I wonder how many of her attackers realized Roberta Lange is a Bernie endorser?

[pnwmom]

And I wonder if her experience at the caucus has given her pause.

http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-get-control-get-out-race-461195

From Newsweek:

The unseemly tirade of Sanders supporters was a marvel, the kind of behavior more likely to be seen among British soccer hooligans than people claiming to be interested in politics. A chair was thrown. People screamed “bitch!” at Senator Barbara Boxer, a staunch liberal from California. Even the Nevada state Democratic chairwoman, Roberta Lange, who had endorsed Sanders, needed a security detail just to go to the bathroom in order to protect her from the hypocritical “humanity lovers” who seem to hate everyone but themselves and their idol.

Afterwards, the goons kept up their hostile hysterics. Protesters vandalized the offices of the state Democratic Party. Lange’s personal contact information, including her cellphone number, were posted online, and she has since received thousands of death threats, according to state party officials. One of the text messages to Lange said, “Praying to god someone shoots you in the FACE and blows your democracy-stealing head off!” (Only in the delusions of Bernie-land could democracy be stolen when the winner of the popular vote was winning.) Voicemails obtained by Jon Ralston, the dean of Nevada political reporters, contain such delightful statements as “people like you should be hung in a public execution…you are a sick, twisted piece of sh*t and I hope you burn for this!” And, “You f**king stupid bitch! What the hell are you doing? You’re a f**king corrupt bitch!” And, “You’re a c*nt. F**k you!” And, “You probably just guaranteed fire is in Philadelphia.”

Yeah, these are exactly the kind of people who Americans want to have as the next president’s base—vicious, sociopathic misogynists. And their threats of violence at the convention is just another sign that Sanders could go down as one of the most destructive forces in American history. Riots and flames at the convention—a repeat of the chaos of the 1968 Democratic Convention—would help open the White House doors for Donald Trump when compared to a nose-holding coronation by Republicans at their gathering in Cleveland.

Meanwhile, Sanders reacts with mealy-mouthed mumbles, saying he doesn’t support violence while doing literally nothing about it, and claiming that—contrary to the statements of witnesses, reporters and video recordings—his violent supporters aren’t violent. Trump would be proud of the disingenuous delusions vomited up by the candidate.

[LonePirate]

1. I think it's obvious most Bernie supporters assumed she was in the tank for Hillary.

I suspect it is inconceivable to many of them that a Bernie supporter would adhere to the rules as solidly as she did.

[ThePhilosopher04]

18. She's not a Bernie endorser nor does she support him. More lies.

[LonePirate]

25. Do you have a source that contradicts the Newsweek report in the OP?

[ThePhilosopher04]

29. I don't need one. Her actions on Saturday are proof positive.

She may lie and try to make cover for herself after the fact but that bullshit ain't flyin.

[LonePirate]

33. Ah, so you're fact free here and relying on your gut? Thank you for conceding that point.

[ThePhilosopher04]

74. Facts are there for all to see. You know damn good and well

She's a Hillary supporter, cut the bullshit.

[MrWendel]

101. She became one...

when she didn't pass the purity test.

[puffy socks]

52. Oh geez

Another person who thinks he's "the decider"

.

[riversedge]

53. LOL. fact free Sanders fan.

[Cal33]

72. When a person says she is one thing, and her behavior shows that she is the opposite, which

would you choose to believe, her acts or her words?

[Dem2]

77. This is uncalled for

C'mon, we can't lose our minds over an election that's been decided by the people.

Is all this hate over a few delegates going to change the outcome?

[lovemydog]

97. I guess solipsism can be considered

a form of philosophy.

[aikoaiko]

36. She's not listed on Bernie's site or the more neutral wiki page.

http://feelthebern.org/endorsements-for-bernie-sanders/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016


I suspect she once said she's likes Bernie, but....

[LonePirate]

41. Thanks for sharing those links.

That Newsweek article seems to be all we have to go by for now.

