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Drop out now, Hillary, with honor. (Original Post) reddread May 2016 OP
What the heck? LOL Actor May 2016 #1
Lol....145 more delegates she is the nominee beachbumbob May 2016 #2
Get used to what? seekthetruth May 2016 #13
... CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #52
Wow. seekthetruth May 2016 #55
Good CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #58
.....and that's why you don't get it. seekthetruth May 2016 #60
I have 1 in college and 2 about to enter in the next 2 years Sheepshank May 2016 #86
I have two in college Demsrule86 May 2016 #94
Not in school. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #103
Less than 100 Demsrule86 May 2016 #93
I think it's done to 92...now we will see if sanders has any class or is beachbumbob May 2016 #96
IMHO I do believe he has already shown to be the latter n/t Sheepshank May 2016 #97
Bitter and spiteful Demsrule86 May 2016 #100
Hillary is leading by over 3 million votes Cali_Democrat May 2016 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #40
Because she's under a criminal investigation. Fawke Em May 2016 #61
Once again, Sanders has to beg the leader to drop out in order to win KingFlorez May 2016 #4
This is like Rubio begging everyone to drop out so he could win Txbluedog May 2016 #7
That ship sailed a long time ago. Jester Messiah May 2016 #5
The closer Secretary Clinton gets to clinching the nomination SFnomad May 2016 #6
... UMTerp01 May 2016 #8
You get a gold star for using a Tamar Braxton gif KingFlorez May 2016 #11
Sigh... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #9
+1 reddread May 2016 #15
If she drops out and still has the number of delegates required then releases those delegates to Thinkingabout May 2016 #10
Do you guys also believe in unicorns Demsrule86 May 2016 #95
Just explaining Sanders would not get Hillary's delegates if she Thinkingabout May 2016 #98
Oh sorry Demsrule86 May 2016 #99
I think the unicorns took the information though. Thinkingabout May 2016 #102
Honor? dana_b May 2016 #12
You want Biden to be the nominee Trenzalore May 2016 #14
Liz Warren is warming up for the veep spot as we speak big_dog May 2016 #17
If Elizabeth Warren accepts a veep under that criminal Hillary, I will lose Fawke Em May 2016 #63
That is a fantasy. I think even Biden has too much honor to do that. pdsimdars May 2016 #88
It would be for the good of the party One Black Sheep May 2016 #16
Wow, amazed at the ageism...the elderly and the retired voters count as much as anyone. plus lunamagica May 2016 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #41
Latinos and women have been breaking for Bernie recently. Fawke Em May 2016 #65
Not really... lunamagica May 2016 #101
One thing about we geezers... GulfCoast66 May 2016 #36
This election is her life. This is what she has been working for. She seems to be willing to rhett o rick May 2016 #18
Unfortunately I think you are correct. jwirr May 2016 #22
Sanders is the one who can't bring himself to condemn mob behavior and threats KittyWampus May 2016 #26
The mob behaviour is coming from the crooked DNC. bunchofpenguins May 2016 #29
Did Clinton condemn the shots fired at his headquarters? rhett o rick May 2016 #32
"mob behavior" reddread May 2016 #104
This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Colors May 2016 #80
I think she wants the power and wealth. Just my opinion. nm rhett o rick May 2016 #92
. baldguy May 2016 #19
DUrec PowerToThePeople May 2016 #20
So, Sanders is going... Skid Rogue May 2016 #21
Awwwww... SidDithers May 2016 #24
... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #25
Hillary has no honour. bunchofpenguins May 2016 #27
If you stopped caring months ago... GulfCoast66 May 2016 #37
The winner drops out? MFM008 May 2016 #28
No, the cheater should drop out. rhett o rick May 2016 #34
Do you mean the guy who had four campaign staffers pilfer data from the DNC? nt TexasTowelie May 2016 #38
Or the woman who risked our national security secrets to avoid FOIA requests? Fawke Em May 2016 #69
He would have to win CA by 50 points. Zynx May 2016 #30
Yes, Hillary ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #31
And she's *thiiiiiiiiiiis close* to taking freaking KENTUCKY despite the fact that electorate was Number23 May 2016 #39
Well, there must be some kind of fraud involved ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #44
The will of the people that weren't disenfranchised by the oligarchy that you've tied your wagon rhett o rick May 2016 #49
Is someone having a sad Tarc May 2016 #33
With people like you on BS side, it's no wonder he's losing. dubyadiprecession May 2016 #35
+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #82
'Democratic' party logic: Let's nominate a high-disapproval, FBI-subject candidate for POTUS. CobaltBlue May 2016 #42
The people elected her...If you don't like that, prevent them from voting!!! DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #62
LOL. I admire the spunk! But that's nuts. NT Adrahil May 2016 #43
Some of you must live in a parallel universe where Sanders has an actual chance to be the nominee. Beacool May 2016 #45
We are fighting on the side of the 99% and not surprised that you don't understand. rhett o rick May 2016 #50
Yes, you are the most righteous of people in this country and only YOU and BERNIE can save us. JTFrog May 2016 #64
We are fighting the corruption of Big Money Fat Cats domination of our Party. rhett o rick May 2016 #72
Why Would The Candidate With More Delegates & Millions More Votes Drop Out? Corey_Baker08 May 2016 #46
lol! wildeyed May 2016 #47
Hillary is helping ensure a Trump victory, please drop out, Hillary! amborin May 2016 #48
... MrWendel May 2016 #51
I think the FBI is going to take care of the problem. nt grasswire May 2016 #53
The math underthematrix May 2016 #54
Quitting is Noble. TomCADem May 2016 #56
I saw two different local (SF Bay Area) newscasts tonight that showed the Nevada chaos anotherproletariat May 2016 #57
Was watching KABC . It is one of the most watched ABC affiliates in the nation. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #59
Marin and Humboldt are Hillary's best bets, that and Hollywood reddread May 2016 #66
I am not being snarky but I think you believe that. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #68
it is pure wealth, and legalization threatens pure wealth reddread May 2016 #73
Los Angeles... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #76
apples and oranges. reddread May 2016 #77
Hillary will win the heterogeneous and densely populated areas of the state. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #79
she is HUUUGE with Latinos I know reddread May 2016 #81
But I want to vote for her JustAnotherGen May 2016 #67
And you should be able to. Just like my cousins in NJ who want to vote for Bernie. ViseGrip May 2016 #70
I guess I'm missing the hypocrisy part JustAnotherGen May 2016 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Colors May 2016 #84
Oh - I don't think I've participated in that at DU JustAnotherGen May 2016 #91
honor? Hiraeth May 2016 #71
Wha-wait-no, whut? Huh? NurseJackie May 2016 #75
Typical socialism. Want it given to them. Darb May 2016 #78
HRC wants Bernie to drop out, but she's the one guaranteeing a Trump presidency amborin May 2016 #83
She has never said she wants him to drop out. auntpurl May 2016 #85
Or before the FBI ruins your day. pdsimdars May 2016 #87
i can hear the music already reddread May 2016 #90
Nice. pdsimdars May 2016 #105
She has no honor n/t arcane1 May 2016 #89
 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
13. Get used to what?
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

