This is not a good development: Centrist Democrats: We can work with President Trump

[blackspade]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-moderate-democrats-223168#ixzz48wVGxXME

The final bit.....

Manchin, who represents a state in which Obama is very unpopular and that is poised to be a landslide for Trump, said his constituents are eager for someone that understands what’s become of manufacturing cities and coal country.

“My people are really hurting,” Manchin said. “They don’t believe this administration or Barack Obama really cares about them.”

And while Manchin is one of Clinton’s most vocal backers, she was just throttled by Sen. Bernie Sanders in the West Virginia primary. Manchin said he’s ready to deal with Trump should things go the other way — and he thinks Trump is ready to as well.

“What you see in the campaign and if he would be elected at that level, what you’re going to see is a little different,” Manchin said. “He didn’t get to where he got to by making a lot of bad deals.”

[JRLeft]

1. Centrist democrats are republicans.

[Kelvin Mace]

3. No, they are Vichy Democrats

they collaborate with the enemy.

[JRLeft]

4. Having a D next to your name doesn't make you a democrat.

[RKP5637]

7. That's exactly what it's become. I left because of it, became unaffiliated, but

I will vote democratic by the candidate, as I do not subscribe to the DNC/DLC/3rd-way/DWS, etc.

[arcane1]

17. Yep, and it damn sure doesn't make one a progressive!

[JRLeft]

19. The DNC needs to be gutted. We need to elect new leadership. It's time for new

blood aka real progressives. No matter the outcome of the election we have to take over the democratic party or start a new party.

[blackspade]

12. That's right, McGovern had the same issue....

As the current Party does; a large segment of it is all too willing to deal with a conservative wingnut as President over an actual liberal.
"Democrats for Nixon" has become "Democrats for Trump"

[JRLeft]

14. The country is much further to the left than it was then.

Most people support progressive policies. That makes the nation progressive, but our politicians are owned by the oligarchy so we never get what we want.

[BillZBubb]

29. Well, Manchin's a big Hillary supporter--ie republican.

[Ferd Berfel]

42. Correct. They share the same Corporatist view of

People, The Elite, and their places in society.

[Fawke Em]

2. Doesn't surprise me.

If Clinton wins the presidency, she'll have Republican support when she guts our Social Security by means-testing it.

[FreakinDJ]

5. Do they know some thing we don't

like Hillary is toast

[RKP5637]

6. No, not at all! I've read that too, some democrats saying they can work with a Trump

presidency, in a backhanded way admitting defeat, or feeling the nominee can not win, but more likely constituents feeling deserted by the democratic party. Today's democratic party is certainly not the old time democratic party.

I've heard similar where I live, people want Trump because they want change no matter what. The democratic party should be filling that void with a nominee, but I'm afraid that will not happen, and I do think the democratic PTB are woefully misjudging the anger in this country at the establishments.

The 2016 election is going to be incredibly close. Far too many people vote with their pocketbook, who will serve them best, and for many they don't want establishment candidates.

One serious mistake HRC is making IMO is touting Bill as her economic adviser. To me, it weakens her stance, and this will also fuel Trump about the trade deals Bill made.

My bottom line? I just want to see a democrat in the WH 2016.

[DookDook]

22. Remember when Leiberman was Al Gore's VP pick and held on to his Senate seat, just in case...

That's exactly what this makes me think of. It shows that they really think that they need to hedge their bets, not a good sign as the media is running around claiming that Secretary Clinton has it all wrapped up.

I'm terrified of a Trump presidency and this is why Bernie should be the Democratic nominee, he's the stronger candidate to run against Trump.

[RKP5637]

25. They feel omnipotent IMO, that HRC will just breeze into the WH over Trump. IMO they

are severely ignoring the electorate. Trump, is no pushover. He's very smart and used to dealing with competition. Also, the electorate is fed up with the establishments, and many are fed up with Bill's trade deals. So, in comes HRC with Bill as her economic adviser. It just makes her look so weak. She has so much baggage, and Trump will make full use of it.

A Trump presidency in 2016 will make the US a place many would want to leave, once they realized their foolishness of having voted Trump in. This 2016 election is a frightening event!

[hobbit709]

8. Centrists? Now I wonder who keeps saying they're centrist?

It's certainly not the Sanders crowd.

[Beowulf]

9. Of course they do.

How often did they work with Obama?

[Jitter65]

10. What Trump really has to worry about are all those folks who believed his harsh rhetoric and made

them promises that he is already breaking.

Why the Dems haven't put out an ad about his flip-flops is puzzling. Trump can be shown to be just another Democrat in GOP clothing. To some of his rabid supporters that won't matter. But to many who actually believed Trump
in the beginning this would be a huge move to sit out in November. Once they see him for what he really is they will light up, get a bottle of beer and sit it out.

