Debbier Schultz on CNN: Chairs were thrown at the stage!

[.99center]

You guy's are burning down the party with these types of lies.

[jwirr]

1. I think Tim needs some more money.

[Nanjeanne]

11. +100000

[Luminous Animal]

2. It's as if they don't realize the internet exists.

[arcane1]

6. Their target audience is the old white republicans now, who use television more than the internet.

These scary, violent socialists will remind that audience of what happened last time: uppity brown people stopped calling them "sir".

[desmiller]

3. She's Right. I have proof.

[jwirr]

13. Is this the video that Rachel was showing?????

[desmiller]

15. I knew I was forgetting something.......

[MrMickeysMom]

43. LOL!

"Stop the chairs!"

[AgingAmerican]

4. So it did come from the DNC

Just as we thought

Here is the 'chair' video

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/732618967181746178/pu/vid/190x180/8dyLZHoQhOqf1kkl.mp4

[bunnies]

12. Just as I thought. More bullshit from camp imavictim.

Repeated ad nauseaum.

[YouDig]

5. Only conspiracy theorists are denying that.

[bunnies]

9. Finally! Someone with proof.

Please post the video. I've been asking for days!

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. Will you post the actual video of CHAIRS thrown at the stage?

That will settle it, and I promise a real cookie, not just a virtual one

[YouDig]

24. There's nothing to "settle", it's been widely and credibly reported.

Conspiracy theorists are going to do what they do.

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. Except that the guy who was cockrusre about it

has walked THAT PARTICULAR claim back, And ONE REPORTER, is not widely reported. Mind you, that be an exclusive in the business but when he has now waked it back... that means that it is no longer reliable.

So do you have a video?

I don't think so, since none exists.

[YouDig]

26. He hasn't walked back anything. He repeated on MSNBC that there were multiple eyewitnesses.

Also reported by NYT, AP, WP, the Nation, and others. Believe what you will, like I said about conspiracy theorists. Also keep being mystified that cellphones can be carried from one state to another. That was a good one.

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. The rest took his report and repeteated it

because he has a very good reputation. I know how this business works, and he did walk that claim back. Nor did he interview anybody on tape. standard practice these days, or has his own video or photos showing this.

[YouDig]

31. And you know this because you were in the newsroom simultaneously in all those places.

Amazing, since you don't even believe that a phone can be carried from one state to another.

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. Amazing since all reoorted the same

and credited Ralston

By the way, here is ONLY ONE VIDEO that actually exists, and does not show a chair thrown

[YouDig]

35. Well, no, that didn't happen. Just like Ralston didn't walk anything back.

And just like cell phones can be carried from one place to another.

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. There is only ONE FUCKING VIDEO

whether you like it or not, and he did walk it back on MSBNC...

[YouDig]

39. And multiple eyewitnesses, as Ralston reiterated on MSNBC.

I guess there aren't any videos of people carrying cell phones from LA to Vegas either. I'm starting to understand.

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. This is not 1992, where are the other videos

and he did walk it back.

And you cannot produce any video. Now keep pissing off people, you do a good job of it.

Have a good evening

[HooptieWagon]

55. Multiple "eyewitnesses", and not a single video?

Wow, y'alls Brock bullshit is getting really deep.

[YouDig]

56. Take it up with the NYT,AP,WP,...

[nadinbrzezinski]

70. Propaganda

derogatory
information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
"he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda"
synonyms: information, promotion, advertising, publicity, spin; More
2.


That is what you are seeing at this point,. The problem is that many folks understand that our modern day MSM is not unlike PRAVDA oh circal 1990...

[YouDig]

72. Ahh, yes. The NYT is like the Pravda. Delicious! Keep those conspiracies coming!

[nadinbrzezinski]

74. That is not a CT theory

manufacturing consent is a well known technique,

“The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.”


― George Orwell
tags: attributed-no-source, truth Read more quotes from George Orwell

[YouDig]

76. That's exactly what it is, in fact.

[kaleckim]

40. Room full of cameras, no proof

you are all lying and you know it. There is no proof of this, no videos of this, and it may be news to you, but the newspapers often repeat things that aren't true, and tend to rely on the same sources. Who were the original sources they cite? You don't care, because you aren't trying to have an honest conversation or to be accurate, you're busy lying on behalf of the DNC and Clinton to cover up the embarrassing videos that emerged from the Vegas debacle. It's amazing how tone deaf you people are, and how monumentally short sighted and destructive this whole thing has been, and over what? A few delegates? Were there any adults in the room when this rat *uck of an idea was being thrown around?

