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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:46 PM May 2016

Hillary Clinton Was Liberal. Hillary Clinton Is Liberal. - Enten, Fivethirtyeight

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/hillary-clinton-was-liberal-hillary-clinton-is-liberal/

A bunch of reporters have recently discovered a shocking truth: Hillary Clinton is liberal! (I heard a rumor that Columbo has been helping with the investigation.)

We’ve gotten this raft of “Clinton is liberal” exposés as Clinton has revved up her 2016 campaign, speaking out in support of gay marriage, a pathway to citizenship for immigrants in the U.S. illegally, and criminal justice reform. But what many of these articles miss is that Clinton has always been, by most measures, pretty far to the left. When she’s shifted positions, it has been in concert with the entire Democratic Party.

To see how these different issues fit together to form an overall political ideology, we usually use three metrics: one based on congressional voting record, one based on public statements and one based on fundraising.

Clinton was one of the most liberal members during her time in the Senate. According to an analysis of roll call votes by Voteview, Clinton’s record was more liberal than 70 percent of Democrats in her final term in the Senate. She was more liberal than 85 percent of all members. Her 2008 rival in the Democratic presidential primary, Barack Obama, was nearby with a record more liberal than 82 percent of all members — he was not more liberal than Clinton.

Clinton also has a history of very liberal public statements. Clinton rates as a “hard core liberal” per the OnTheIssues.org scale. She is as liberal as Elizabeth Warren and barely more moderate than Bernie Sanders. And while Obama is also a “hard core liberal,” Clinton again was rated as more liberal than Obama.

Sometimes I wonder whether people are confusing Clinton with her husband. Bill Clinton’s statements have been far more moderate. He has also had a more moderate donor base, according to Adam Bonica’s fundraising scores.
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[font size="+1"]"Sometimes I wonder whether people are confusing Clinton with her husband."???


He obviously hasn't been paying attention to Bernie's surrogates*. On this site, to listen to Bernie Groupies and Repugnants 'for' Bernie, Bill and Hillary are virtually ONE PERSON!!.! When Bill was president, he'd be interested to know, he was under the control of Hillary!!! Really, Uh-Huh! [/font]


* In fairness, this was written in May 2015
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Hillary Clinton Was Liberal. Hillary Clinton Is Liberal. - Enten, Fivethirtyeight (Original Post) Bill USA May 2016 OP
Not all votes are equal AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #1
+1. Yep. GoneFishin May 2016 #2
Then so is Mr. Bernie "F-35, overthrow Saddam, guns for all" Sanders. CrowCityDem May 2016 #3
la la la la la la la la la la la la Maru Kitteh May 2016 #7
Hillary Clinton Was the 11th Most Liberal Member of the Senate - Daily KOS Bill USA May 2016 #4
A vote for war should not be weighted the same as a vote for what to name a Post Office AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #5
Like typical Republicans, her opponents want to blame her for Bill's sins but not credit her Maru Kitteh May 2016 #6

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
7. la la la la la la la la la la la la
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:06 PM
May 2016

I'm sorry, you were saying something? I couldn't hear you over the singing around here. Wonder why they all have their fingers in their ears. Weird.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
5. A vote for war should not be weighted the same as a vote for what to name a Post Office
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:34 PM
May 2016

Also, you may not have noticed but by that measure, Sanders blows everyone else - even the #2 ranked Senator - out of the water. It's not even close.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
6. Like typical Republicans, her opponents want to blame her for Bill's sins but not credit her
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:22 PM
May 2016

for anything favorable. Ever, really. Before, during or after Bill.

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