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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:29 PM May 2016

MSNBC participates in the swiftboating of Sanders and his supporters

And now the strategy for HRC is revealed.

1. Paint Bernie as if he is just as unstable/dangerous as Trump.

2. Frame yourself (HRC) as the calm candidate.

THAT IS THE STRATEGIC REASON FOR THE SWIFTBOATING OF BERNIE in NEVADA and going forward.


She has apparently given up on party unity. She's trying to drive progressives out, and bring moderate Republicans in.

MSNBC is eating up the swiftboating as if it were a banana split, and Chris Matthews has particularly fallen for it and is catapulting the propaganda. Joy Reid, too.

Does Tweety twitter?

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MSNBC participates in the swiftboating of Sanders and his supporters (Original Post) grasswire May 2016 OP
don't watch MSM, we need to take that power away from them oldandhappy May 2016 #1
Was going to post the same. I'll just echo you. Fawke Em May 2016 #16
lol, gave up on establishment types like Matthews and his ilk a LONG time ago. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author oldandhappy May 2016 #1
MSNBC smearing and shilling for HRC all along, disgusting! amborin May 2016 #3
Bernie is not a team player... FarPoint May 2016 #29
or stating the facts MFM008 May 2016 #4
So you can't comment on Tweety's facebook page without it being... grasswire May 2016 #5
Wise of Tweety. Kepts it from vile comments. riversedge May 2016 #38
The ruling oligarchy plan to paint Bernie Sanders delegates before the National Convention B Calm May 2016 #6
Matthews is disgusting. panader0 May 2016 #7
yes grasswire May 2016 #8
What's telling is how people react, now that the chair thing has been debunked. winter is coming May 2016 #22
By reporting facts. That's always been Bernie's greatest weakness. YouDig May 2016 #9
What facts? Fawke Em May 2016 #17
Don't let the facts get in the way of a good bullshit story. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #30
Made-up facts, you mean. arcane1 May 2016 #41
MSHRC. They're with her. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #10
This has been over since Super Tuesday Trenzalore May 2016 #11
Money that could be going towards winning more congressional seats. Bernie is making it look like kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #14
He is not a democrat Trenzalore May 2016 #15
I've been a Democrat for 28 years. Fawke Em May 2016 #18
You lost a primary Trenzalore May 2016 #24
I agree! Silver_Witch May 2016 #32
Well then he shouldn't have run as a Democrat then. That would be an asshole thing to do..... kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #44
Yes, yes he does nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #12
MSNBC = Fox News for liberals Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #13
More like Fox News for fake liberals. Fawke Em May 2016 #20
Hillary is the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing... can't believe anyone is falling for this crap! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #33
Guess you never watch Morning Joe. They are all fully supporting Bernie. They hate Hillary. beaglelover May 2016 #19
They have been raving about Bernie Sanders on MSNBC this morning oberliner May 2016 #21
They're owned by Comcast -- an awful company that is hosting the Dem convention Armstead May 2016 #23
Good. They both deserve it. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #25
Same on CNN. The entire NV coverage is abt how "violent" Berners are and how Bernie didn't outright JudyM May 2016 #26
You must not have seen Morning Joe. nt Jitter65 May 2016 #27
No one is saying Bernie is unstable and dangerous. kstewart33 May 2016 #31
There are plenty on DU! Silver_Witch May 2016 #34
#29 did not say that Bernie is unstable and dangerous. kstewart33 May 2016 #37
If he were to be President, it would be 10 times more stressful than just running for Pres. kerry-is-my-prez May 2016 #45
Bernie did it to himself. Claiming everything is rigged, and 'apologizing' with excuses. Pathetic. CrowCityDem May 2016 #35
Sanders showed he was not a leader by the horrible way he handled NV yesterday. riversedge May 2016 #36
This is why I cut my cable cord and I save 100.00 a month! Got an HD antenna for all the free TV ViseGrip May 2016 #39
The Clinton campaign's STATED GOAL is to "disqualify" the Sanders campaign. arcane1 May 2016 #40
That's not the only definition of the term oberliner May 2016 #42
I really miss Jon Stewart. n/t winter is coming May 2016 #43
Could it possibly be true, which is why it hurts so much? nt eastwestdem May 2016 #46

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
28. lol, gave up on establishment types like Matthews and his ilk a LONG time ago.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:56 AM
May 2016

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

Response to grasswire (Original post)

MFM008

(19,814 posts)
4. or stating the facts
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:32 PM
May 2016

she needs 17% of all remaining delegates to get the nomination
and that is something Sanders supporters don't like .