[TCJ70]

2. I know it's not entirely reliable...but she's not on the list...

...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016 . Also, wouldn't you generally cite that endorsement? It's not linked to anything.

[Tavarious Jackson]

3. She said last night

She was a Bernie delegate but is NOW unbound.

[peace13]

5. Of course she did.

[JCanete]

9. yeah, on the face sounds like perfect bullshit. NT

[merrily]

10. I don't believe her for a second.

[Tavarious Jackson]

12. I'm sure you don't

I am asking sincerely, who do you believe besides Bernie's campaign?

[merrily]

13. I don't believe things that are contrary to common sense. I feel no obligation to answer insulting

and ridiculous questions.

[uponit7771]

50. The podium bird... its more credible to them

[Tavarious Jackson]

57. Lol

In all seriousness. This is how dictators first rose to power. They had a lot of people believing everyone and all were liars and not credible unless they 100% were with the dictator...

[frylock]

64. SQUAWK!

[seabeyond]

68. She was trying to be fair because of the facts. Sanders people did not listen to reason, just made

demands and insisted they be followed. When they were not, she was the one attacked.

[ThePhilosopher04]

19. Bullshit

[enlightenment]

39. She opens her mouth and words fall out.

That doesn't mean they are true.

In January, she was uncommitted: See this pdf put out by the DNC - https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6070545/Unpledged_as_of_1.21.16.0.pdf


In February, she was still uncommitted: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/269348-clinton-has-superdelegate-edge-in-nevada-south-carolina

Roberta Lange, state party chair (Neutral): Lange has decided to stay neutral, as many party leaders have ahead of contests in their state. A former county Democratic chair, she served as former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson’s state director during his failed bid for the presidency in 2008.

By April, she was still uncommitted:

April: https://www.laprogressive.com/who-are-the-superdelegates/

477 Harry Reid NV Sen. Clinton
478 Dina Titus NV Rep. Clinton
479 Artie Blanco NV DNC None
480 Roberta Lange NV DNC None
481 Chris Wicker NV DNC None
482 Erin Bilbray NV DNC Sanders

But SUDDENLY in May she became a Sanders supporter??

[kiva]

40. Those pigs are really flapping those wings!

[frylock]

65. Please make this an OP.

[me b zola]

96. I second that motion

BAM! In your face Roberta! Your gavel can't push me off the stage.

[JimDandy]

105. She has been listed as Uncommitted as late as April and Sanders has no endorsement from her

What's your source for: "She said last night she was a Bernie delegate but is NOW unbound"?

[w4rma]

4. She is a professional liar. She "endorses" the candidate she sabotages. (nt)

[Tarc]

11. Or maybe, she upholds the rules regardless of who she supports?

[LonePirate]

14. Surely there is a public record of what delegates each candidate sent to the convention.

Of course there will be people who refuse to believe any such evidence because it doesn't align with the story they are peddling.

[w4rma]

21. Videos of delegates making motions to count the delegates and having those motions ignored. (nt)

[pnwmom]

24. As it was, they ran 4 hours over their time and were kicked out by the hotel for running

over their contract. If they had to count all the delegates every time, how many more hours would they have needed?

And what items were so important that they had to attack Lange about them?

[w4rma]

26. She gave herself dictatorial powers, ignored delegates at the convention and refused to hard count

any vote taken, because she knew that after the delegates were signed in and seated, there were more Bernie delegates at the convention than Hillary delegates. Even her count only gave Hillary a ~30 delegate advantage while ~60 of Bernie's delegates were barred from the caucus.

One of her rule changes, that she declared "passed" by voice vote, made her job permanent and never up for reelection unless she quits. I want no part of any group of people that support theses things to get their power over others.

[pnwmom]

30. The credentials committee, which was made up 50/50 of Bernie and Hillary supporters,

agreed that the 56 didn't qualify. (Eight others were allowed to participate.)

Did you know that those 56 didn't even show up to the caucus? Probably because they knew they lacked the credentials.

