2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSerious Question: What does Bernie Want, and Why Doesn't Hillary Give it to Him?
Of course he wants to be President, but let's assume for purposes of this discussion that he realizes that isn't likely to happen.
Last night, Bernie talked about the DNC not letting his supporters "in." What exactly does he mean by this, and what is his endgame? Does he want to influence the platform? Does he want a more fundamental change to the DNC rules? Does he want to replace DWS?
More importantly, why doesn't Hillary cut a deal with him? She obviously can't afford anything sort of a full-throated endorsement from Bernie. Is Bernie asking for something that she thinks is untenable? I can't imagine that what goes into the party platform is that important to her, I don't think anyone outside of a handful of people really cares what's in the platform. I just can't see why she doesn't sit down with him and at least get to the point where things like NV don't happen again.
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)dinkytron
(568 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)G_j
(40,367 posts)this place is gone completely beyond the pale..
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)fuck that he gets nothing.....
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)and the reasonable ones will even without his endorsement, so she needs nothing from him. Sanders cannot be relied upon to aid in any way.
1939
(1,683 posts)I think Bernie wants to go to the convention and be put into nomination with a flowery speech and several seconding speeches. He then wants his followers to have a massive floor demonstration. After the nominations are done, he wants a floor vote with the delegations being polled. After Hillary wins on the first ballot, he will graciously concede and move that the decision be made unanimous (which is the way conventions used to be run).
Hillary doesn't want this. She wants a stage managed coronation with Bernie conceding before the convention and no Bernie supporters raining on her parade.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Why do you think he wants this, what does he get out of it?
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Jeesus fucking krist, what a miserable life you must have.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Of course, part of him would probably want her to admit the system is rigged but she won't admit that.
I think they will iron out their worst differences and come together on several major areas that are meaningful to each candidates followers. That's what I HOPE they will do...
Arkansas Granny
(31,519 posts)1939
(1,683 posts)To have their "moment in the sun" on a national stage.
As a reward for their fervent support
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)CanadaexPat
(496 posts)keep to his message, even after the primaries are over. He can be anti-Trump without having to join up with Clinton in any way.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)for Berni or his supporters to demand taking on their platform.
Hillary is winning, if anyone should be taking on pieces of platforms, it should be them.
They want to be begged for their vote
and if their behavior is any indication they want Dems on their knees groveling for it.
Narcissism at it's finest!
Let them cry. Let them threaten. It will just bring about the inevitable collapse much sooner and they will have Berned all their bridges ensuring their voices are ignored in the future.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)He's just gone on wild ego trip and likes to hear people screaming his name.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Maybe the rhetoric about being "treated fairly" is just about ginning up energy to keep the campaign going
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)findrskeep
(713 posts)Bernie wants to set us free. Hillary will keep us owned by the corporations and big business. He doesn't want it for himself. He wants it for all of us.
marlakay
(11,476 posts)If there is anger from his supporters it is rightfully so by being shut out from having a chance.
All of my life the head of DNC never picked a candidate in this way until primaries over unless only one was left.
And the news is making the whole election a mockery.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Votes be damned, he wants Clinton to get out of the race so that he can be given the nomination.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Just more whining from the Hillary crowd pissed off that Bernie fucked up what was supposed to be nothing more than a victory lap.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)It's Sanders demanding a coronation, not Clinton. Like I said, votes be damned.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)But after his actions and words yesterday, I want him to be destroyed and made a persona non grata
Jude the Obscure
(50 posts)Its Clinton that should be persona non grata