If Bernie is such a strong candidate

[boston bean]

why has he lost the Democratic Primary race for the nomination?

Why do people think the system and votes cast ought to be thwarted for a loser? A sore one at that?

He lost, I wish he would get over himself, really.

[thomservo]

1. If he's lost why can't you get over him? n/t

[DURHAM D]

2. 'cause he won't get off the stage

Reminds me of an old boy friend I dumped and it took years for him to finally go away.

[uponit7771]

7. cause he's doing more bad than good

[dchill]

12. To whom?

[thomservo]

16. The corporatists.

[puffy socks]

18. Progressives

[uponit7771]

48. progress

[Bluenorthwest]

45. More bad than good:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=216668&sub=trans

and to be fair, the OP who sets the pace:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=173223&sub=trans

[dchill]

47. K&R.

[uponit7771]

49. its a badge of honor

[Shadowflash]

21. +1000

nt

[hobbit709]

3. If Hillary is such a shoo in, why can't she clinch it?

[boston bean]

5. She has. Only in the minds of the most delusional has she not.

[hobbit709]

8. Not yet.

[boston bean]

9. uh, yeah she has. nt

[puffy socks]

22. Math apparently

escapes them. Numbers and all that.

Or maybe they really think death threats and threatening to cut out peoples tongues and yelling "fuck you bitch!" at party leaders and super delegates at the convention is the way to get them to flip over to Berni's camp?

[George II]

17. Nobody said she was a shoo in. And objective people recognize that she has "clinched" it.

[uponit7771]

4. Hillary Clinton changed the rules!!! (cause the podium bird told em that)

[puffy socks]

29. Many Bernie supporters are

too arrogant to learn and follow the rules, and too drunk to remember them.

[uponit7771]

50. lol

[beaglelover]

10. He's a big loser. A sore loser. He needs to drop out now and fully support the D nominee for POTUS

If Hillary loses in November, we'll look back to this time period in the election, and know where the blame falls. Get out Bernie. NOW! Loser.

[dchill]

14. Ha!

Haha.

[thomservo]

26. If Hillary loses It will be her own fault.

[boston bean]

31. Good to know. Now can you begin to support her?

[thomservo]

38. I will vote for the Democratic nominee in November...

...Sanders or Clinton.

[boston bean]

52. You will be voting for clinton. She is the winner of the primaries.

[puffy socks]

11. Every election besides those he won

were rigged!
And polls! Look at the polls !
no don't look at the polls! ..no wait the polls, they show Bernie as the stronger candidate, look at them!

The crowds at rallies prove Bernie was
destoyed by the establishment!

The south doesnt count!

[boston bean]

13. And all those self select online clickety click polls show him winning!

[George II]

19. But he's going to flip superdelegates! Oh wait, he didn't say how - one in the Virgin Islands......

....yesterday flipped from him to Clinton.

A microcosm of the state of this campaign - he's reached the point of alienating his supporters.

[boston bean]

24. His behavior yesterday and his statement re-enforced in my mind

the need for him to GTFO of this race.

He is doing real harm, and he needs to reign his ego in.

[Skwmom]

15. Since we are still waiting on the Iowa audit and NO ONE has verified the vote count, I would not

concede the point that Clinton won.

[Harmony Blue]

20. Hillary has the entire DLC

and establishment backing her, along with her husband and she can't seal the deal against Sanders.

If she survives the fight against Bernie she will struggle against and even stronger candidate in Trump in the general election. Hillary Clinton is weak on foreign policy which is also Trumps weakness. Only advantage Hillary Clinton has she can say she has been an DC bubble insider for a long time.

[leftynyc]

43. She's already the candidate

It's Bernie and his supporters that wont accept that reality. He can't catch up. You KNOW he can't win CA with 80% of the vote and yet you wont face reality and instead put the onus on Secy Clinton. It's why Bernie is pissing off more people every single day.

[mcar]

23. K&R

[Snarkoleptic]

25. If Hillary is such a strong candidate,

why do her minions (Ralston, et al) feel the need to make up chair throwing stories?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bernie4People/status/732619789424832512/video/1

[boston bean]

28. Hillary is a strong candidate, she won the nomination. Bernie lost. Deal.

[NCTraveler]

27. I don't think either candidate is all that strong.

Clinton is a leader and has built an extremely strong coalition contributing to her solid campaign.