[w4rma]

85. Don't lie. To do this crap is why they removed Christine Kramar from the committee.

[pnwmom]

86. You are falsely accusing me of lying. She was replaced by another Sanders person.

There were equal numbers of Sanders and Clinton people on the credentials committee, including the two co-chairs.

But since you mention Christine Kramar, Wonkette explains why she was removed (and why Wonkette is no longer endorsing Bernie Sanders.):

That’s the same Christine Kramar who, it was alleged, sent emails to Hillary Clinton delegates telling them they didn’t need to show up to be counted. When the Clinton camp complained she might be slightly biased, she staged a sit-in and demanded to be arrested. So that’s who was “threatened with arrest.” We never wrote about that either because we didn’t want Bernie people to sound nuts.

I am fucking sorry to endorse Hillary Clinton, and I mean it. The Democratic primary was a good, hard, fair race in which both candidates showed the nutballs at the Trump rallies how to run a clean campaign. I was proud of all of us. While some — including the president — were calling for supporters to unite behind Hillary, and for Bernie to drop out, I thought such calls were misguided. Hell, when does the 10 percent of the country that lives in California ever get to vote! More democracy is more gooderer!

But the Sanders campaign is now relying on Alex Jones-style conspiracies — if a Republican county clerk in Arizona shuts down a whole bunch of primary precincts because Hillary Clinton told her to, then Hillary Clinton is probably really good at getting shit done! — and flat out fucking lies to get its way. It hasn’t had any kind of intellectual consistency for months now as first it excoriated superdelegates as undemocratic even as they mirrored the popular vote, and then called for superdelegates to overthrow the will of the people by going for the candidate who has received fewer votes. (As one example, and they are legion.)

Enough of those intellectual flip-flops — and now victim-blaming the Nevada Democrats for dressing like that!

Look. These things happen. One side wins and one side loses. And barring Hillary starting a nuclear war with her emails, math says she’s going to be our nominee. And we’re real sad Bernie’s campaign is ending up this way, and as a person whose infant daughter endorsed Bernie YEARS ago before she was even in the womb, we respectfully ask Bernie to CUT THE SHIT and be the man we always gave him credit for being.

We’ll take our check now, thanks, Mr. Brock.

Read more at http://wonkette.com/601971/nice-grandpa-bernie-sanders-gonna-burn-your-sht-dowwwwwn#mJd3uXGU5eSoDhtx.99

[w4rma]

88. Fine. You're repeating lies. Here is the story of the e-mails.

"I followed up with the Clark County Democratic Party and received an email indicating that committed delegates who checked in at the Friday night meeting DID have their votes counted on Saturday. So the Email was not fraudulent. It turns out that the only reason that Sanders won the county convention was because large numbers of Clinton delegates simply didn't think it was important enough to bother showing up at either event. The caucus voters who voted for Hillary Clinton should be enraged, not at Sanders or his supporters, but at their own elected delegates."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1648403

[pnwmom]

94. Your story of the county level caucuses has nothing to do with what happened at the state caucuses,

where hundreds of Bernie supporters didn't show up. Oh well.

[w4rma]

95. And, boom, you change the subject. (nt)

[Number23]

93. He's lost Wonkette, the Rude Pundit and a superdelegate in the last 36 hours

Not to mention Kentucky which, given the demographics there, should have been his comfortably.

He's having one HELL of a week, ain't he??

[LonePirate]

28. That's not what I was seeking.

Everybody at this state convention had been selected or appointed or elected at some point in the past, perhaps at the county conventions several weeks back. The results of those county conventions would presumably contain the names of delegates for each candidate. That would tell us if Lange was attending in support of one of the candidates. She may have simply been attending in her official capacity without being a delegate.

[apnu]

60. There is, the NVDems had a count at the door.

@NVDems stated:

* Based on the county convention results, Bernie Sanders had 2,124 delegate slots to the State Convention and Hillary Clinton had 1,722 delegate slots to the State Convention.

* On Saturday at the State Convention, after all of the alternates were seated, Hillary Clinton filled 1,695 of her delegate slots and Bernie Sanders only filled 1,662 at the State Convention — giving Clinton a 33-delegate margin of victory.

