Very good results for Bernie tonight!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

Clinton should have won handily in Kentucky after her landslide in 2008 and she even pumped a lot of money into Kentucky this time.

It was a CLOSED primary so she should have done much better.

Bernie still has the momentum with the even steven result in Kentucky and the better result in Oregon.

Even Wolfy Blitzer looked mystified tonight...

[MFM008]

1. a win is a win is a win

I wish the Seahawks could have have won by 1 point.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

6. by a whisker

[Manifestor_of_Light]

73. One-half of one percent.

[workinclasszero]

37. She did...a long time ago

You guys are just horrible at math

[passiveporcupine]

42. Oh goodie, another yellow button I get to put on ignore.

buh buy!

[QC]

52. Honestly, is there a single Hillary superfan here

without a visible transparency page? Or with a donor star?

[Demsrule86]

63. There sure is

And as for the transparency page...I guess rigged juries and phoney alerts took their toll.

[senz]

56. Great idea, I think I'll put it on ignore, too.

Life is too short for that stuff.

[passiveporcupine]

57. I've been putting every yellow button on ignore

my list is almost 50 members now, and only a few (maybe 4?) of them are Bernie supporters. I put everyone on ignore if I see they have a yellow button.

It's amazing how much nicer it is not having to read those posts.

[beaglelover]

71. They really do suck at math, don't they.

[workinclasszero]

72. Big time!

[Fantastic Anarchist]

74. I don't understand that with your username ...

...you can be a Hillary supporter.

[ThePhilosopher04]

59. you mean a tie is a tie. They split the delegates.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. A big, fat K&R!

[MADem]

3. She was supposed to LOSE Kentucky, some said by double digits.

I'd say she did pretty well.

Sanders needed seventy percent of the vote to stay EVEN.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

9. so why would she lose by double digit s when she won big in 2008?

[msongs]

21. because obama is a black man nt

[MADem]

25. Because a white haired guy named Sanders should have an advantage in Kentucky.

Maybe he should have taken a little more effort, and grown himself a stash/goatee...?




HRC has ground game. Tad Devine and Jeff Weaver think it's smart to FIRE staff who do that ground game stuff. Go figure.

[Number23]

34. You made an already hilarious (though unintentionally so) thread even better

[MADem]

38. Heh heh! nt

[rbrnmw]

40. OMG too funny

[joshcryer]

48. HAHA

Beautiful!

[Demsrule86]

66. First of all

She is running against a white guy...yeah it matters in Kentucky. Secondly, coal...Bernie has pretended to support coal. Kentucky is red anyway.

[CorporatistNation]

13. Numbers Do NOT Matter! It's The Perception As Much As The Fact That Bernie Wins Where She Loses!

So WHO do you want as your nominee? The WINNER or The LOSER?

[MADem]

17. The winner is the woman who walks into the convention with MILLIONS more votes than the loser! nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

23. we need someone who will beat the Republican nominee

and that won't be Hillary

[MADem]

26. Yes, it will be Hillary. You can join, and help, or not. Your choice. nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

28. We'll see

as it is worrying

[MADem]

29. It's done. #math There is no path.

He's already starting to pivot; saying "He'll be damned" if he allows the GOP to win the Presidency.

You're going to see more "Reality" remarks dropped into Ye Olde Stumpe Speech, and at some point, he's going to concede and toss his support to the winner. After all, the winner--that would be Hillary--used HER 'evil' PAC money to help get HIM his Senate seat in 2006. She opened up HER rolodex and asked HER donors to give to him as a favor to her.

So, you can keep hanging on if you'd like. No hurry. But it's over, even if Bernie take OR.

[azurnoir]

33. and we will stay in unless of course the DNC fairygodmother kicks Bernie out

[Demsrule86]

64. Bernie lost

He is the loser and after the Nevada debacle which Bernie refused to condemn, hell would freeze over before I would support him. And, I am betting he has lost any shot with the supers...which is his only path as he did not win by enough votes to matter and lost Kentucky outright. He has no success no matter how it is measured...no popular vote, not enough delegates...big rallies is about it. He could never get enough people to vote for him. And his behavior about Nevada has turned many voters off ...He is low on money too.

[pmorlan1]

31. Delusional

If this is spin it's not very good spin and if this is your true belief you know zip about electoral politics.

[riderinthestorm]

41. Do you have links for forecasts of Hillary losing KY

especially by double digits?



Thanks!

