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slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:54 AM May 2016

Do not let the mainstrean/corporatists decide the election, it was so evident back in 2007...

with Obama and is even more so today.

Jeff Zeleny after Wisconsin and his "breaking news" that the Clinton campaign was to disqualify Sanders was the turning point IMO. Nevada and those hateful Sanders supporters is the next step as media plays along.

There is nothing to do but acknowledge what is happening and whether you go along or not?









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Do not let the mainstrean/corporatists decide the election, it was so evident back in 2007... (Original Post) slipslidingaway May 2016 OP
This is the year for a candidate who is new/Progressive/Populist. Any of the remaining three highprincipleswork May 2016 #1
Before the election got into high gear ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #4
I have no doubt who is the fool. The Democratic Establishment is playing hide your head in the sand highprincipleswork May 2016 #6
The Establishment seems to have forgotten the internet ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #8
Trump? Arneoker May 2016 #13
Trump is a disaster, and who knows what he will say or do to try to get elected or keep Republicans highprincipleswork May 2016 #19
It was.. "Defeat, Disqualify, Unify Later." Joob May 2016 #2
Van Jones called out the panel tonite on CNN and he called out DWS as well. jillan May 2016 #3
Must agree, Van Jones is a thinking person compared to the robots that permeate the ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #7
I'd love to see that one. Off to search... nt silvershadow May 2016 #9
Here ya go - jillan May 2016 #10
Oh thank you! So glad you were up at this hour! silvershadow May 2016 #11
Lol - I'm not! I have to get up in 4 hrs. jillan May 2016 #12
Ha ha! Well it is for a good cause- our very democracy! silvershadow May 2016 #14
Of course that discussion that turned bad in Atlanta Arneoker May 2016 #15
And none of the others Demsrule86 May 2016 #18
You got that right! Here is the video ... slipslidingaway May 2016 #5
Interesting world you all live in Arneoker May 2016 #16
It is over now...Hillary needs less than 100 delegates. Demsrule86 May 2016 #17
 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
1. This is the year for a candidate who is new/Progressive/Populist. Any of the remaining three
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:58 AM
May 2016

contenders can be that person, even Trump.

I believe that person will win.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
4. Before the election got into high gear ...
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:22 AM
May 2016

it was anyone but Bush/Clinton.

Interesting how the Repubs were quick to gauge the support, or lack thereof, of a Bush/Clinton ticket, and then let an outsider (Trump) take hold.

But our party has been clinging to 30 year old policies and expecting everyone to go along.

We should be asking who is the fool?









 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
6. I have no doubt who is the fool. The Democratic Establishment is playing hide your head in the sand
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:52 AM
May 2016

politics.

They are misjudging the mood of the country, the electorate, their ability to have Bernie supporters "simply go along", the relative success of their "moderate, some would say regressive" policies since late Bill Clinton.

They will succeed in blowing this is they do not get with the program and run a Progressive campaign, taking into account that the Reagan Revolution is over and people are eager for a clear and opposite substitute.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
8. The Establishment seems to have forgotten the internet ...
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:14 AM
May 2016

so we have the younger generation researching and being aware and the older generation already aware and they are discussing issues.


Why is the generation of 30 and 40 year olds not on board?

Maybe they have not YET shelled out hundreds of thousands of dollars for college or they have not felt the crushing medical debt that can hit anyone of us at an time.

But what we need to understand is that in order to sustain a strong nation the majority of people must be doing OK with some hope of upward mobility, without that, all aspirations for a better future are lost.

It is that middle core/class which needs to be sustained for a future, not sure the Establishment gets it.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
19. Trump is a disaster, and who knows what he will say or do to try to get elected or keep Republicans
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:44 AM
May 2016

behind him. But yes, he has put forth some ideas that can be considered Progressive, Populist, or both. Anti-trade bills, protection of the American worker, etc.

In the worst case scenario where Hillary and the PTB continue to flog long-stale ideas of curbing their Liberal message and abandoning their more Liberal base in favor of courting what used to be Reagan Republicans, Trump could in some instances, these and even in foreign affairs, appear to be more Liberal than Hillary. He would not be the only Republican winning or doing well by advocating something Liberal, while so many of his policies are absolutely regressive.

Joob

(1,065 posts)
2. It was.. "Defeat, Disqualify, Unify Later."
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:59 AM
May 2016

They messed that up. They're trying to disqualify US, his supporters. Not him.
They're trying to defeat us now, not Bernie.
And I think they got the "Unify Later mixed up and they're unifying with Republicans.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
3. Van Jones called out the panel tonite on CNN and he called out DWS as well.
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:12 AM
May 2016

They keep piling on Bernie supporters and then think we are supposed to just forget it and support her.

It's insane. They keep pushing us away. The non-stop lies about NV & why the Bernie supporters were upset & without one mention of the Hillary fan that was arrested for assault really crossed the line tonite.

TG for Van Jones for possibly being the only talking head on a cable news show with a brain.

Someone on twitter posted that Maddow had a cartoon of a duck throwing a chair to describe Bernie supporters.

I've had it.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
7. Must agree, Van Jones is a thinking person compared to the robots that permeate the ...
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:54 AM
May 2016

corporate news channels.

Need to go back and remember why Obama let him go.


jillan

(39,451 posts)
12. Lol - I'm not! I have to get up in 4 hrs.
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:14 AM
May 2016


I seem to be glued to my computer tonite and can't break away

Arneoker

(375 posts)
15. Of course that discussion that turned bad in Atlanta
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:23 AM
May 2016

Was a major political event, so the political newsworthiness was totally comparable with Nevada.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
5. You got that right! Here is the video ...
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:42 AM
May 2016

I agree WE ARE being defeated and expected to just go along once again, but we have been doing that for decades and unifying with Republicans


... well it is a big club.








Arneoker

(375 posts)
16. Interesting world you all live in
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:26 AM
May 2016

If you think that those who get less votes should dictate terms.

I do think that Hillary should seriously appeal to Bernie supporters (the majority who I trust are rational and who have the right perspective on what are the important issues, that is) and progressives in general. But she will get to make the key decisions.

Demsrule86

(68,593 posts)
17. It is over now...Hillary needs less than 100 delegates.
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:28 AM
May 2016

Bernie is behaving almost as badly as some of his supporters.

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