* Clinton only had 27 delegate positions vacant on Saturday. Sanders left 462 vacant. Clinton filled 98 percent of her available delegate slots at the State Convention, and Sanders only filled 78 percent of his available delegate slots.

* In plain terms, the Clinton campaign organized and got nearly all of their delegates to the State Convention. The Sanders campaign did not.

Source: https://medium.com/@nvdems/the-facts-about-the-nevada-democratic-state-convention-on-saturday-106cc5db3d83#.1ocikw25z

64 people were challenged for credentials and party affiliation. 6 of them were able to overcome that and get in. Of the 58, most were Bernie supporters, but not all, so some Hillary people were left out.

But if we pretend all 58 were Bernie people to make easy math, that means 404 Bernie supporters didn't show up to fill delegate slots.

So my point is, NVDems have that information.

I think Bernie supporters on the floor were confused about the delegate difference and wanted a count because they were surprised to be so under represented. Things flashed from there.

[LonePirate]

61. Yes, but was Lange attending as a delegate for one of the candidates?

This thread is not related to the events but to Lange's alleged support of Sanders prior to those events.

[Scootaloo]

54. If only she had actually upheld the convention's rules rather than violating them.

Oh well.

[Tarc]

59. She did uphold the rules

A shame you can't come to grips with that.

[bigtree]

6. k&r

[merrily]

7. Maybe she's like about a dozen posters here who lied about being Bernie supporters.

To their credit, they were totally unbelievable at the pretense, so they are not skillful liars. However, that so many did something so bizarre does suggest some sort of coordination.

[Skwmom]

8. Well, considering she has no problem not telling the truth I don't find that endorsement believable.

[BainsBane]

16. and fully half the credentials committee were Sanders supporters nt

[All in it together]

81. Then why did Lange rule that the Bernie delegates couldn't run for State Central Committee.

They did in Iowa and 4 Bernie Delegates won in our district convention. Someone in the PTB decided they didn't want that to happen.

[BainsBane]

87. Are you seriously claiming no Sanders supporters are on the state central committee?

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And that the chair who is a Sanders supporter refused to allow nearly half of those delegates at the state convention to run for those positions? Based on what? Or are you pissed off registered Republicans aren't able to run Nevada's Democratic Party?

Politifact ruled this entire nonsense being perpetuated about the Nevada state Democratic convention to be without evidentiary basis. The results of the state convention in terms of delegate allocation mirrored the outcome on caucus night. http://www.politifact.com/nevada/statements/2016/may/18/jeff-weaver/allegations-fraud-and-misconduct-nevada-democratic/?platform=hootsuite

But if you want to know what the real problem is, it's the caucus system, which limits voter participation rates to the lowest of any other system, averaging 3.7 percent this year. That Bernie continues to complain about closed primaries while saying nothing about the far more restrictive caucus system shows that he and those who repeat his arguments care only about Bernie's political prospects and not about expanding access to the franchise.

I live in a state that has caucuses, but at least delegate allocation (in terms of presidential candidates) is fixed on caucus night, so we don't have any uncertainty as to how many delegates will move on to the national convention for each candidate. The only question is about who gets to be a delegate: Bernie supporters vote on Bernie delegates; Clinton supporters vote on Clinton delegates. Everyone votes on committee assignments.

The the absurdity of this sort of outrage over 4 delegates when he trails by hundreds shows the extent to which rationality has long been abandoned.

Then the fact that this is all within a context in which Bernie's argument for the nomination is that superdelegates should nullify the results of elections already cast in order to install him as the nominee in violation of the will of the electoral majority shows the extend to which he is willing to overturn the people's right to elect their nominee via the ballot box in order to advance himself.
The voice mails left to the NV Dem Chair lends particular insight into the nature of the self-entitlement underlying the hatred for the Democratic party, Clinton, and the majority of voters who have voted for her to be the nominee. They continue to protest because ultimately what the resent is electoral democracy itself. In insisting any election in which Bernie doesn't win is fraudulent, they show complete contempt for the rights of anyone but themselves to participate in voting for elected leaders.

