Stupid lies like the one Jon Ralston told are why Hillary has like 8% support among Millennials.

[reformist2]

The same lies and smears that used to sway the populace back when there were only 3 or 4 media outlets, now they completely backfire in the age of the internet. Young people already know the stories well before most reporters write about them. When reporters try to put on their spin on the story, the internet community immediately investigates the story and figure out that it's total bs within minutes. The net effect is that support for the establishment drops even further, lower than if idiots like Jon Ralston hadn't tried anything at all.

[Tavarious Jackson]

1. He didn't lie

NV was not an anomaly. Bernie supporters have been threatening violence for months. Ask the superdelegates...

[arcane1]

3. At least the Brock-puppets are kicking some money to DU now, to appear legitimate.

It's literally the least they can do.

[QC]

51. Plus they can write it off as a business expense

under the deduction for uniforms.

[workinclasszero]

4. Yes they have been receiving death threats for months

Now that the bros have escalated it to children in Nevada, it finally made the news.

[mindwalker_i]

21. Link?

Or is this pure rectal extraction?

[jaded_old_cynic]

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[mindwalker_i]

41. Thank you for posting this

I appreciate your comment as well.

[jaded_old_cynic]

42. No problem.

It really is the silly season, isn't it?

[mindwalker_i]

55. Yep, it definitely is

[TheSarcastinator]

6. but you ignore the ACTUAL VIOLENCE perpetrated

by Hillary supporters. So much hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.

[reformist2]

7. He totally lied. He admits he wasn't even there when said "chair" was thrown. By the way, bfd.

[ThePhilosopher04]

12. He lied. There were no threats or violence

from Bernie supporters. Americans are catching on to the Clinton/Corp media game plan.

[Tavarious Jackson]

16. There have been threats for months.

On Senators FB pages, messages, threats of Unseating supers.....

[ThePhilosopher04]

18. Not from Bernie supporters.

[Tavarious Jackson]

19. Yes. Even Elizabeth Warren was harassed... You know that.

[Bluenorthwest]

24. Where are the charges, the arrests? Such acts are illegal, they are crimes. Where is your

evidence? You provide none. Because no police reports have been made, because these persons did not feel any need to do so. Because getting an angry phone call goes with that job.

[Agschmid]

28. The hypocrisy here is astounding.

[Dem2]

34. OMG!! Nobody is in jail! It must not have happened.

The list goes on... misogyny, doubt the accusers of assault ... what's next? Rape denialism? Birtherism?

[Agschmid]

36. Henry Kissinger is not in jail, guess he isn't a war criminal anymore?

[Dem2]

50. Dick Cheney is just any old VP

Cuz he's not in jail for war crimes.

Darn shame I say.

[cui bono]

22. Well there was ACTUAL physical violence by a male Hillary supporter who assaulted a woman.

Are you appalled by that?

What about the shooting of a Bernie campaign office? Is that okay with you?

How about vandalizing campaign worker's homes? Haven't heard Hillary fans speak out against that.

Kiddie porn getting posted online by Hillary supporters in order to shut down Bernie FB pages... I guess that's okay with you too.

And that's not even bringing up that you Hillary (Brock?) fans care more about the people who are defending democracy's actions than actual democracy. Cheating and stealing delegates is just fine. We should just stand by and thank that unethical woman for running a corrupt caucus.

.

[cui bono]

23. Yeah, and there have been many Hillary supporters posing as Bernie supporters

and we know that Brock has hired many paid trolls to help Hillary as well. Probably those things came from one of those two groups of people. I mean when you pretend to be a supporter of an opposing candidate you have already demonstrated you have no ethics or principles, so it's a good bet that's what happened.

.

[JimDandy]

33. He provably lied and admitted in an interview that he wasn't even there, and had zero evidence

for his claims of violence.

Jonathan Capehart and Jonathan Ralston... reporters who both lied in service of their candidate, Hillary Clinton, in order to smear Bernie Sanders, an outstanding, compassionate, trustworthy, genuine candidate.

You can have Hillary. We want nothing more to do with such a corrupt and thoroughly compromised person.

[Fawke Em]

46. Yes he did.

He started the chair-throwing shit.

No one threw a chair.

[Kelvin Mace]

52. Threatening someone with violence is a crime

Could you provide a link to stories where charges were filed and/or people were arrested? How about a story detailing a criminal investigation of said threats?

[hedda_foil]

53. Oh look, a newbie Brockster.

[St Aug girl]

2. Reformist2-you are so right!

[anotherproletariat]

5. The reason we need to talk up what happened at the NV convention is because it works

to sway voters. I was out canvassing for 2 hours this morning, and most people had not heard of the violence in NV, but were very concerned when we told them about it. Best talking point I have found yet out in the 'real world.' (If the SF Bay Area can be considered the real world!)

[lagomorph777]

13. You mean you are admitting you plan to perpetuate a proven lie?

Holy cow that's amazing honesty.

[anotherproletariat]

14. It's all over the network and cable news. I don't say anything, just show clips I've downloaded to

my phone. Besides, everything I've heard from people I trust is that it really happened. But, keep saying it is a lie...maybe it will stick.

[lagomorph777]

15. Yeah, show me the f-in video that's more than some yelling, or one guy

who was calmed down by Bernie supporters before he actually lost it.

Otherwise, in a room with hundreds of cellphones, absence of proof is most definitely proof of absence.