I think it would be interesting to replace Kucinich with Sanders this year. The dynamics are different this year from past years he ran. I think he would have done as well if not better than Sanders.

[CrowCityDem]

30. Is there any state where he's admitted defeat? I haven't heard one bit of class from him in a loss.

[Shadowflash]

32. Unless I fell asleep and missed it

Neither candidate has reached the required number of pledged delegates to reach the nomination.

Until that happens, no one has 'won' or lost.

The process is really a simple one. If one candidate reaches the required number of delegates, they become the party's nominee. If neither party reaches that number, then it goes to the convention. That's how it works.

For a bunch of people who scream about other people not seeing the obvious, they seem not to be able to understand this simple concept.

It's NOT over yet.

[boston bean]

33. It is over, no matter how much you tell yourself it isn't.

[Shadowflash]

36. Sure

Who got the required number of delegates?

I must have missed it.

[Bluenorthwest]

34. If Hillary had won already, she'd be touting her brass ring strongly and in public, she is not.

What she's actually doing is losing Oregon a second time, this time with even fewer votes than she got in 2008. She lost support here over the last 8 years and that's always the mark of a candidate on the rise, dwindling support and repeated losses.

Of course Hillary did not even bother to show up in Oregon, not once since the 08 Primary when she and her family were here constantly. She is openly opposed to legislation the people here created and which works very well indeed. She loves Ronald Reagan, she pushes revisionist history of AIDS. That stuff appeals to a certain crowd but that crowd is in short supply here.

[boston bean]

35. Hillary knows she has won. She's just got too much class to rub it in the face of the delusional.

[Bluenorthwest]

39. A specious claim, considering you have been claiming she's already won since Iowa.

Any candidate who has won will happily and freely say so. Hillary has shown us she can speak freely, she was eager to share her AIDS revisionism and outlandish adoration she has for Ronald Reagan. Hard to believe 'class' has anything to do with such a person. She mocked the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans, shat on their memories and did this all with made up, improvised lies. How is that 'classy'? It's not. It's ignorant right wing bullshit.

So a person who has the stones to push that level of propaganda would have no problem accepting any prize they'd won. That's obvious. That level of shamelessness has no bottom.

[Shadowflash]

41. Hey now!

That's not all HRC's fault.

I imagine it's a result of PTSD from dodging all that sniper fire in Bosnia.

I'm sure that was a scarring moment.

[Bluenorthwest]

46. The OP is trying to pick a fight for Philly, the objective is bad blood and incitement.

It's an endless drone of a message out of the OP, for months and months. It's aggressive, goading, taunting bullshit. Very much the arsenal favored by the Reagan Democrat crowd.

[Bluenorthwest]

40. A Retrospective: boston bean calls the election over

April 19
Has reality sunk in for Bernie supporters?
It's over. It's been over.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511784343
April 20
Time for Bernie to drop out.
Really folks, we don't need anymore smearing of our nominee by one of our alleged own.

Get out Bernie.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511788411

May 3
Bernie needs to drop out.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511893560


Months of this. Months.

[thomservo]

42. She's smarter than many of her supporters in that regard...

She knows she'll need some of those "delusional" Sanders supporters should she make it to the general.

[baldguy]

37. Berniestas are all for democracy, until people start voting against him.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

44. The process is a fucking joke. Bernie is blowing it up because it is so poorly designed, it's easy

to do. The fact that you and the rest of you people are fretting over (1) Bernie should drop out, (2) this is hurting Hillary, (3) Hillary is fight two fronts, (4) this is really expensive for Hillary, (5) Hillary should be focused on the GE is



Stop with the crying over an idiotic process and change it!

[immoderate]

51. Bernie is against the establishment, which is corrupt, and apparently includes you.

All the forces of the status quo are aligned against him. A yet he rises.

--imm

[Jamaal510]

53. Not only that,

but he's losing despite his rival encountering more intense scrutiny from the press and from the GOP for many more years than he has.

[AgingAmerican]

54. If Hillary is such a strong candidate

Why does she and the DNC feel a need to commit election fraud then lie about it afterwards?

Doesn't seem like the actions of a strong candidate, does it?