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DWS up soon on CNN to talk about "concerns about what might happen in Phila" (Original Post) grasswire May 2016 OP
Thanks for the heads up. riversedge May 2016 #1
Maybe she'll also tell us how she knows Hillary's not a target. n/t winter is coming May 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author NowSam May 2016 #3
NDP like Canada. Or Progressive Party/Progressive Left Party (PP, PLP) snowy owl May 2016 #35
People's Labor Party..... socialist_n_TN May 2016 #48
"concerns about what might happen in Phila" stonecutter357 May 2016 #4
Oh. No doubt they will. bunnies May 2016 #7
don't start no stuff won't be no stuff... stonecutter357 May 2016 #8
Right. Swat is known to "start no stuff". bunnies May 2016 #10
NO AMOUNT of blood will satisfy the Clinton supporters. John Poet May 2016 #42
Indeed. bunnies May 2016 #65
Correct. SWAT teams... scscholar May 2016 #51
Mayor Daley, is that you? HooptieWagon May 2016 #56
Gotta bring those superpredators to heel. chascarrillo May 2016 #60
Vile sanders fans Behavior drove themselves out. they need to take responsibilty for riversedge May 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author NowSam May 2016 #23
The Millennial loathing of Hillary is a real entity. Arugula Latte May 2016 #6
It's not just millennials. nt bunnies May 2016 #9
True. Arugula Latte May 2016 #20
I'm 43 and I know no one who will support her in the general. bunnies May 2016 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #38
Watch Stein's numbers. HooptieWagon May 2016 #61
I wouldn't bet against you on that. bunnies May 2016 #66
um, the loathing is experienced by many age groups amborin May 2016 #17
EVERY ELECTION OF MY ENTIRE LIFE THERE'S BEEN A BUSH OR A CLINTON XemaSab May 2016 #43
Wow, that is crazy. And depressing. Arugula Latte May 2016 #50
The purpose of a convention is to unify behind a candidate. HooptieWagon May 2016 #11
"violence and intimidation not acceptable" grasswire May 2016 #12
"a shame that chairs were thrown" grasswire May 2016 #14
"No ifs ands and buts" grasswire May 2016 #15
more grasswire May 2016 #19
Did she actually say that? winter is coming May 2016 #18
she did say that. nt grasswire May 2016 #21
Is it any wonder why MuseRider May 2016 #39
yes, and I regret toning in to hear that icecreamfan May 2016 #24
Wow, what a disgraceful liar icecreamfan May 2016 #13
"The DMC is neutral but..." snowy owl May 2016 #16
She is a total disgrace. SamKnause May 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #28
Van Jones just called her out. SamKnause May 2016 #31
That was my thought dflprincess May 2016 #52
Supreme shit stirrers. SamKnause May 2016 #54
reaction by Dana BAsh grasswire May 2016 #25
'Nothing neutral" about DWS tirade - you hear that? DWS was smoking mad. snowy owl May 2016 #29
Yes, she did! MelissaB May 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #40
I suspect the alleged threats were plants. nt grasswire May 2016 #49
I have always thought that -- this has Brock's fingerprints all over it (eom) Samantha May 2016 #62
I said the same thing yesterday. I'd wager there are six pissed off Clintonistas who replied to that VulgarPoet May 2016 #67
"Crooked hillary?" Seriously? So now the Bernie or Bust loons Adenoid_Hynkel May 2016 #53
DWS behavior has caused me to distrust Hillary The empressof all May 2016 #64
Well that was helpful...the shit is about to hit the fan... Purveyor May 2016 #30
in a traditional campaign year each lie is another spot on a candidate even if it's retracted MisterP May 2016 #32
"capehart" as a verb. grasswire May 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #34
Can't watch RM; is R eating it up and adding dessert? Dana Bash is better . . . Dana is neutral. snowy owl May 2016 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #37
My reaction, she is going to get what she wants nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #41
nadin, they are really pushing for violence grasswire May 2016 #44
I know, and damn this is on the other side of the country nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #47
Debbie is a cancer to the Democratic party and Democratic values ram2008 May 2016 #46
Sanders won't be the nominee. Beacool May 2016 #55
Many of the responses to this OP are examples of what DWS ecstatic May 2016 #57
If Hillary is afraid of a couple hundred Sanders delegates.... HooptieWagon May 2016 #58
Well, she alone is responsible for it...the early and sustained collusion with HRC, silvershadow May 2016 #59
this: amborin May 2016 #63
I can't help but feel like I predicted this. VulgarPoet May 2016 #68
It's all in their plan to paint Bernie Delegates as the disruptors in preparation for the Convention B Calm May 2016 #69