[JRLeft]

16. Why, because the GOP can do the same thing to Hillary.

[danimich1]

13. They should have made a statement about

Working with Hillary when she's elected. However, they know how much the majority of their constituents hate the Clintons, so they won't say anything like that. And because they're democrats, they pander to a maniac, because they fear not getting reelected, proving they have no spine. THIS is why there are so many red states - how can people vote for politicians they can't respect? All the young people who support Bernie will quickly become disillusioned the more they see behavior like this, and will leave the Democratic Party.

[arcane1]

15. The big Dem donors will be perfectly happy with Trump in the White House n/t

[RKP5637]

28. They will. Often with big money it's all the same. R=D=I, whomever will bring them the best

$$$$$'s returns on their investments.

[onecaliberal]

18. That's what the establishment gets, but Bernie is not a real dem right.

We are so fucked.

[RKP5637]

31. I don't even recognize today's democratic party. Probably with his values and

integrity, he's not a real democrat these days. As you say, "We are so fucked." What I find so pathetic are the millions of people in the US that really don't get what's going on.

[onecaliberal]

32. They get it, but it doesn't affect them.

[Bobbie Jo]

20. It's Manchin

Always the outlier. Useless Dem, IMO...

Yes

[blackspade]

23. And...Heidi Heitkamp and Jon Tester

There will be more.
It seems that part of the Democratic Party elites are seeing a Trump victory ahead with Clinton at the top of the ticket.

[Hiraeth]

21. I thought the last thing Clitonites wanted was a Trump presidency. Isn't that what they have

been using to scare Berners into insisting they vote for her. ooooh. Trump presidency. Scary. Scarier than a Clinton presidency. Vote for Clinton. She is the lesser of the two evils.

so confusing.

[Octafish]

24. Triangulatin'.

[Sheepshank]

26. Not sure why you are so shocked, when many BS supporters here are supporting Trump

by loudly proclaiming they would never vote for Hillary and post after post demonizing her and extolling him, not to mention the recently hidden post promoting Trumps anti TV Hillary ads. Yeah, Trump as a vocal cheerleading event right here on DU.

[BillZBubb]

34. That is a total lie.

Many, many people here don't like Hillary and for good reasons. Some have shown trump material to show how trump will attack Hillary and show why she is such a weak candidate. trump has so much material to attack her with, she'll be on the defensive the whole campaign.

But, I defy you to find one Sanders supporter who actually supports trump? You can't because it's a lie. They support Sanders.

Manchin is a Hillary supporter and super-delegate yet he is talking about working with trump. Any Sanders delegates doing that? Didn't think so.

[Sheepshank]

37. You are trying to portray one reality, I have illustrated another, there were no lies

you can shove it, since everything I have said is a fact on this bb. Whether tacitly or happenstance, to in a mad rush to hurt Hillary, they have upheld Trump to the detriment of Hillary and the Democratic Party.

[Bluenorthwest]

39. You smear without any proof of your wild, outlandish assertions, it's gossip you introduce into

a fully cited article about an actual, elected Hillary supporting US Senator saying he can work with Trump. How many of her supporters are exactly like that?

Nothing you have said is fact. That's why you post it without any evidence.

[Sheepshank]

43. OMG...can't you just read instead of having everyone else point out shit to you?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1995779

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1992537

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511982178

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1981009

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1970306

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511996456

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511995913



every link undermining Dems and assisting Trump.

[frylock]

36. I support Coke by not purchasing Budweiser.

[Sheepshank]

38. see? you are following me around.

some are liars and other are foolish liars.

[frylock]

40. Aside from the countering of your accusations from yesterday..

I've posted in reply to you TWICE. So unless you have a sock account, I have not been following you around. But, in all sincerity, stop posting stupid crap and you won't have to deal with me in future, mkay?

[floriduck]

27. If the GE were Sanders vs Trump, Hillary would support Trump. Without a doubt.

[arcane1]

30. And so would quite a few DUers n/t

[RKP5637]

33. There's a lot of truth in that, because $$$$$'s love $$$$$'s across the entire political

spectrum. Bernie is one of the few that has values I admire. In today's US, it's all about $$$$$'s. So pathetic.

[BillZBubb]

35. I dislike Hillary, but she wouldn't actively support anyone.

She wouldn't support Sanders except with a smattering of lip service. And she wouldn't support trump, although she would tone down her anti-trump rhetoric.

[BlueStateLib]

41. Oh boy, you really don't know Hillary, if nothing else, Hillary is a team player

why do you think she has so many superdelegates