[reformist2]

20. The lies are all over cable news. Which very, very few people under 50 watch.

Most people are plugged into social media, and they already knew what happened before cable news jumped on it with their spin on it, a day late and a dollar short.

[Bluenorthwest]

27. But you don't mention the actual man actually arrested for assault on a woman because he's

for Hillary. That's dastardly exploitative.

[anotherproletariat]

37. Most people understand that individual actions can be aberrant, while groups actions which seem

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coordinated are more nefarious.

[oasis]

44. Correct. "Most people understand". nt

[Land of Enchantment]

35. Working on that 'trust issue' are we? What do you think those people are going to do when

they discover your 'videos' about violence are all falsehoods. Another lost voter for your side.

Keep up the good work!!!!!

[anotherproletariat]

38. The facts and eye witness account all seem to be on our side. I'm happy to use them for as long as

possible. Obviously, if evidence is found to the contrary, then I would stop using the videos.

[SwampG8r]

43. So when the LIE is provable then you'll stop telling it?

[anotherproletariat]

45. I don't think it is a lie, and video doesn't lie. It shows out of control, hateful people.

If some huge story comes out that says the whole thing was a movie, then yes, I would stop showing the video.

[Fawke Em]

49. Then stop using the videos.

No chair was thrown. There was no violence.

Yes, there was yelling, but that's not violence.

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/status/732619789424832512/video/1

[hedda_foil]

56. I wonder just which site you downloaded those very special clips from.

Actually, no I don't wonder at all. It's one of Brock's propaganda sites. This whole thing is such an obviously coordinated attack over nothing. It's even worth than the phony Howard Dean amplified "scream."

The term of art is ratfucking.

[anotherproletariat]

57. The best one yet was on MSNBC just now. Including the yelling at Sen. Boxer.

No idea who Brock is...but I will google it. Sounds interesting.

[St Aug girl]

8. I read that Ralston admitted yesterday

that he left the convention before the end and took his story from that of another local reporter. It is like playing whisper down the alley. Guess this shows I am a late boomer.

[reformist2]

10. Sounds like Jon Ralston has destroyed his credibility, and career. Unless Hilary wins, of course.

Then he'll probably be made press secretary!

[Peregrine Took]

9. And then with all the scolding by the DNC/DLC that followed - are they insane?

I wonder how many more voters are going "Bernie or Bust" after the admonishments?

They should be making nice nice with us instead of insulting us.

Not that it would matter much at this point but they should still be trying.

[Tavarious Jackson]

17. Can't make nice with someone who HATES us

and says so on every rally he does.

[cui bono]

25. Link to quotes please. n/t

[arcane1]

26. The Brock-puppet scripts don't include links to quotes.

Their job is to "correct" the record, not "create" a record

[cui bono]

29. I think it's "corrupt" the record.

Saw a hashtag in a post in the last few days... #CorruptTheRecord

Sadly, it's true.

.

[arcane1]

30. Good one!

[Bluenorthwest]

32. That's a lie. And I am an Oregonian, the Democrats here just gave Bernie a large Democratic

victory. You are besmirching the Democrats of my State. You are doing so without any evidence offered, it's nasty ass toxic behavior.

[apnu]

48. They should be making nice, you are correct.

Bernie supporters are realizing they're losing this thing. And that hurts to have worked so hard and loved Bernie so much and to come up short. The Democratic Primary process is overly complicated, cumbersome, and confusing. Its rife with mistakes and other issues. Its very frustrating.

Bernie supporters are desperate and upset, they are acting it. I also suspect some conservative operatives in this are sowing chaos because I find it very hard to believe actual Bernie supporters would Dox Roberta Lange and harass her and the company she works for so much.

However, it is on Hillary's side to extend an olive branch and start to calm things down. Because 1) that's what adults do, 2) that's what good winners do, and 3) if they want to harness this energy and new voters, this is where they start.

Bernie and his supporters have nothing to lose, they can simply sit this one out once Hillary has all the delegates she needs, and hamstring her in the GE. Pissing off Bernie supporters doesn't help.

I voted for Bernie, but will gladly support Clinton in the GE. Around here I'm somewhere in the middle between the two camps. I won't take a piss on Bernie people.

[BlueStater]

11. Maybe it's because Hillary is an uninspiring, status quo candidate who excites no one.

She's been center stage in the public eye longer than many of today's voters have been ALIVE. Almost no one under 30 is enthused at the prospect of having another Clinton in the White House.

She should have gone the fuck away after the 2008 election. That's one thing I won't forgive Barack Obama for. Making her his SOS and keeping her relevant when the country was clearly ready to move on from these fucking people.

[YouDig]

31. Can you translate what "like 8%" means from #berniemath to regular math?

[AzDar]

39. K & R

[timmymoff]

47. Can you imagine these people in a real situation.

I do not mean the people in Nevada, I mean the posters here. About to shit their pants over a few people screaming. No wonder our nation is in such shape we have a corporate party of the afraid. Shit if people like you were around and involved in any movement for the betterment of America, you sure as shit lost your nerve now. People yelling scares you so that your heart's a flutter? My oh my what has happened to the supposed liberals?

[winter is coming]

54. IMO, the biggest divide in this election isn't along racial, gender, or socioeconomic boundaries.

It's the people who trust their televisions vs. people who don't.