More war? More income inequality? More greenhouse gases being leaked into the atmosphere? More infusion of money into our politics? More Wall Street cronyism?

No thanks.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
58. Good
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:58 AM
May 2016

I stopped taking Berners seriously months ago, when it became clear it was all about the free stuff.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
60. .....and that's why you don't get it.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:05 AM
May 2016

Do you go to school nowadays? Do you know just how expensive it is? The same old argument about wanting free stuff is akin to an old man yelling at kids to get off of his lawn.

You're assuming a whole hell of a lot.......

Regardless, I'd rather not have fracking in this country, or more war. With her, we will continue to fracking, and we're much more likely to go to war.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
86. I have 1 in college and 2 about to enter in the next 2 years
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:04 AM
May 2016

Last edited Wed May 18, 2016, 11:47 AM - Edit history (1)

I can't buy into the pipe dream that Bernie will able to accomplish anything towards fee tuition. He is not that accomplished and he lack Congressional and Senatorial support...always has, always will. And so your pretense that only people with a vested interest in free school are likely to understand Bernie's freebies, has now been debunked.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
94. I have two in college
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:43 AM
May 2016

can you imagine what Trump would do to college loans? It has been pretty good since Obama took them from the banks.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
103. Not in school.
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:31 PM
May 2016

But I can assure you if I were I wouldn't take out $300,000 in loans to get a degree that will get me a job that pays $40,000. As business decisions go, that's pretty moronic.We have a lot of problems with college costs in this country. We also have a lot of problems with discretion and wise, prudent decision making.

Now if you want to go into the hole 400 or 500k to become a doctor, or some other high income professional, that kind of money and the debt associated with it is probably a good investment given that the debt holder will likely earn many more times that over the course of a 30-40 year career.



Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
93. Less than 100
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:42 AM
May 2016

I hear...then the supers make their decision know as in 2008 and Bernie concedes and endorses...unless he wants to try to be Ralph Nader. He can't win and must know it.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
96. I think it's done to 92...now we will see if sanders has any class or is
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:45 AM
May 2016

Just an angry old socialist who offers nothing for moving our country forward except ranting rhetoric...

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
3. Hillary is leading by over 3 million votes
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:42 PM
May 2016

She's also leading in pledged delegates and states won.

Why should someone who is winning drop out?

Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #3)

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
61. Because she's under a criminal investigation.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:07 AM
May 2016

She shouldn't have run in the first place under those circumstances.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
4. Once again, Sanders has to beg the leader to drop out in order to win
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:43 PM
May 2016

That's like running a foot race and asking the leader to sit down in order to let you win, because it will make you feel good.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
6. The closer Secretary Clinton gets to clinching the nomination
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:44 PM
May 2016

the more delusional the BS cheerleaders become.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. If she drops out and still has the number of delegates required then releases those delegates to
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:48 PM
May 2016

someone else, then Sander will not be the nominee. There are over 150 SD's, the delegates will be split tonight and she will have more than enough delegates and someone else will be the nominee, its over for Sanders.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
98. Just explaining Sanders would not get Hillary's delegates if she
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:59 AM
May 2016

Drops out, ergo, he still needs 2383 delegates to get the nomination.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
14. You want Biden to be the nominee
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

Because her delegates and the Super Delegates are certainly not voting for Bernie.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
17. Liz Warren is warming up for the veep spot as we speak
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:54 PM
May 2016

with Biden as backup for POTUS, sorry Bernie great campaign but it was not to be this time.

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
16. It would be for the good of the party
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:53 PM
May 2016

Sanders is very capable of winning versus Trump, whereas Hillary is the Titanic...Plus, Sanders and the youth voters who love him represent the future, Hillary represents the past, she only does well with the elderly and the retired...

Finally, Sanders would change things radically, while Hillary will be like an Obama third term, but with much more wars and conflicts, she is war happy.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
23. Wow, amazed at the ageism...the elderly and the retired voters count as much as anyone. plus
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:29 PM
May 2016

She has the AA, Latinos, LBGT, women on her side..the Democratic base is with her

Response to lunamagica (Reply #23)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. This election is her life. This is what she has been working for. She seems to be willing to
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:57 PM
May 2016

do just about anything for this. Money ($150,000,000) and power.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
26. Sanders is the one who can't bring himself to condemn mob behavior and threats
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:36 PM
May 2016

from his supporters.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
32. Did Clinton condemn the shots fired at his headquarters?
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:39 PM
May 2016

Give us an example of mob behavior. Shouting at a convention when the bullies are stealing your votes? I think you'd condemn our founders as mob behavior.

We are fighting for freedom and liberty not bigger profits for Goldman-Sachs. Shame.

Response to rhett o rick (Reply #18)

 

bunchofpenguins

(47 posts)
27. Hillary has no honour.
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:36 PM
May 2016

The Democratic Party has already sold it's soul and now it's obvious that the establishment is happy with an unpopular candidate under federal investigation who will most likely go on to lose spectacularly in the general election and I stopped caring months ago.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
31. Yes, Hillary ...
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:37 PM
May 2016

Despite the fact that you are ahead by hundreds of delegates and millions of votes, you should ignore the will of the people and drop out - because Bernie is just like the coolest loser ever, and he should be handed the nomination he was unable to win on his own merits.

That makes sense - right?





Number23

(24,544 posts)
39. And she's *thiiiiiiiiiiis close* to taking freaking KENTUCKY despite the fact that electorate was
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:59 PM
May 2016

was tailor made for Sanders and he needed at least a 70% blowout to even pretend to stay viable.

He won't even get 50%, let alone 70%+.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
44. Well, there must be some kind of fraud involved ...
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:20 PM
May 2016

NO WAY Democrats didn't swoon upon hearing Bernie's "message".

Maybe he should wave that finger in the air with more authority, and shout a little louder - that'll get him the nomination for sure!



 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
49. The will of the people that weren't disenfranchised by the oligarchy that you've tied your wagon
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:05 AM
May 2016

to. You've chosen to side with the Wealthy 1% because you think they are the winners. While some are actually fighting against them to help those among us that are suffering. There are two sides to this class war and your Goldman-Sachs isn't on the side of the 2.5 million homeless children. Do you think that Goldman-Sachs' profits are more important? Sorry, that's rhetorical.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
50. We are fighting on the side of the 99% and not surprised that you don't understand.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:08 AM
May 2016

Some chose to side with the Big Money because they assume they will win. Maybe you will at the peril of the 16 million children living in poverty. Which I guess is just collateral damage for Goldman-Sachs to make bigger and bigger profits.

