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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 04:45 PM Nov 2012

I Haven't Felt This Calm & Confident Since Bubba Cleaned Dole's Clock in 1996

President Obama will be re-elected. No doubt about it. Five days out from the election and I have that same feeling of an inevitable Democratic win as I did back in 1996 when there was no question that Clinton/Gore were going to trounce Dole/Kemp. And trounce them they did, winning 379 EVs in the process.

Now, I don't see President Obama winning 379 EVs. I see him winning 300-330 EVs. But I still feel a blow-out coming.

I've been voting D since 1972, and there have been very few elections where I wasn't biting my nails right down to the wire. 1996 was one of those few years where my nails remained perfectly manicured.

There have also been elections where I refused to believe the polls and thought my candidate had a chance. Mondale & Dukakis fit into that category.

This time, I'm not biting my nails and I'm not questioning the polls.

We're winning. The clock has run out on Rmoney. The public HAS made their decision, and it's for President Obama.

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I Haven't Felt This Calm & Confident Since Bubba Cleaned Dole's Clock in 1996 (Original Post) stopbush Nov 2012 OP
Well, I sure hope your feelings are right frazzled Nov 2012 #1
I worry about Florida. They are so f*cked up with registrations, machines, and shenanigans... mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #2
I'm glad we have a realistic path without FL. reflection Nov 2012 #13
Me. too. buckyblue Nov 2012 #7
I agree. I have no doubt that Obama will have a sufrommich Nov 2012 #3
After the first debate, i felt anxious about the pres.......after the second one..when he showed he Gin Nov 2012 #4
I am not THAT confident but I am cautiously optimistic. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #5
Me too. . . BigDemVoter Nov 2012 #6
I Knew The Duke And Mondale Had No Chance. Ditto For Carter (80) DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #8
Bingo. Maximumnegro Nov 2012 #14
Yeah. I Never Bought The "Reagan Snatched Victory From The Jaws Of Defeat" Myth DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #17
Landslide so large that republickcons' planned election fraud will be inadequate SubgeniusHasSlack Nov 2012 #9
I'm getting optimistic flamingdem Nov 2012 #10
sorry, had that feeling in 2004, especially during the day on election day. yodermon Nov 2012 #11
That's Because Raw Exit Polls Were Released DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #15
yeah but the math was against kerry Maximumnegro Nov 2012 #16
Can I have some of that? I need it because my nerves are SHOT! SHOT, I say! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2012 #12
even the much venerated Nate Silver gives Romney a greater than one in five chance - that is still a Douglas Carpenter Nov 2012 #18

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. Well, I sure hope your feelings are right
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 04:50 PM
Nov 2012

Cause I'm a nervous wreck. I lurch between the kind of confidence you describe and cold-sweat fear of a nightmare scenario that's as bad as 2000. I don't know if I can take it if that happens again.

mnhtnbb

(31,388 posts)
2. I worry about Florida. They are so f*cked up with registrations, machines, and shenanigans...
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 04:57 PM
Nov 2012

but I see Obama getting to 270 without Florida.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
13. I'm glad we have a realistic path without FL.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 06:18 PM
Nov 2012

It's kept me from worrying about it. If we absolutely had to have it, I'd be a mess for the reasons you describe.

 

buckyblue

(24 posts)
7. Me. too.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 05:10 PM
Nov 2012

I daren't express it here, as I will get the "your concern is duly noted, just joined troll" type responses.

But me too. I feel deep down that our electorate is highly polarized, and it is just a handful of undecideds who will choose our

President.


And the victory for either side will be razor thin. I have had a headache for two days, and will have one until I know who won.

Days from now.

Gin

(7,212 posts)
4. After the first debate, i felt anxious about the pres.......after the second one..when he showed he
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 05:06 PM
Nov 2012

Was back and fighting.....i felt an odd sense of calm.....still feel that way...

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
5. I am not THAT confident but I am cautiously optimistic.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 05:07 PM
Nov 2012

2000 and 2004 sort of ruined it for me as far as being real confident of anything anymore. At one point on election night in both 2000 and 2004 I really thought we had it won. Dang. Dang. Dang.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
6. Me too. . .
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 05:07 PM
Nov 2012

I feel calm & confident, and I have voted in PLENTY of LOSING elections, but that will NOT happen this time. Romney is going down the toilet!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. I Knew The Duke And Mondale Had No Chance. Ditto For Carter (80)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 05:14 PM
Nov 2012

Most elections aren't that hard to pick if you rely on math and not your heart.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
17. Yeah. I Never Bought The "Reagan Snatched Victory From The Jaws Of Defeat" Myth
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 06:22 PM
Nov 2012

A myth that is largely a product of Gallup's flawed polling that year.

 

SubgeniusHasSlack

(276 posts)
9. Landslide so large that republickcons' planned election fraud will be inadequate
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 05:15 PM
Nov 2012

to steal the election from The People.

This will be a stinging repudiation of the radical teabagiban and will implode the republickcon party with only a small remnant of moderate, bipartisans that will survive their party's romnocalypse.

FORWARD!

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
16. yeah but the math was against kerry
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 06:22 PM
Nov 2012

handwringers refuse to look at the math and the campaign as a whole everything is a battered wife syndrome of flinching and thinking every day is 2000 and 2004. It's the same kind of denial that drives the wingnuts in the opposite direction.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
18. even the much venerated Nate Silver gives Romney a greater than one in five chance - that is still a
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 06:31 PM
Nov 2012

good chance. Even the much venerated Nate Silver is calculating that Romney will get at least 237 electoral votes and 48.6% of the popular vote - that is still well within striking distance.

I think Obama will most probably win too. But in 1996 there was no plausible path to victory for Robert Dole - he was not within striking distance. Although the data unquestionably favors Obama at this time - there remains nonetheless a plausible route to victory for Romney and he certainly does remain in striking distance - even if the data at this time clearly favors Obama.

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