2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow embarrassing for Bernie
An old, white-haired man named Sanders can't win in Kentucky.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Thanks for the attempted knee-slapper, though.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)n/t
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)Are there no other messengers of deities on Earth available he could stalk?
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Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)HRC can't put away old man with big ideas and big crowds in remaining contests...
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)meep... front runner can't overcome old man in remaining contests, didn't they get the memo?
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)You just refuse to see the math. But I get it. Most Americans hate math. It's so much work.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)If Bernie is 'overcome' and 'refuses to see the math' then why aren't the remaining voters in the primary heeding that 'math'?
Appears the 'equation' of reaching 2383 by either candidate by convention is not achievable with the current trend of proportional outcomes of these contests... MATH... so I get that 'it's so much work' to figure that and accept that is tough for so many HRC supporters...
I see the MATH, I get the situation by I also understand the reality and the optics going into and through the convention...
I'll let MSM feast on those optics and let the narrative write itself.... nom nom nom.... yum!
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)If Bernie can get the majority of the pledged delegates he will get the supers.
Thinking people can see what that would take and that it is not happening.
So hold out your hope. You can be disappointed now or dissapointed later. Makes no difference to me.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)how 'hungry' will MSM be when national convention rolls around? Hmmm.....
how long will MSM media chew on the SD issue that will be front and center at the convention since neither candidate will have reached the 2383 total required by the rules...
Ahh the rules... the SDs.... the establishment will be scrambling to contain / control the narrative... should be interesting to see who wins that battle...
'Makes no difference to me' since either way it will be good to get exposure on the process and reasoning of SDs and why they pledged before a single vote was cast in any primary
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)With the most actual votes will win.
Throw a fit, cry and scream, threaten good democrats...
Will not matter at all.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)where in the rules does it state that?
What you're presenting is precedent angle not a rule
so 'Throw a fit, cry and scream, threaten good democrats' but you have no rule that you can point to that validates your perception now do you.....
so it 'will not matter at all' what you believe since there's no rule you can use to force your 'belief' during convention, the SDs will become the FOCAL point and under intense scrutiny so it WILL matter to them how they are perceived, OPTICS will be the biggest player at convention
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)in the general election
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)HRC supporters believe '16 primary is reminiscent and comparable to '08
Ya got that feelin' it's similar eh? run with that as we roll into convention and see where ya land in the end when the dust settles
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)After the first ballot, Secretary Clinton will move on to the General Election ... BS will go back to Vermont to be a Senator and change his affiliation back to Independent ... and the BS cheerleaders will go crawl back under their rocks, never to be heard from again.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)the reality of the fact neither candidate will be able to earn the nomination without SDs push either one of them over the line will be on FULL display at convention and under the spectacular mass media spotlight for a ratings bonanza... nom nom nom nom... can you taste those optics? I can.... yum
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Superdelegates. In fact, it was MUCH closer in 2008 than it is in 2016 and there wasn't any issues at all.
Now, unless BS cheerleaders have a temper tantrum on the floor, put out more death threats, calling the people running things c*nts or throw chairs. At which point, we should give them all time outs and put them in the corner.
lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)then Hillary loses the general.
So you better hope that they are donating and GOTV operations for Hillary come the fall... or at least voting for her.
Pissing them off right now is not a good way to start.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)There is a difference ... and those BS cheerleaders (or #BorB'ers) are a very small minority ... just like the PUMAs were back 2008.
lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)Clintonistas (to be on the same condescending tone as your posts about BS cheerleaders) are famous for posting here that most of the Sanders supporters are "not democrats at all!" but independents... hence why Hillary does better in closed primaries...
So you can't and I mean cannot depend on them voting Democratic come November. They are (again, as Hillary people have pointed out over and over) more young people than older people... more college kids than established adults (although I take issue with this... but this is the narrative from Hillary people)... they may NOT decide to support or vote for Hillary come this fall... especially if they feel that Bernie Sanders was treated unfairly by the DNC, various state Democratic parties, and by establishment Democrats (like Senator Feinstein and others) and the media.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)The BS cheerleaders will realize they were just as immaterial as the PUMAs were in 2008. And yes, this is a repeat of the past ... exact same song and dance. The PUMAs said Obama couldn't win, he was a weak candidate, he was going to bring out the racists of the GOP in droves ... blah blah blah.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)Dem2
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NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Sense, you are currently making none.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Tonight was hers to lose and she did. Kentucky was a closed primary that she crushed in 2008. The fact that Hillary went all in and still didn't win by one percentage point. This severely weakens her momentum in California where it's semi closed.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)for that reason.
Obama only got 58% in 2012 completely unopposed because of this factor.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Northerner who happens to jewish and a democratic "socialist".
Zynx
(21,328 posts)That's pretty potent in Kentucky.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I'm sure that protest voter went back and forth between the two. People are gonna find a reason to hate.
I'm pretty sure the point you brought up is the reason Hillary worked extra hard in Kentucky and it paid off!
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)Maybe not the funniest joke ever, but it was an attempt at levity.
it's okay to "dial it down" once in awhile. No need to be at an 11 at all times.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)After she loses to Trump.
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)I finished my drink 5 mins before opening this post.
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