[MrMickeysMom]

45. Except, that there WEREN'T!

Enough of this bullshit. Here's the proof of your bullshit -

[YouDig]

49. According to Jon Ralston there were. And Roberta Lange said chairs were thrown.

Reported in NYT, AP, WP, the Nation, and more. Sorry, going with the credible sources instead of the angry Bernie supporters on the internet.

[nadinbrzezinski]

52. Show me the videos

also show me the charging sheets. Throwing chairs is assault

[MrMickeysMom]

53. Oh, so that means that you can't watch the actual footage...

Is it against the code book all those reliable people at the New York Times, Washington Post, and AP, then?

Hey... Don't apologize to me... Talk to the generations following you who will have gone way beyond my bewilderment.

For FUCK sake, I've never seen such insanity.

[nadinbrzezinski]

58. I have... but not in the United States

the 2006 Mexican election, saw the same kind of assaults on the character of PRD fans, and actual physical assaults from PAN fans, in the name of Felipe Calderon. As you may, or may not remember, that election was likely stolen using the same mechanisms that were used in OH at Cuyahooga county. Yes, the central tabulators were likely hacked.

In 2012 there are rumors that this happened to get Pena Nieto to power.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/31/mexico-presidential-election-enrique-pena-nieto-hacking

And we had a recent piece detailing some of that here in the states

So what is going on here, is part of a more regional, if not outright global, fight between the neoliberals and the rest of the people.

[MrMickeysMom]

66. Yes, we read that in the Guardian, nadin...

I'll bet it was worth the 10 years in prison, as this hacker/disruptor probably has some money stashed away and he's young enough to enjoy the spoils, maybe sooner for good behavior, yeah?

<snip>

“My job was to do actions of dirty war and psychological operations, black propaganda, rumours – the whole dark side of politics that nobody knows exists but everyone can see,”

Yeah, that's about the recipe. Of course, the committed somehow don't think anything happens in the United States. Crazy shit.

[nadinbrzezinski]

69. Yeah it is crazy

and the mood in Mexico was dark after 2006. Yeah I was there for my aunt's funeral, but I got to talk to people. And people were beyond outraged. But there was a clear social class division, like here actually. The demonstrations due to Ayotzinapa were just a moment in time, but like here, people are getting radicalized.

I do not think some of the clinton fans understand exactly what seeds they are planting. It won't be me, but the youth is starting to sound like their counterparts across the world.

[MrMickeysMom]

89. I'd call what you witnessed a clear and objective warning...

Those who do not learn by history... world history, not just what make their head bob with comfort and ignorance, will surely see history repeated.

No, I don't want this. I would much rather we PROGRESSED. The world is going to count on it.

[HooptieWagon]

62. And not a single video.

A couple thousand cell phones in the room, and not a single chair-throwing video. Another Clinton-Lange lie exposed for all to see.

[YouDig]

65. If "for all to see" means conspiracy theorists who think that the NYT,AP,WP,Nation,

and a bunch of others are all trying to take Bernie down, then sure.

[HooptieWagon]

67. They're repeating Lange's big lie. But NO video.

A few thousand cell phones in the room, and not a single chair-throwing video? Why is that?

[YouDig]

68. Yes, you've got it all figured out. Sorry, I'll stick with the credible reports from

multiple journals. Enjoy the conspiracy theories.

[HooptieWagon]

71. "Credible reports"

Like "English only"? "Bernie wasn't Civil Rights activist"?
When medias only source is Clinton surrogates, and their track record is lying, it takes a special kind of gullible to believe them.

[YouDig]

75. Yes, I consider something reported in multiple major papers credible.

I don't consider things posted by Bernie supporters on reddit to be credible. For example, the totally baseless assumption that there is only one source and that the one source is a Clinton surrogate. I don't know if you made that up or read it somewhere, but that is a great example of something not credible.

[HooptieWagon]

77. You've been Capeharted.

Perhaps you wise up in the future.

[.99center]

27. Why not just put "Conspiracy theorists" in your sig line

It would save you a lot of time. Still nothing I see...

