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How embarrassing for Bernie (Original Post) NuclearDem May 2016 OP
heh Bobbie Jo May 2016 #1
Yuk, yuk. Because he isn't a chicken. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #2
He took it for granted, only spent 3 times than Hillary there itsrobert May 2016 #3
How frugal! No trips to Europe this week? Maru Kitteh May 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #18
LOL Scurrilous May 2016 #4
shorter... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #5
That's why we had eight-term President Ron Paul! NuclearDem May 2016 #8
shorter... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #10
He is overcome GulfCoast66 May 2016 #32
MSM looking forward to the 10 course meal... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #40
Word salad GulfCoast66 May 2016 #41
nom nom nom... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #42
The candidate GulfCoast66 May 2016 #43
rules... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #44
Just like Obama couldn't put away Clinton in 2008 ... it didn't cause Obama any problems SFnomad May 2016 #11
Ta DA! Maru Kitteh May 2016 #13
shorter... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #16
more reality based ... SFnomad May 2016 #20
Reality... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #22
This is NO DIFFERENT than 2008 ... neither Clinton nor Obama could win the nomination without SFnomad May 2016 #28
If Bernie supporters are "never to be heard from again" lapfog_1 May 2016 #30
Sanders supporters will be backing Secretary Clinton ... BS cheerleaders want to #BernTheHouseDown SFnomad May 2016 #31
Again this is not a repeat of the past lapfog_1 May 2016 #35
And when Secretary Clinton is going through the inauguration in Jan 2017 SFnomad May 2016 #37
Colonel Sanders Dem2 May 2016 #6
It's better than Saint Bernard, yes? Maru Kitteh May 2016 #14
or Bernie Madoff Dem2 May 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author 840high May 2016 #7
Knock knock, hello, Colonel Sanders and Kentucky Fried Chicken reference. NuclearDem May 2016 #9
Hillary was the real loser tonight. nt NWCorona May 2016 #17
Only if you use #BernieMath n/t SFnomad May 2016 #21
Actually math isn't needed NWCorona May 2016 #24
She won Kentucky in 2008 because a lot of Kentucky voters are racist and voted for her over Obama Zynx May 2016 #33
You are preaching to the choir on that but Bernie is still a NWCorona May 2016 #34
He got a combination of that protest vote and his actual core support. Zynx May 2016 #36
Kentucky happens to be one of the state's I haven't been to but NWCorona May 2016 #38
I think the OP was an attempt at good natured humor CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #23
True and point taken NWCorona May 2016 #25
I missed the humor. 840high May 2016 #27
I'm sure he's mortified hollowdweller May 2016 #19
And how embarrassing for Sec Clinton tazkcmo May 2016 #26
Good thing for me... MrWendel May 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #39

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
12. How frugal! No trips to Europe this week?
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:59 PM
May 2016

Are there no other messengers of deities on Earth available he could stalk?

Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
10. shorter...
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:57 PM
May 2016

meep... front runner can't overcome old man in remaining contests, didn't they get the memo?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
32. He is overcome
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:00 AM
May 2016

You just refuse to see the math. But I get it. Most Americans hate math. It's so much work.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
40. MSM looking forward to the 10 course meal...
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:25 AM
May 2016

If Bernie is 'overcome' and 'refuses to see the math' then why aren't the remaining voters in the primary heeding that 'math'?

Appears the 'equation' of reaching 2383 by either candidate by convention is not achievable with the current trend of proportional outcomes of these contests... MATH... so I get that 'it's so much work' to figure that and accept that is tough for so many HRC supporters...

I see the MATH, I get the situation by I also understand the reality and the optics going into and through the convention...

I'll let MSM feast on those optics and let the narrative write itself.... nom nom nom.... yum!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
41. Word salad
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:40 AM
May 2016

If Bernie can get the majority of the pledged delegates he will get the supers.

Thinking people can see what that would take and that it is not happening.

So hold out your hope. You can be disappointed now or dissapointed later. Makes no difference to me.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
42. nom nom nom...
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:56 AM
May 2016

how 'hungry' will MSM be when national convention rolls around? Hmmm.....

how long will MSM media chew on the SD issue that will be front and center at the convention since neither candidate will have reached the 2383 total required by the rules...

Ahh the rules... the SDs.... the establishment will be scrambling to contain / control the narrative... should be interesting to see who wins that battle...

'Makes no difference to me' since either way it will be good to get exposure on the process and reasoning of SDs and why they pledged before a single vote was cast in any primary

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
43. The candidate
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:11 AM
May 2016

With the most actual votes will win.

Throw a fit, cry and scream, threaten good democrats...

Will not matter at all.



 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
44. rules...
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:27 AM
May 2016

where in the rules does it state that?

