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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:44 PM May 2016

Hillary may have won the nomination. But almost half of the voters should NOT be discounted

If Clinton is the nominee she and the rest of the DemEstablishment better damn well take seriously the fact that there is a huge dissatisfaction with the status quo.

If they ignore, dismiss or attempt to marginalize that -- even is she and the status quo "win" the White House, she and the Democratic Party will "win" the battle but lose the larger war.

Wake up and smell the coffee. The "left" is not a fringe minority. It is a large and substantial portion of the population.

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Hillary may have won the nomination. But almost half of the voters should NOT be discounted (Original Post) Armstead May 2016 OP
So you think Obama shouldn't have discounted Clinton voters in 2008? brooklynite May 2016 #1
There was not as much difference in policy...And I don't recall that he discounted them Armstead May 2016 #3
There's almost no difference in policy between these two either (nt) Recursion May 2016 #14
No comparison to today's rivalry and you know it... AuntPatsy May 2016 #4
Did you see this article that XemaSab posted about the 2008 Kentucky primary? PufPuf23 May 2016 #18
Both Hillary and her super-delegates ignore us at their own jwirr May 2016 #2
Discounted, no. But the minority doesn't get to make DEMANDS. CrowCityDem May 2016 #5
The problem with your comment is that you do not take into consideration all the voters bkkyosemite May 2016 #8
That kind of arrogance is exactly what I am referring to Armstead May 2016 #9
So anything short of capitulation to the losing side is "blowing them off"? CrowCityDem May 2016 #12
You are making it a zero sum game Armstead May 2016 #22
I didn't make it that. CrowCityDem May 2016 #23
the minority would like to be included in some way oldandhappy May 2016 #15
They will be. They just won't get everything they want, as they shouldn't. CrowCityDem May 2016 #17
you won't vote for hillary, fine. highly unlikely "half the voters" will agree with you nt msongs May 2016 #6
I will vote for her -- But enough may not give a shit that it could make a difference Armstead May 2016 #10
They and the establishment have been continually ignoring the supporters of Bernie. bkkyosemite May 2016 #7
And its gong to bite them in the butt -- there are a lot more than there used to be Armstead May 2016 #11
she does not care oldandhappy May 2016 #13
A few million voters less -- not half. But you're right that their views should be considered. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #16
Does she have 2383 yet? She has not WON Vincardog May 2016 #19
I said MAY have won.....I know it's not over til its over Armstead May 2016 #21
He should get input on the platform Turin_C3PO May 2016 #20

PufPuf23

(8,791 posts)
18. Did you see this article that XemaSab posted about the 2008 Kentucky primary?
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:10 PM
May 2016

Very interesting in context of today and answers your questions.

Very concise and revealing article,

Thanks again to XemaSab.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
8. The problem with your comment is that you do not take into consideration all the voters
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:51 PM
May 2016

who are very very angry that they were not able to vote and were disenfranchised...most Bernie supporters...oh I wonder who will have the last laugh..you all are so laughing right now.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
9. That kind of arrogance is exactly what I am referring to
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:51 PM
May 2016

Of course you can blow therm off.

See how that works out in the long run.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
23. I didn't make it that.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:26 PM
May 2016

All I said was that Bernie's supporters will not get to control anything at the convention, because they are the minority. I said they shouldn't be discounted. Somehow, giving them a voice proportional to their numbers, seems to be unacceptable.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
13. she does not care
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:59 PM
May 2016

HRC and DWS and DNC have bought and paid for their people. They do not care about those not in their loop. She will win the WH. I am sure it is all rigged. But she will lose the party which will fracture because of the manipulation and control freak tactics. And it will be Bernie's fault, giggle. clinton has no self awareness. she only wants to be the first woman president.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
16. A few million voters less -- not half. But you're right that their views should be considered. n/t
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:01 PM
May 2016
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
21. I said MAY have won.....I know it's not over til its over
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:20 PM
May 2016

But gotta be realistic too....I'm concerned about the bigger picture no matter which one gets the nomination.

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
20. He should get input on the platform
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:15 PM
May 2016

and given a good speaking position. I think he's succeeded in bringing left-liberal ideas back into the mainstream. We all must remember in 2018 to primary conservative democrats and vote out Republicans for a more progressive congress. And yes, I believe we must GOTV in November for progressive goals to ulimately be met.

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