[MADem]

51. A lot of places "update" their info and the old stuff disappears/is changed, but here are a few.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3097933/watch-bernie-sanders-rally-from-paducah-kentucky-live-online-streaming-video-full-replay-for-may-15-rally/

http://polimedia.press/2016/05/11/bernie-sanders-wont-go-away-wins-west-virginia-primary/

https://tylerpedigo.com/2016/05/17/democratic-primary-projections-kentucky-and-oregon-2/

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/look-for-two-more-sanders-upsets-in-ky-and-or.html

[riderinthestorm]

53. Thanks much! I love seeing pundits proven wrong nt

[mindwalker_i]

4. You forgot her friend counting the votes

[hack89]

5. The path to the nomination got harder tonight

going backwards is not a good result if your goal is to be the Democratic nominee.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

12. yes Hillary is going to find it tough over the next few weeks

she's also got Trump on her tail

[hack89]

18. You honestly think Bernie can overtake Hillary in pledged delegates?

I would be curious as to how you think that can happen.

[Doctor Jack]

7. Things change after 8 years

She lost the deep south handily in 2008 but did very well there this year. Different election, different candidates, different demographics, different voters. Overall, she is doing a lot better than in 2008. Winning 1 state by a lot less than nearly 10 years ago is not some harbinger of doom.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

19. For the front runner she should have swept these states

[Doctor Jack]

22. Obama was still losing states long after he became the front runner

Don't read too much into it.

[choie]

32. Yeah but he wasn't 60 points behind

when he entered the race...nor was he known as a Democratic Socialist. All of which should have made this primary season a walk for Clinton...that is if she were a good and likable candidate - which she's not.

[GulfCoast66]

35. Hello

You do realize he is a Black man? Name me a worst starting point that.

[choie]

69. He still wasn't 60 points behind

Come on now - stop with the bullshit

[GulfCoast66]

8. When you reach the point

that you are explaining that a loss is actually a win, it is time to pack it in.

I like Bernie, but he has no chance. It is not the math that is against him, nor the establishment, but the voters.

I love youthful enthusiasm, but in the end we all grow up and accept reality. If Bernie had a chance, I would be all for him, but it really is over. Hell, Clinton was much closer to Obama back in 08.

[dana_b]

43. He beat her in Oregon handily

and tied in KY - and he should "pack it in"?

Seems that the voters are NOT against him! The MSM, the Dem establishment and Hillary supporters, yes, but not the voters.

[GulfCoast66]

46. This isn't American Idol

Where we start new each week. The results from February and March are just as relevant as today's results. And he actually lost ground tonight. Every time it is a close finish his hurdle gets higher.

Bernie has lost. I do not expect him to concede until after California. But anyone who understands math can see the writing on the wall.

I almost voted for Bernie, but now I am glad I didn't. I wanted him to pull the party to the left, and he has done so. But now I am worried he is more of a Socialist then a Democrat and Will burn down the house if he does not win.

[dana_b]

49. wow - I'm not even going to read past your insulting reply title

goodbye

[GulfCoast66]

50. Holy cow!

Apparently I have been put on ignore twice in the last 30 minutes. And I did not even get to make any good insults! I just stated my opinion. I thought this was a discussion board not an agreement one. If everyone here agreeed with me I would quickly stop reading.

It appears open discussion and polite disagreement is too stressful for some of our members. And they retreat to their safe space called ignore

[Demsrule86]

65. He beat her by 9 points

This is his sort of state and there was no landslide...this result does nothing for him...it is over.

[litlbilly]

44. and you have no chance of not ending up on my ignore list. by by

[GulfCoast66]

47. LOL

I can't imagine being such a snowflake as to be unable to hear, or in this case read, opinions that differ than mine.

But I'm glad people like this have a little safe space.

Real life must suck for you.

[caquillo]

54. Most of Sanders' supporters are millennials

i.e. College-age and twentysomethings. These kids, born about 1995 or so, were raised entirely different than us older people. This is probably the first Presidential election where the "everyone gets a trophy" millennials have been able to vote. These kids who grew up using playgrounds with foam on the ground and plastic covering the handles of the swings, so that they don't get pinched, and who were covered from head to toe before they were allowed to go ride their bike around the neighborhood. They were raised to believe that they're special and entitled to everything, so Bernie's message is right on par with how they were brought up and anyone with an opposing opinion is "the enemy" or coming from "not a safe space," and it's been fascinating to see how that upbringing has translated into politics.