What you're presenting is precedent angle not a rule

so 'Throw a fit, cry and scream, threaten good democrats' but you have no rule that you can point to that validates your perception now do you.....

so it 'will not matter at all' what you believe since there's no rule you can use to force your 'belief' during convention, the SDs will become the FOCAL point and under intense scrutiny so it WILL matter to them how they are perceived, OPTICS will be the biggest player at convention

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
11. Just like Obama couldn't put away Clinton in 2008 ... it didn't cause Obama any problems
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:58 PM
May 2016

in the general election

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
16. shorter...
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:03 AM
May 2016

HRC supporters believe '16 primary is reminiscent and comparable to '08

Ya got that feelin' it's similar eh? run with that as we roll into convention and see where ya land in the end when the dust settles

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
20. more reality based ...
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:06 AM
May 2016

After the first ballot, Secretary Clinton will move on to the General Election ... BS will go back to Vermont to be a Senator and change his affiliation back to Independent ... and the BS cheerleaders will go crawl back under their rocks, never to be heard from again.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
22. Reality...
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:09 AM
May 2016

the reality of the fact neither candidate will be able to earn the nomination without SDs push either one of them over the line will be on FULL display at convention and under the spectacular mass media spotlight for a ratings bonanza... nom nom nom nom... can you taste those optics? I can.... yum

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
28. This is NO DIFFERENT than 2008 ... neither Clinton nor Obama could win the nomination without
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:17 AM
May 2016

Superdelegates. In fact, it was MUCH closer in 2008 than it is in 2016 and there wasn't any issues at all.

Now, unless BS cheerleaders have a temper tantrum on the floor, put out more death threats, calling the people running things c*nts or throw chairs. At which point, we should give them all time outs and put them in the corner.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
30. If Bernie supporters are "never to be heard from again"
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:51 AM
May 2016

then Hillary loses the general.

So you better hope that they are donating and GOTV operations for Hillary come the fall... or at least voting for her.

Pissing them off right now is not a good way to start.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
31. Sanders supporters will be backing Secretary Clinton ... BS cheerleaders want to #BernTheHouseDown
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:55 AM
May 2016

There is a difference ... and those BS cheerleaders (or #BorB'ers) are a very small minority ... just like the PUMAs were back 2008.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
35. Again this is not a repeat of the past
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:09 AM
May 2016

Clintonistas (to be on the same condescending tone as your posts about BS cheerleaders) are famous for posting here that most of the Sanders supporters are "not democrats at all!" but independents... hence why Hillary does better in closed primaries...

So you can't and I mean cannot depend on them voting Democratic come November. They are (again, as Hillary people have pointed out over and over) more young people than older people... more college kids than established adults (although I take issue with this... but this is the narrative from Hillary people)... they may NOT decide to support or vote for Hillary come this fall... especially if they feel that Bernie Sanders was treated unfairly by the DNC, various state Democratic parties, and by establishment Democrats (like Senator Feinstein and others) and the media.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
37. And when Secretary Clinton is going through the inauguration in Jan 2017
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:12 AM
May 2016

The BS cheerleaders will realize they were just as immaterial as the PUMAs were in 2008. And yes, this is a repeat of the past ... exact same song and dance. The PUMAs said Obama couldn't win, he was a weak candidate, he was going to bring out the racists of the GOP in droves ... blah blah blah.

Response to NuclearDem (Original post)

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
9. Knock knock, hello, Colonel Sanders and Kentucky Fried Chicken reference.
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:57 PM
May 2016

Sense, you are currently making none.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
24. Actually math isn't needed
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:11 AM
May 2016

Tonight was hers to lose and she did. Kentucky was a closed primary that she crushed in 2008. The fact that Hillary went all in and still didn't win by one percentage point. This severely weakens her momentum in California where it's semi closed.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
33. She won Kentucky in 2008 because a lot of Kentucky voters are racist and voted for her over Obama
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:03 AM
May 2016

for that reason.

Obama only got 58% in 2012 completely unopposed because of this factor.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
34. You are preaching to the choir on that but Bernie is still a
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:07 AM
May 2016

Northerner who happens to jewish and a democratic "socialist".

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
36. He got a combination of that protest vote and his actual core support.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:11 AM
May 2016

That's pretty potent in Kentucky.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
38. Kentucky happens to be one of the state's I haven't been to but
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:16 AM
May 2016

I'm sure that protest voter went back and forth between the two. People are gonna find a reason to hate.

I'm pretty sure the point you brought up is the reason Hillary worked extra hard in Kentucky and it paid off!

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
23. I think the OP was an attempt at good natured humor
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:09 AM
May 2016

Maybe not the funniest joke ever, but it was an attempt at levity.

it's okay to "dial it down" once in awhile. No need to be at an 11 at all times.

Response to NuclearDem (Original post)

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