[All in it together]

98. I listened to Sen. Nina Turner and Nevada Superdelegate Erin Bilbray who were at

The convention.
The Bernie delegates followed the rules and the chair would not take up their motions that were signed by 20% of the delegates by 9:30 that morning. Lange ignored her own rules and made up new ones. We would expect a democratic process at a Democratic Convention is that too much to ask? And Lange is not a Bernie supporter

[LiberalFighter]

89. How could anyone run for State Central Committee

According to Nevada's rules, officers of the State Central Committee are elected at the first quarterly meeting in each odd-numbered year. They won't have their next election of officers until 2017.

[All in it together]

99. There were supposed to be positions voted on at the convention, there are other committees.

We voted on State Central Committee members in the District Convention I went to.

[LiberalFighter]

106. As I stated Nevada rules state that election of SCC officers are elected in odd years.

You likely were in a district caucus instead of convention. I'm guessing that you elected DNC members (1 man and 1 woman) and members to either the Clark County, Washoe County, or Rural Executive Board.


Section 4. The E-Board shall have no more than twenty‐four (24) voting members consisting of the NSDP Chair, First Vice-Chair, Second Vice‐Chair, Secretary, Treasurer, National Committeeman, National Committeewoman; and, not more than fourteen (14) additional members elected at the State Convention [eight (8) from Clark County, four (4) from Washoe County, two (2) from the remaining counties]; and, the chair of the Rural Nevada Democratic Caucus, the chair of the Nevada Stonewall Democratic Caucus, the chair of the Young Democrats of Nevada, or their designees, if not already voting E‐Board members.

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. They're completely unhinged

[YouDig]

20. Uh oh. The whole conspiracy theory is falling apart. Guess they need a new one now.

[KingFlorez]

22. That certainly changes quite a bit

[Bluenorthwest]

23. Lots of people are 'on record' as being say, heterosexual because the truth does not serve

their current agenda. That does not mean they really are what they say they are. I don't believe a word Lange says because of her behavior. Sorry, but she's following 'get press' protocols and not security protocols with her rhetoric. That's always a red flag for those who are making claims like hers.

Where are her police reports? Where are the arrests for all of these terrible things she claims happened? Does Wendell Pierce have them?

[ucrdem]

27. .

[MADem]

37. You're seriously trying to make this about GAY PEOPLE? I can't believe you wrote that!!!

And you finish up by dragging in a black actor who was involved in a barroom altercation?

Bluenorthwest
23. Lots of people are 'on record' as being say, heterosexual because the truth does not serve
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their current agenda. That does not mean they really are what they say they are. I don't believe a word Lange says because of her behavior. Sorry, but she's following 'get press' protocols and not security protocols with her rhetoric. That's always a red flag for those who are making claims like hers.

Where are her police reports? Where are the arrests for all of these terrible things she claims happened? Does Wendell Pierce have them?

Why is it that whenever someone wants to make a dramatic "comparison," that the gay people, the black people and the women get shoved up on stage to be THE EXAMPLE all the time? Can't anyone make points without having to drag them into the mix and try to make them, by association, either allies or punching bags?

It's a craven thing to do. Make your points without pointing to other people.

[Bluenorthwest]

49. I cited an example of things people say that are bullshit that serves their agenda.

Your declaration that my own life is off limits to me to speak of smacks of a certain brand of status mongering, an implicit bias that is invisible to you. To you, a gay reference is 'dramatic' and it is 'shoved up on the stage'. You claim I'm 'dragging them into the mix'. Them being me, apparently, dragging myself into the mix and greatly offending straight white people in the process.

When I say 'people hide lots of truths, just look to the closet' that's just me talking. For you to claim that's high drama is you being highly biased in a clearly entitled way. Talking about gay people is not high drama, when I'm talking it's always gay. Deal with it. I don't have to butch up my verbiage for you, you are in fact the very reason such language is so useful.