[kaleckim]

34. You're confused

none of you (likely paid) propagandists have any proof. YOU'RE the conspiracy and you're lying. How you all think this makes sense is beyond me. Clinton is now essentially tied now with Trump (the most unpopular candidate in polling history), is not trusted, polls worse than Sanders versus him. She needs his supporters and you all seem to think this is 1993 and you can pull this garbage with the left and pay no consequences. Those days are over. Hard to put into words how monumentally bad, and short sighted, this decision is.

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. Exactly

and there is this thing called the Internet... They seem to think the MSM can control the sheep

[kaleckim]

41. Well

most of them still live in 1994, when you could do this to the left and not pay for it. Days are gone, maybe they'll wake up to this before it's too late, if it isn't already.

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. I think it is already too late

[kaleckim]

47. Should be

It's fascinating, watching the leaders of this dying system and party act this way. In most elections, people will attack a candidate, but try to do so in a way that doesn't alienate his or her supporters. This election has largely been the DNC and Clinton supporters attacking his supporters. He gets attacked of course, often dishonestly, but lately the majority of attacks are against his supporters, and they are now blatantly lying. It says a lot about what they think of the left. They not only despise people that want to fundamentally change a system THEY benefit from, but they also aren't concerned that this could bite them in the ass. The country has changed a lot in the last decade or so, and they're about to find out how much.

[catnhatnh]

61. It's been widely reported

because people much like you repeat the lie repeatedly even after it has been reported that the guy who started the lie has retracted it.

[YouDig]

63. Jon Ralston didn't retract anything. He repeated it on MSNBC.

And it wasn't me who wrote the articles in the NYT,AP,WP,etc.

[grasswire]

78. On MSNBC he said "I wasn't there"

He has no knowledge of chair being thrown.

If someone told it to him, he does not cite that source. He DOES NOT SOURCE HIS ACCUSATION.

[YouDig]

79. And then he said that there were multiple witnesses.

You keep omitting that part. Why do you do that?

[grasswire]

80. I SAID: Name the sources.

If he has sources, name them.

Otherwise, it's bogus.

[YouDig]

81. Fact is, he didn't retract anything. If you want to accuse him of lying, go ahead.

I'll trust him and all the other credible papers that reported the same thing over you and a bunch of internet conspiracy theorists. But if you claim he retracted it, then you're just wrong.

[grasswire]

82. you keep moving the goal posts.

I'm done with your ridiculous circular "logic"

[YouDig]

83. No that's you. You dishonestly claimed that Ralston recanted, and deliberately leave out

the fact that he said on MSNBC that there were multiple witnesses. We both know why you do that: to give a false impression about what Ralston is reporting.

[azurnoir]

87. There were LEO's present why no arrests? Disorderly conduct or even assault ?

[Skwmom]

7. What do you expect of someone who thinks it's okay for payday lenders to rip off the working class.

She has NO moral compass.

[onecaliberal]

8. But they say nothing about her supporter punching a woman in the face

[Jitter65]

10. I guess I shouldn't believe my lying eyes? nt

[.99center]

17. Hey, if I'm wrong I'll be happy to apologize and leave GD:P

I'm begging you, post a video of a chair being thrown. If a Hillary supporter can share any one of the video's you claim to have seen of a chair being thrown at the stage, I'll leave GD

[.99center]

18. Still waiting and my offer still stands

[MrMickeysMom]

48. There is no chair being thrown...

See post #45...

[timmymoff]

54. All the people there and yet not one ounce of video proof

The thrown chairs are similar to bigfoot in the amount of times filmed.

[HooptieWagon]

57. Everybody has a cellphone, every phone has video.

And yet not a single video of a chair being thrown. Looks like Camp Weathervane has been caught in a big fat lie, again.

[azurnoir]

88. a d what did they see com'on post it up for us

[synergie]

14. Berning down the party is your goal hence the lies about your actions.

[Downwinder]

16. Just keep your doors secured,

so Clinton supporters don't come barging in.

[Beacool]

19. It was a lot more than throwing chairs.

Wasserman Schultz told CNN's Wolf Blitzer that she thought Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid's request that Sanders issue a statement about the chaos "was enough. Unfortunately, the senator's response was anything but acceptable. It certainly did not condemn his supporters for acting violently or engaging in intimidation tactics and instead added more fuel to the fire."

Sanders issued a defiant statement Tuesday, knocking Democratic Party leaders in Nevada and threatening national party leaders with potential damage in the general election.