Response to grasswire (Original post)

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
48. People's Labor Party.....
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:50 PM
May 2016

I don't really care about the name as long as it represents the working class as a whole and NOT the owners.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
42. NO AMOUNT of blood will satisfy the Clinton supporters.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:47 PM
May 2016

They're like Mayor Daley. Protesters are "terrorists".

riversedge

(70,243 posts)
5. Vile sanders fans Behavior drove themselves out. they need to take responsibilty for
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:59 PM
May 2016

their bad behavior and stop blaming it on others.

Response to riversedge (Reply #5)

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
6. The Millennial loathing of Hillary is a real entity.
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:59 PM
May 2016

I've seen it in a large swath of politically aware young people.

Hopefully they can eventually wrestle the party back from the DWS-Clintonian corrupt DINOs.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
20. True.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:08 PM
May 2016

I started talking politics with a longtime friend today (we're both well into middle age) and mentioned that I thought Hillary was thoroughly corrupt and I couldn't stand her. She quickly said "Everyone hates Hillary!" And she, like me, considers herself a hardcore liberal.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
27. I'm 43 and I know no one who will support her in the general.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:10 PM
May 2016

There are a lot of "homeless" dems this cycle.

Response to bunnies (Reply #27)

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
61. Watch Stein's numbers.
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:12 PM
May 2016

More of my friends intend to vote for Stein than Hillary. She got .5% in 2012... it will be interesting to see what she gets this Nov against two extremely un likeable candidates. Nader holds the Green high water Mark at 2.5% in 2000. I'll bet Stein blows that out of the water.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
66. I wouldn't bet against you on that.
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:06 AM
May 2016

Especially after what will likely be an extremely unpleasant convention.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
43. EVERY ELECTION OF MY ENTIRE LIFE THERE'S BEEN A BUSH OR A CLINTON
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:47 PM
May 2016

And I'm within spitting distance of 40.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. The purpose of a convention is to unify behind a candidate.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:03 PM
May 2016

We'll see how good a job DWS and HRC do. I kind of suspect when a substantial portion of the party is told to sit down and shut up, "you get nothing", ...they aren't going to feel very unified, and just might rain on Hillary's little coronation ceremony.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
14. "a shame that chairs were thrown"
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:05 PM
May 2016

Sanders must condemn that conduct and make sure that frustration over process must be civil and orderly and not result in violence and intimidation....Sanders has not condemned it."

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
15. "No ifs ands and buts"
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:06 PM
May 2016

She has not talked to Bernie. She left it up to Bernie.

"Sanders' response was not acceptable; it added more fuel to the fire."

"Never okay for violence and intimidation to be the response."

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
19. more
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:08 PM
May 2016

"we will have conversations at the staff level and with both campaigns to make sure it is not more difficult to comply......must speak out against violence and intimidation."

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
39. Is it any wonder why
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:44 PM
May 2016

he caucused with the Dems but remained an Independent?

This is inexcusable to expect a grown person to be scolded like this and then to bow their head and apologize.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
16. "The DMC is neutral but..."
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:07 PM
May 2016

What a but. "Like I said I was not there but..." Violence. I saw no violence. Who saw violence? Much ado about very little.

Wolf: have you reached out personally to Bernie? DWS: uh,uh I have not. I've communicated through blah, blah, blah. Wolf: You're the leader of the party, why not... DWS: blah, blah, blah and umms.

Poor dear. She's beside herself . . . She's one angry mama.

Dana Bash excellent analysis I think. Good discussion.

Response to SamKnause (Reply #22)

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
52. That was my thought
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:57 PM
May 2016

though I was thinking more along the lines that she's trying to start the fire.