This entire conversation and line of conversation is DU talking about other people. But that's only for you to do, of course.

And people most certainly do assert things about themselves that are simply not true. And the closet is in fact an excellent example of that. Feel free to use it.

[MADem]

58. No--you just rolled it out and stepped on it.

It doesn't matter if you claim to be a member of a group you are using as a faux "example." This is the internet--you could tell me you were an Aleutian Underwater Basket Weaver and I'd have no way of verifying that.

Your comments were off-the-mark. I'm not the only one who noticed. You don't get to drag entire groups up and make them an example to support your thesis without someone calling you out on it.

One of these things is NOT like the other.

[mcar]

73. Aleutian Underwater Basket Weaver!

Where do I apply?

[Number23]

91. You are a gem.

Seriously.

[MADem]

92. You are too!

[YouDig]

38. Well that's really a nice conspiracy. So she was planning this ahead of time, and decided

to falsely endorse Bernie in order to give her credibility upon throwing the convention.

Tasty!

[Bluenorthwest]

51. Where is thie proof of this alleged endorsement? I see no evidence of it offered, just

people yapping about it as if it was established fact. Show your evidence or admit you are fabricating crapola as you go along. Snark and smirk don't cut it, you dig?
Her behavior does not indicate to me that she is being honest. Nor does yours. Where's your citation? It's absent.

[RufusTFirefly]

78. I feel confident that Jon Ralston will back her up.

[mcar]

71. Ummm, what?

[pmorlan1]

31. Seriously?

How can Clinton supporters possibly believe this obvious falsehood. Use your brain, please.

[grasswire]

32. Who was the man whispering instructions in her ear?

Do tell.

[LiberalFighter]

90. Parliamentarian

Section 5. The Parliamentarian for the State Democratic Convention shall be appointed by the Chair, but must be a registered Democrat and a member in good standing of the National Association of Parliamentarians (or a similar professional organization), and may not be a member of the NSDP executive committee, state central committee or any other organization affiliated with the NSDP.

[Luminous Animal]

35. No she isn't. Jeesh. This easy to check.

Roberta Lange, state party chair (Neutral): Lange has decided to stay neutral, as many party leaders have ahead of contests in their state. A former county Democratic chair, she served as former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson’s state director during his failed bid for the presidency in 2008.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/269348-clinton-has-superdelegate-edge-in-nevada-south-carolina

There is a big fat zero mention of Sanders on her twitter feed also.

[pnwmom]

44. She was neutral at the beginning, but she ended up in the Bernie camp. nt

[Luminous Animal]

46. Yeah right. That is why her twitter feed only mentions O'Malley and Clinton.

[Scootaloo]

55. Citation?

[tonedevil]

79. When? /nt

[Fuddnik]

42. The new talking points e-mail has been released!

Third time I've seen this shit today.

[riversedge]

56. 3rd times a charm.

[Triloon]

43. If Lange were actually a Bernie supporter...

then her betrayal of that support by front loading the process to favor Clinton only further justifies the anger of the Sanders delegates. Sanders supporters are largely against an unthinking rubber stamping of a status quo proclaimed by authoritarians. We don't play follow the Leader. You haven't figured that out yet. All of your haughty pearl clutching language about it doesn't mean a thing.
In '68 the anti-war vote that supported Gene McCarthy would not switch their votes to the pro-war Humphrey after he was installed by the establishment as Nominee, having not run in a single primary. And so Nixon won. That is the outcome of the '68 Dem convention that you should be cautious about, not Daly's telegenic police riots.
The Left has been a reliable pool of voters for the Dems for decades, even though after election day we are treated with disdain and smirks, and all our positions are compromised away as the first thing that can be given up in a negotiation. This is an old dynamic used in the establishment against all minority interests. You should be familiar with it by now.
Your attempt to de-humanize and denigrate Sanders supporters into a sub human mass of violent, vicious misogynists is seen, understood, and ignored.
If Hillary doesn't want to be the Hubert Humphrey of 2016 she'll need to incorporate, for real, some of the policy that this minority feels so strongly about. She'll have to work like a slave to make it believable, but there is still time, although not much.