Mammon: The greedy pursuit of wealth.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
64. Yes, you are the most righteous of people in this country and only YOU and BERNIE can save us.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:08 AM
May 2016


You really think that people are gonna buy that at this point? Sorry, but your guy lost and all this demonizing of Hillary and her supporters just makes you guys look like what you've been all along. Sore losers.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
72. We are fighting the corruption of Big Money Fat Cats domination of our Party.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:34 AM
May 2016

I guess some like to side with them because they admire the Wealthy so much and some think the Wealthy will win and want to be on the winning side.

And Hillary brought her baggage with her. Pointing out that she betrayed her own party and acquiesced to the Republicons, the George Bush Republicons, isn't "demonizing". She blatantly lied to the Senate and American people.

You can name call us all you want, if that's your thing, but we aren't losing. Your Oligarchy may manipulate Hillary into the nomination, but we are a force that won't go away. Some may try to ignore the 2.5 million homeless children in their quest to get more profits for the Wealthy but sooner or later we will throw out the Oligarchy and reestablish democracy.

Some rationalize that Hillary's meager $12 per hour is good enough for the peons, that those in pain don't deserve medical marijuana, that shipping jobs overseas will make our corporation stronger and maybe, just maybe they will trickle on us. The 99% has been losing ground for decades while the Wealthy Fat Cats have been making bigger and bigger profits, and that will continue under a Clinton/Goldman-Sachs presidency.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
56. Quitting is Noble.
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:28 AM
May 2016

Between the Trump and Bernie double team, it is tough to see how Hillary is even competitive in California.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
57. I saw two different local (SF Bay Area) newscasts tonight that showed the Nevada chaos
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:33 AM
May 2016

caused by the Sanders supporters. You can't buy this kind of advertising!

(Yes, both mentioned that chairs were thrown.)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
59. Was watching KABC . It is one of the most watched ABC affiliates in the nation.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:04 AM
May 2016

They showed the mayhem Team Sanders caused in Nevada. Can't buy that kind of advertising.

CA is not Marin and Humboldt County.


Sanders.will.lose. here.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
66. Marin and Humboldt are Hillary's best bets, that and Hollywood
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:28 AM
May 2016

Those dope growers know the money in illegal pot is better than the reduced, taxed take of a legal crop.
And all that Hollywood money is probably where 50% or more of the .01 get theirs.

its the rest of the state that she has to worry about.
Latinos?
she cant.
Working people in some of the poorest parts of the state?
her billionaires cant.
win the state of California in 2016?

hahaha

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
68. I am not being snarky but I think you believe that.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:33 AM
May 2016

Humboldt and Marin will be two of Bernie's best counties.

It's like Vermont with a more temperate environment.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
73. it is pure wealth, and legalization threatens pure wealth
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:35 AM
May 2016

are you from California?
thats like the worst analysis imaginable.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
76. Los Angeles...
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:50 AM
May 2016

Marin and Humboldt County were two of Obama's best counties in 08:


http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=6&year=2008&f=0&off=0&elect=1


Obama did well in homogeneous CA counties in 08 and struggled in heterogeneous counties with high Latino populations. The latter are Hillary Clinton's bailiwick.

Los Angeles is more like New York City and Humboldt County and Marin County are more like Stowe.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
79. Hillary will win the heterogeneous and densely populated areas of the state.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:55 AM
May 2016

Hillary will win the heterogeneous and densely populated areas of the state. Bernie will win the homogeneous and sparsely populated areas of the state. That pattern has largely held, with a few exceptions, since Iowa.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
81. she is HUUUGE with Latinos I know
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:57 AM
May 2016

that whole farcical notion wont survive CA.
oh wait, Hispanics are white, right?
carry on, you may have a point.
good luck.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
70. And you should be able to. Just like my cousins in NJ who want to vote for Bernie.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:34 AM
May 2016

If the democratic party would shun hypocrisy, all of us would be far better off here.....

JustAnotherGen

(31,824 posts)
74. I guess I'm missing the hypocrisy part
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:47 AM
May 2016

I don't think supporters of either one of these candidates should be asking for one to drop out until the convention. As an early O'Malley supporter - I 'get' wanting ones candidate to stay in the race.

Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #74)

JustAnotherGen

(31,824 posts)
91. Oh - I don't think I've participated in that at DU
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:16 AM
May 2016

I've pretty much kept GDP on 'trash' - but someone brought this op to my attention. I was like - huh? Why? thanks!

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