2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI am much more concerned by the corruption in the party than I
am by rude, unruly Sanders supporters. The former is the real threat. And yeah, it's clear that things are being exaggerated for political expediency.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)stopping the GOP, then you are new at this.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)timmymoff
(1,947 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)timmymoff
(1,947 posts)your faux support for sanders has been exposed.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)know what is what.
WE are no longer discussing BoB who will facilitate Drumpf but what to do once your actions put him in the WH.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)You know it, I know it, and have seen other posters who know it. Stop the charade and come clean, you are the Fingers of the David Brock keyboard, masked as a Sanders supporter.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Sigh
Newcomers, you need me to educate you, I dont have time!
Jesus christ man, i am so liberal, so far left, you wouldnt know what to do with me!
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)as I've done. here's some HRC kool aid for you
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)on this and be embarrassed.
Admitting you are wrong is a sign of a mature, liberal adult.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)Nor am I likely to hang in here with Hillary supporters should she win the nomination. It's not my job to polish a turd, I realize it is still a turd.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)There are no certainties available on that note, I don't see him doing something that would structurally place upward pressure on wages like that but there is no telling what he actually even intends to do on any front much less what he actually can produce.
I'm sorry he simply cannot be taken at his word on any subject particularly in isolation.
At his core he is an egotist he is at the center of his universe at a level most cannot aspire to if for no other reason folks are busy and stressed and/or give a shit about somebody else enough to consider such as a possibility.
The next level up is opportunist and the one after that is bullshitter so as the onion layers out from that core yes you cannot help but to construct a nut house on that foundation. Trump is dangerous but to me it is way more about him than whatever position he finds advantageous in a given moment in space and time.
The problem is I can't believe people think they are offering a solution to said problems or addressing many other critical ones in response. I'd think folks were joking except these are serious times with what I think are glaring issues but clearly mileage varies drastically.
The sniper fire dodging hawk that goes on TV and says "we came, we saw, he died" is the solution?
That is preposterous to me, particularly since no few have been pushing full steam ahead since about the day after the election in 2012.
Total slow motion train wreck stuff here.
Sorry but not sorry on being absolutely dead set against supporting my party boiling down to the stands upright wing of the conservative party.
Fuck that, of course I will strive against it somebody has to or the entire gravity is thrown toward the radical regressives enforcing the dominance of stupid and failed conservative ideas long since proven not to work.
peace13
(11,076 posts)There was no democracy in that room in NE. Zero. If that is the good guys, it is too late for us!
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)If you want to stop the problem, encourage Hill to drop out before she gets booted out!
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)If you want to stop the problem, vow to vote for whoever the Dem is, otherwise you are DIRECTLY facilitating destruction.
davidlynch
(644 posts)There wasn't sufficient cost/return for taking that risk. The undemocratic moves were recorded and can be played over and over on Youtube. They probably didn't realize how Bernie supporters would react.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)And with unfavorables and untrust as high as hers, no one believes her side of the Nevada story, even while many in the corporate media are trying to push her side.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Depaysement
(1,835 posts)It seems to stand less and less for ordinary people and more and more for corporatists and identities.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)that I will not consider any winner legitimate at this point