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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton Was Liberal. Hillary Clinton Is Liberal. - Enten, Fivethirtyeight
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/hillary-clinton-was-liberal-hillary-clinton-is-liberal/A bunch of reporters have recently discovered a shocking truth: Hillary Clinton is liberal! (I heard a rumor that Columbo has been helping with the investigation.)
Weve gotten this raft of Clinton is liberal exposés as Clinton has revved up her 2016 campaign, speaking out in support of gay marriage, a pathway to citizenship for immigrants in the U.S. illegally, and criminal justice reform. But what many of these articles miss is that Clinton has always been, by most measures, pretty far to the left. When shes shifted positions, it has been in concert with the entire Democratic Party.
To see how these different issues fit together to form an overall political ideology, we usually use three metrics: one based on congressional voting record, one based on public statements and one based on fundraising.
Clinton was one of the most liberal members during her time in the Senate. According to an analysis of roll call votes by Voteview, Clintons record was more liberal than 70 percent of Democrats in her final term in the Senate. She was more liberal than 85 percent of all members. Her 2008 rival in the Democratic presidential primary, Barack Obama, was nearby with a record more liberal than 82 percent of all members he was not more liberal than Clinton.
Clinton also has a history of very liberal public statements. Clinton rates as a hard core liberal per the OnTheIssues.org scale. She is as liberal as Elizabeth Warren and barely more moderate than Bernie Sanders. And while Obama is also a hard core liberal, Clinton again was rated as more liberal than Obama.
Sometimes I wonder whether people are confusing Clinton with her husband. Bill Clintons statements have been far more moderate. He has also had a more moderate donor base, according to Adam Bonicas fundraising scores.
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[font size="+1"]"Sometimes I wonder whether people are confusing Clinton with her husband."???
He obviously hasn't been paying attention to Bernie's surrogates*. On this site, to listen to Bernie Groupies and Repugnants 'for' Bernie, Bill and Hillary are virtually ONE PERSON!!.! When Bill was president, he'd be interested to know, he was under the control of Hillary!!! Really, Uh-Huh! [/font]
* In fairness, this was written in May 2015
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Hillary Clinton Was Liberal. Hillary Clinton Is Liberal. - Enten, Fivethirtyeight (Original Post)
Bill USA
May 2016
OP
A vote for war should not be weighted the same as a vote for what to name a Post Office
AgerolanAmerican
May 2016
#5
Like typical Republicans, her opponents want to blame her for Bill's sins but not credit her
Maru Kitteh
May 2016
#6
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)1. Not all votes are equal
Where the rubber meets the road, Hillary is a neocon.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)2. +1. Yep.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)3. Then so is Mr. Bernie "F-35, overthrow Saddam, guns for all" Sanders.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)7. la la la la la la la la la la la la
I'm sorry, you were saying something? I couldn't hear you over the singing around here. Wonder why they all have their fingers in their ears. Weird.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)4. Hillary Clinton Was the 11th Most Liberal Member of the Senate - Daily KOS
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)5. A vote for war should not be weighted the same as a vote for what to name a Post Office
Also, you may not have noticed but by that measure, Sanders blows everyone else - even the #2 ranked Senator - out of the water. It's not even close.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)6. Like typical Republicans, her opponents want to blame her for Bill's sins but not credit her
for anything favorable. Ever, really. Before, during or after Bill.