[pnwmom]

45. Since when does the loser get to dictate to the winner? nt

[Triloon]

62. The "winner" hasnt won anything at all until

they are seated in the presidency. And even after that, determining who the real Winners and Losers are will be a developing picture. The Ideal in a democracy is that we are all winners, we don't get any closer to that ideal by dismissing large minorities as irrelevant Losers. If Mrs. Clinton wins the dem nomination but not the white house it will be because she refused to sacrifice some of her establishment elitism in favor of genuine populism. This isn't a sports competition. It isn't about celebrating being on a winning side. People's lives are in the balance. You don't want Trump to win, right? So what are you willing to sacrifice to see to it that he doesn't? How about the TPP? how about Fracking? How about the militarization of US police? How about the NSA spying on US citizens? and all the rest of the Patriot Act. How about seeing to it that predator bankers are stripped of their ability to ruin the lives of our fellow americans? There are plenty of other items to consider. Or, Mrs. Clinton could be a stubborn Winner, and win all the way to a Trump white house. Like I said, there are things she can do but at this point she'll have to work like a slave to make it believable. You want to help her with that?

[pnwmom]

67. If that is the ideal, then why does Bernie insist that "triangulation" is evil? Compromise

is a necessary feature of a diverse democracy, and Bernie is all about how terrible it is that other politicians believe in compromise.

[Luminous Animal]

69. The definition of triangulation is not compromise.

[Beowulf]

102. When the winner wants the loser's support.

Demanding obedience because you won isn't going to work when the loser has choices. The old "we don't need to give the left anything because where else are they going to go" strategy isn't working this cycle.

[JudyM]

47. Because it doesn't matter who does it. Votes, including delegates' votes, *matter*. Nt

[pnwmom]

48. And there were more Hillary delegates than Bernie delegates, so that affected the outcome.

And do you know what some of these important demands were? The Bernie people wanted to change the rules to allow megaphones, for instance. And they were outraged that they were overruled by the majority.

[frylock]

63. Is there a link to her endorsing Sanders?

This smells like some Bernie Butter to me.

[pnwmom]

66. The Newsweek article states it. The link is in the OP. n/t

[frylock]

80. No, sorry. Is there any proof other than what is claimed in the article?

Read this and then let me know when she endorsed Sanders.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1996407

[kiva]

82. *crickets*

[mcar]

70. How bout that?

She is a volunteer too.

[hobbit709]

75. A Bernie supporting superdelegate-what are the odds.

[The_Casual_Observer]

76. Nobody but bernie can be trusted. Everyone else is a corporate shill.

[Arazi]

83. Where's a link to her own endorsement of Bernie?

In January, she was uncommitted: See this pdf put out by the DNC - https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6070545/Unpledged_as_of_1.21.16.0.pdf 


In February, she was still uncommitted: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/269348-clinton-has-superdelegate-edge-in-nevada-south-carolina 

Roberta Lange, state party chair (Neutral): Lange has decided to stay neutral, as many party leaders have ahead of contests in their state. A former county Democratic chair, she served as former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson’s state director during his failed bid for the presidency in 2008.

By April, she was still uncommitted: 

April: https://www.laprogressive.com/who-are-the-superdelegates/ 

477 Harry Reid NV Sen. Clinton 
478 Dina Titus NV Rep. Clinton 
479 Artie Blanco NV DNC None 
480 Roberta Lange NV DNC None 
481 Chris Wicker NV DNC None 
482 Erin Bilbray NV DNC Sanders 

But SUDDENLY in May she became a Sanders supporter?? 

[hobbit709]

84. Only in the minds of the Camp Weathervane people.

[Norrin Radd]

100. Bullshit article. eom

[Cheese Sandwich]

103. She's not endorsed anybody. If article says that, then article is wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016

[AtomicKitten]

104. I don't give a crap. She cheated, on video, large as life.

I believe in free and fair elections. No exceptions.