

[kentuck]

24. I think a Democrat might be able to win Warren's seat?

If she were to be the VP? Just a hunch.

[BillZBubb]

14. Hillary Clinton is not Barack Obama.

Making any comparison between this race and that is absurd. People believed Obama's "Hope and Change" message and rallied to it. Only Hillary cultists are rallying to her "Little hope and Incremental change" message.

[tularetom]

29. Don't you think he might have something to say about that?

I have serious doubts she'd consider asking him to join the ticket, and even more serious doubts that he would give it more than one second of thought before telling her no. As paranoid as she is she would never select a running mate so much smarter and more charismatic than she is.

I'd be less shocked if she selected Ted Cruz.

[Buzz cook]

38. And then the PUMAs fell in line

After Clinton's gracious concession at the convention.

I'm not holding my breath that Sanders supporters will do the same.

Oh and by the by the Clinton supporters had to develop a name so they could be identified. With Sanders supporters that name is, Sanders supporters.

[firebrand80]

12. Bernie should lay his on the table

Stop being vague about "letting us into the process," and tell her what you really want. Get together and hammer out a deal.

[snowy owl]

25. He wants everyone to vote. The whole state of Oregon voted Bernie. Not one county HRC. None.

Oregonians wanted their turn and so does every other state that hasn't yet primaried. Let Clinton pivot to Trump. Bernie's not stopping her. And quit your whining. It all sounds like sour grapes from the establishment.

[dubyadiprecession]

13. She doesn't have to do anything for you..

She owes you nothing and you will get nothing and like it.

[BillZBubb]

16. Sort of what's it been like for the left for decades.

Meekly fall in line and accept whatever crumbs the lesser of two evils grants you.

[kentuck]

18. Thank you very much.

O Master. I will rush down and vote for whomever you wish...

[snowy owl]

26. So why the whining from her side?

[timlot]

17. Hillary doesn't have to do a damn thing.

Like I've said before whether she wins the presidency or not. She will still be filthy rich walking around with Secret Service protection the rest of her life. The American people will be the victim of Bernie supporters short sighted agenda. Trump gets to nominate 2-3 Supreme Court justices, racist polices all over the place, and trickle down economics run a muck. But, hey man its all about the Revolution.

[kentuck]

23. Perhaps the best thing that can happen to our country and Party...

...is President Trump?


The "revolution" that you speak of is called "democracy". If you cannot compromise, you do not deserve the support of anyone.

[snowy owl]

27. Agreed. HRC supporters want us to settle for less. They should support B and "settle" for more.

I just don't get them. It is all about loyalty and personality. Oh man, I want true healthcare, good jobs, regulations on food and safety and all that good stuff we once thought was important in this country. We set the standard for many European countries who now are enjoyed the quality of life and standard of living we thought we'd have. Unbelievable.

[kentuck]

28. We are not worthy!

We are not worthy!

[timlot]

31. Democracy?

You mean the system in which people vote for their representatives (thats the definition). Like the 3+million more people who voted that Hillary would be a better representative for the Democratic nominee for President. OK

[kentuck]

32. Then what?

What does she win?

[timlot]

33. She wins the honor and privilege of serving the American people.

Voters have spoken.

[kentuck]

36. No. She wins the honor of running against Donald Trump...

...and he has already "framed" her before the election. Thirty years of baggage, regardless of its merits, has taken a toll on Hillary. The opponents' campaign to brand her as a liar, a criminal, as "crooked", has taken hold with too many of our citizens, whether we like it or not. She needs all the help she can get to beat the Trumpster. She does not have the luxury of backhanding those progressives that might disagree with her. Familiarity has bred contempt.

[timlot]

41. I see the exhaustive Trump coverage has you shook.

I'm not worried about it because ultimately its up to Hillary or Bernie to make the case for themselves. We are all just one vote. Once you truly realize that you are at peace with whatever the outcome is. I actually like Bernie and would have been fine with him as the nominee, but I was ok with Hillary too. At least with a democrat in office our issues would be on an agenda. Whether they would be attended to is another story. Don't know what will be the priorities of a Trump administration. Scary thought, but like I said we're all just one vote. Pray

[kentuck]

42. That is a scary thought.

Indeed.

[NCTraveler]

22. +1 For all of it.

"They cannot afford to write anyone off. "

[Bad Thoughts]

30. Maybe she can compromise with Progressives

People here keep telling me she's good at compromise.

[Amimnoch]

34. Well, neither candidate will lay it out while the primary is still going.

It's not over yet.

When it is, I believe they will come together on a United front.

I believe both of our candidates are better than the majority of their supporters.

I don't know about the VP pic, but personally, I'd love to see Hillary appoint Bernie as her Secretary of the Treasury, and let him go at it.

It's been a rough primary season (still is). Either of our candidates will have fences to mend in a GE. Speculation only, but I do feel most Bernie supporters who are willing to consider voting for Clinton in the GE will likely end up doing so. Those who won't.. Won't. Those who are exceptionally bitter may even go so far as to go the Trump route.. I'm thinking those numbers are extremely small, and any who do never got Bernie's message to begin with.

[Buzz cook]

35. To quote Sanders, the primaries aren't over or

to use your metaphor the game ain't over. Why lay down her hand when all indications are(continuing the poker metaphor) that she should raise the stakes instead.

It's time for Sanders to "call" or "fold" before the pot odds go to high for him to continue.

What is it that Sanders want from the winner? What is the prize that will make Sanders supporters vote for Clinton?

[kentuck]

37. I think Bernie's are looking for a change.

From the present Democratic Party establishment rules. They want to focus more on the people's needs and less on the needs of corporations and Wall Street, I think?

[Buzz cook]

39. I am willing to bet that Clinton would go for rule changes

But those rules will have to be at the national level. I don't think she'll have the ability to change much at the state level.

[kentuck]

40. I hope she does.

We need to put our Party back on the track. The People's Party should not even be in competition with a bloviating billionaire, but we are.