The more I hear the more convinced I am that Brock's fingerprints are all over the events of the last few days.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
25. reaction by Dana BAsh
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:10 PM
May 2016

"a very telling interview. She really condemned the violence....important that she did NOT PICK UP THE PHONE and talk to Sanders."

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
29. 'Nothing neutral" about DWS tirade - you hear that? DWS was smoking mad.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:13 PM
May 2016

Van Jones: "she just added fuel to the fire." Panel seems to agree.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
33. Yes, she did!
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:17 PM
May 2016

She added fuel and made it even clearer that she hasn't been neutral during this process.

Response to grasswire (Original post)

Response to cyberpj (Reply #26)

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
67. I said the same thing yesterday. I'd wager there are six pissed off Clintonistas who replied to that
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:50 AM
May 2016

who I've had on Ignore for the past two months?

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
53. "Crooked hillary?" Seriously? So now the Bernie or Bust loons
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:00 PM
May 2016

Are just flat out letting Donald Trump write their dialogue.
Time to just call these people what they are: Trump supporters
Your potential fuhrer thanks you, lemmings

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
64. DWS behavior has caused me to distrust Hillary
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:27 PM
May 2016

Due to Debbie, My outrage grows every day with the Party. I am a middle class, college educated, liberal, white, Senior woman who has always voted Democratic. I should be the prime Hillary Demographic. I am in a very Blue state. I never thought I would even have to question who I would vote for in November...(well certainly never Trump--) But how can I support a party led by such a despicable woman.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
30. Well that was helpful...the shit is about to hit the fan...
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:14 PM
May 2016


This is going to get so much uglier than I could have imagined...

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
32. in a traditional campaign year each lie is another spot on a candidate even if it's retracted
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:16 PM
May 2016

later; now with a candidate whose reputation is swiftly transmuting into pure sleaze, who's not trusted, liked, or even a solid candidate against Trump with the general public, they're just Capeharting themselves over and over without realizing it's not working in the long run

Response to grasswire (Original post)

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
36. Can't watch RM; is R eating it up and adding dessert? Dana Bash is better . . . Dana is neutral.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:32 PM
May 2016

Dana is a real journalist.

Response to snowy owl (Reply #36)

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
44. nadin, they are really pushing for violence
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:49 PM
May 2016

They want to paint Bernie as dangerous as Trump, and paint Hillary as the calm and safe one.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
55. Sanders won't be the nominee.
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:01 PM
May 2016

Time to face reality. Obama won in 2008 with a razor thin advantage in both pledged delegates and the popular vote. Hillary is far ahead of Sanders on both counts, she will be the nominee.

Going with that premise, what would be a working strategy to bring the Millenials into the fold? After all, they are the ones who would be affected the most by a Trump presidency.

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
57. Many of the responses to this OP are examples of what DWS
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:06 PM
May 2016

and others are talking about. I understand voicing displeasure or frustration based on issues, but Bernie fans always take it to the next level of viciousness in their personal attacks of democrats who disagree with them. It's not cool.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
58. If Hillary is afraid of a couple hundred Sanders delegates....
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:07 PM
May 2016

Then she's completely ill-prepared to face down ISIS as Commander in Chief.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
59. Well, she alone is responsible for it...the early and sustained collusion with HRC,
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:08 PM
May 2016

the clear favoritism, the quote about the grassroots, Debbie-gate, on and on...

amborin

(16,631 posts)
63. this:
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:27 PM
May 2016

There was just a 5 minute debate on @CNN, lead by @PaulBegala about whether or not Sanders supporters support murdering people.

from Twitter


talk about staged coordinated smearing

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
68. I can't help but feel like I predicted this.
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:55 AM
May 2016

I. I feel this is a setup.
II. Not only that, but I feel this was a setup with plausible deniability in mind.
III. If one were to believe this were a setup, all of a sudden everything falls into place with one endgame in mind.
IV. Barring Bernie supporters from Philadelphia, and coronating Hillary with no recourse to try and change the game.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
69. It's all in their plan to paint Bernie Delegates as the disruptors in preparation for the Convention
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:59 AM
May 2016
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