[Voice for Peace]

61. Ugh.. Utterly subjective broadbrush bullshit.

[GulfCoast66]

70. It is bigger than that

Any liberal voter coming of voting age after 2004 has never seen their candidate lose. So anyone between 18-30. Throw in the coddled life many, but not all, have lived and this is what you get. There are still lots kids who have had to struggled.

When many of us turned 18 it was either go to college, in which case we got to live at home, or move out. The main reason I finished college is because when I discussed dropping out with my father he told me that he would let me stay at home for one month to find a job and a place to live. After that I was out the door. Needless to say I have a degree.

When I moved to Florida to start my new job he gave me a briefcase! He was a great father.

[StevieM]

10. I expect her to win California decisively and to win New Jersey in a landslide.

I also expect her to win big in New Mexico.

[Ed Suspicious]

27. Lower your expectations.

[StevieM]

30. Those are my lowered expectations. I gave you the Dakotas.

I remember hearing that Hillary would lose in Ohio, New York and Pennsylvania. That didn't happen.

Hillary is dominating among Latinos so I think it is reasonable to predict that she will win New Mexico. The Latino vote will also likely give her a win in California.

And New Jersey doesn't seem like a good state for Bernie and does seem like a good state for Hillary. Kind of like Florida.

[YouDig]

11. Oh, yeah! He's totally got the nomination! #berniemath

[anotherproletariat]

16. A good night all around! As a Hillary supporter, we were expecting to lose both by large margins,

but as it stands she will likely still get more delegates when the night is done. I am truly happy that you are satisfied as well, it is the best way to have any chance of all of us unifying in the end.

[Jitter65]

36. Yes. But the play is to make it look like expected wins for Hillary.

It really is shameful to rile all those people up for violence and uncivil behavior when he knows he is going to lose. His intent is to just disrupt and destroy Hillary. He really only cares about adulation and disruption. He has no intention of helping the Dems to win in November. He will be satisfied to say "I told you so."

He is basically and angry, evil old man.

[uponit7771]

20. The establishment usually has a hard time recognizing the "others" accomplishments

[MrMickeysMom]

24. Another YUGE K&R, Rosa...

I believe corporate Democrats are indistinguishable from their handlers at GE, Goldman, Ernst & Young, Time Warner, DLA Piper, or Citigroup. And, if all the GE employees behaved and reported as they should whilst the ads keep pouring in and lobbyist keep writing the bills while funding the SuperPACs, why, they just might have thought to have wrapped it up much sooner.

It must really piss them off to know they cannot tell people to "take their seat" without a fight.

[Tarc]

39. #berniemath

[litlbilly]

45. Hills must be out in force. 44 replys and I see 2 of them:)

[Garrett78]

55. 2 states with demographics that favor Sanders.

And he lost ground by not winning by the margins he needed to win by. I don't know how that can be considered "very good" for Sanders.

[larkrake]

58. She is rolling downhill, she has no future

Given the coronation we have all witnessed, she should have clinched this last month. When she does win, it will be a hollow victory. She inspires no enthusiasm. This is going to be a bloodbath- Trump for sure

[Demsrule86]

67. she has clinched the nomination

There is no path for the Bern...he just won't admit it.

[larkrake]

60. Pike county was so wierd

If the zero out forces a recount in Pike, Bernie will win Kentucky- not that it matters in delegates, but I bet Hillary isnt sleeping tonight

[Demsrule86]

62. It was not a good result

And Clinton was not running against a person of color...face it which makes a difference in Kentucky. Also, Bernie loves him some coal these days (hypocrite?) He needed a landslide and did not get one. She is less than 100 delegates away from the nomination. Bernie looks increasingly desperate. I doubt it is the fault of his campaign guys...no professional would give him such poor advice. Thus, Bernie himself is driving the increasingly negative attack on Clinton and on the Democratic Party. Maybe he really is delusional and believes he can win? Maybe he needs money (the cynic in me says this is the reason) or maybe he is bitter and angry after believing for a New York second he could be president and has decided to blow up the election and hand a victory to Trump. I don't know. But his speech last night was awful, and he didn't address the dreadful behavior of some of his supporters in Nevada; calling Democratic women filthy names is never acceptable for any reason.

[beachbum bob]

68. hillary needs less than 100 delegates now...yes a very good night for sanders if you live in a

world where up is down...and left is right....