"It is never OK for violence and intimidation to be the response to that frustration. That's what happens with the Trump campaign. We can never resort to the tactics that they engage in," Wasserman Schultz said.

Sanders supporters shut down the Nevada Democrats' convention Saturday, reportedly flinging chairs and sending death threats to the state party chairwoman. But in a statement Tuesday, Sanders accused state party leaders of ramming through rules that he said blocked his supporters and threatened the national party with potentially dire consequences in the general election.


Sanders' response doesn't surprise me. He has spent his political life riling people, not uniting them.

[.99center]

21. Here we go, a long time poster who has been here a while,who I can assume cares about misinformation

Was a chair thrown at the stage, if not then where are her supporters in stopping this smear campaign of fellow Democrats? Crap I guess should've read the smear's against your fellow D's before asking you. Beacool, and back up your claims please.

[Beacool]

28. It has been reported by various sources.

I wasn't there to confirm it, but neither were most of those here who keep defending that type of behavior.

[.99center]

46. DWS just made the claim on CNN about the chair being thrown at the stage

There is no multiple sources, just one DWS. Jon Ralston's tweet was the source of the chair being thrown, but he never claimed that it was thrown at the stage, he walked it back on msnbc and said he didn't see it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

51. All going back to Jon Ralston who walked it back on MSNBC this afternoon

after the actual single video of a chair being lifted and out down, not thrown, emerged.

This might be news to you, but phones have video capabilities, pretty good actually, and the internet is really helping to push back on bullshit reporting.

[kiva]

84. Beacool, you and I have never crossed swords here.

I have appreciated many of your posts even though we are currently on different sides.

I was at the convention. I did not see any chairs being thrown. After Ralston began posting this story a friend who was also a delegate at the convention messaged me and she said she hadn't seen this happen, had I? So I asked two more people who were at the convention - nope. I watched easily a dozen videos, not thrown chairs. Today a FB friend messaged me, she was sitting in the second row in front of the stage and she did not see any chairs thrown.

Ralston admitted he had lied, that he had not seen this happen.

[Beacool]

85. Hi, thank you for the explanation.

I didn't know that the media was quoting Ralston and that his version of events was not truthful.

I stand corrected.

[kiva]

86. You're welcome.

See you on the other side of this madness.

[Beacool]

90. Yep, hopefully we will unite as a party.

The prospect of a Trump presidency is too scary.

[kaleckim]

36. You people are gone logically

and have flipped reality on its head. The video from Vegas looked horrible for the DNC and Clinton. Horrible, and unnecessary. How do you not take responsibility for the chaos or the lack of party unity, at least partially? You all responded to looking bad by essentially lying in mass, and for what? Three delegates that she might not even need? THAT is what you decided to implode the party over? If any of you can provide a video of property damage, violence or chair throwing, present it. If you can't, then stop lying, which is what you're doing.

[MrMickeysMom]

50. Except that it WASN'T EVEN THAT...

I post amongst the Stepford Wives. How else to explain this constant drone of lies.

Sanders supporters... See post #45. Really... Go ahead and actually look at it.

Defiant, my ass. I'll tell you about intimidating things. You'll find them within your own mockingbird posts.

Those who do not see are blind by arrangement, or derangement. Which one are you?

[hollowdweller]

64. Babies ripped from incubators!

[hollowdweller]

59. I hate to say it but I think it's overblown.

The party elite are just trying to use the Nevada thing like they used the dean scream to defeat the non corporate candidate.

[Seeinghope]

20. I keep forgetting, Miss Manners says only use you best etiquette when people keep stealing from you!

[silvershadow]

23. She's such a drama queen when covering her own tracks. nt

[Mike__M]

29. Can I play?

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[kaleckim]

32. Blatant lying

Kiss party unity goodbye. As someone said the last few days, the Clinton campaign and the DNC have not even focused their attacks on a candidate lately, they've focused their attacks on his supporters. Well, piss off then, and good luck in the months ahead. The corrupt people running the party and spreading this propaganda don't share my values and stand for everything I want out of politics in the US.

[HooptieWagon]

60. They've been lying from the get go.

No shock. DWS was lying her ass off in the 2008 Gl primary she screwed up, and Clinton's have an extensive history of lying, even under oath. And then there's the smear keister David Brock. The real shocker would be if any of this cabal were to ever tell the truth. Most corrupt candidate, ever.

[Time for change]

73. The Hillary campaign is burning down the party with election fraud