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
6. The ruling oligarchy plan to paint Bernie Sanders delegates before the National Convention
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:44 PM
May 2016

seems to have the corporate media on their side!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
7. Matthews is disgusting.
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:01 PM
May 2016

He picked up on the chair thing, with zero proof.
Where are the arrests if there was so much violence?
As for the despicable tweets, why don't the police call back the phone numbers and arrest the callers?
The entire thing stinks. The actions of the Nevada State Democratic Party are not defensible.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
8. yes
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:04 PM
May 2016

How can we neutralize this? They are trying to box in Bernie and his supporters to be intimidated.

Did Weaver talk about filing suit against NV?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
22. What's telling is how people react, now that the chair thing has been debunked.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:04 AM
May 2016

I didn't have the stomach for CNN or MSNBC last night, but my guess is that when Wild-Eyed Debbie turned up to talk about those dangerous, violent, no good, very bad, chair-throwing Bernie supporters, no one gently told her that there was no evidence, none, than any chairs had been thrown.

Sometimes the media gets it wrong, and sometimes the media wants it wrong. Retractions are important. If they keep echoing the same narrative going forward, it will be blatantly obvious that this is an intentional smear job, not just shoddy reporting.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
11. This has been over since Super Tuesday
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:56 PM
May 2016

She has close to triple the delegate lead that Obama had at this point.

Bernie stoking his supporters into a frenzy to keep the money flowing is all we are seeing here.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
14. Money that could be going towards winning more congressional seats. Bernie is making it look like
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:54 PM
May 2016

an ego thing rather than making real change. Get some progressives into congress.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
18. I've been a Democrat for 28 years.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:02 AM
May 2016

I no longer give a shit about the party either. I'm not rich enough for them to care about me.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
32. I agree!
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:58 AM
May 2016

So many posts by HRC supported prove this premises. They sound more like conservatives everyday! And now HRC is courting republicans. Guess the party is dying.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
44. Well then he shouldn't have run as a Democrat then. That would be an asshole thing to do.....
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:39 PM
May 2016

He lied then, claiming he would be a part of the Democratic Party for this election.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
20. More like Fox News for fake liberals.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:02 AM
May 2016

I'm a liberal and I can't stand their Hillary ass kissing because she's not a liberal.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
33. Hillary is the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing... can't believe anyone is falling for this crap!
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:00 AM
May 2016

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. They have been raving about Bernie Sanders on MSNBC this morning
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:03 AM
May 2016

The Morning Joe group is presenting Sanders in a very positive light (especially Mika).

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
23. They're owned by Comcast -- an awful company that is hosting the Dem convention
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:06 AM
May 2016

There are also a lot of issues on the docket that will affect the Telecommunicaitons Industry.

Nuff said.

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
26. Same on CNN. The entire NV coverage is abt how "violent" Berners are and how Bernie didn't outright
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:54 AM
May 2016

condemn what they did.

DWS was interviewed and pressed that forcefully as well. I will say I didn't think Jeff Weaver gave a clear description of the vote/rules problems that caused the outrage, that would've been helpful to change the narrative.

This is Clinton's team's MO: divert the public from the election fraud, from the strength of Bernie's issues, from the gravity of her issues, etc. Win every news cycle by blasting the truth of the matter out of the water. Slap whitewash on her and mud on him. Because if the public saw the real issues there would be no contest.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
31. No one is saying Bernie is unstable and dangerous.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:58 AM
May 2016

He's frustrated and upset, and that's clear from his recent interviews and his demeanor.

But unstable and dangerous? Whoa, as a Hillary supporter, I haven't heard or read that from anyone for Hillary.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
34. There are plenty on DU!
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:02 AM
May 2016

See #29 above. The implication is clear. I could find more for you from just this morning, but I am off to work! I am sure you will see them if you look!

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
37. #29 did not say that Bernie is unstable and dangerous.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:06 AM
May 2016

Again, I haven't seen anyone actually saying that.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
39. This is why I cut my cable cord and I save 100.00 a month! Got an HD antenna for all the free TV
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:28 AM
May 2016

I can watch along with a ROKU and NETFlIX.

Thousands of channels.....my total bill is 8.64 a month, including taxes.

If you don't watch them, their numbers go down. Then their ads cannot be sold for so much, revenue drops. Pundits don't get paid as much, and many are let go, when this happens.

Hear that Rachel?

DON'T WATCH THEM. IT'S AN 'ADJUSTMENT', BUT NOT MAJOR. That, is how you fight back at corporate media. Don't watch, and they can't sell ads for as much money. JUST DO IT.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
40. The Clinton campaign's STATED GOAL is to "disqualify" the Sanders campaign.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:29 AM
May 2016

Not to defeat them in a fair election, but to make him ineligible to compete.

By definition, this cannot be done by honest means.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. That's not the only definition of the term
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:02 PM
May 2016

It also can mean to show that someone is not qualified, which is I think the intention in this case.

Obviously, he is eligible to compete.

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