2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDems' New Fear: Sanders Revolt Could Upend Democratic Convention
(CNN)Sen. Barbara Boxer, a veteran of Democratic politics, says she never saw anything quite like this before.
Loud cursing, shouting, obscene gestures and vile insults, including crude comments about the female anatomy. It was all on display over the weekend as supporters of Bernie Sanders turned the Nevada State Democratic Convention into chaos.
"I was not able to stop these people for doing what they did," Boxer, a Hillary Clinton supporter, told CNN. "Apparently they've done it before. .... This group of about 100 were very vocal, and I can't describe it -- disrespectful doesn't even explain it, it was worse than that."
Boxer is hardly the lone Clinton supporter to experience such harassment on the campaign trail. Several top Democrats told CNN publicly and privately that the energy and enthusiasm of Sanders supporters has at times descended into incendiary attacks that threaten to tear apart efforts to unite Democrats against Donald Trump. Several female senators told CNN the attacks have been misogynistic.
What's more, many Democrats fear that if Sanders does not rein in his supporters, the same ugly scene that occurred in Las Vegas last weekend could replicate itself in the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia.
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hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)Hillary is Hubert Humphrey and Sanders Eugene Mc Carthy.
Or is Hillary LBJ?
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)Sanders has been demolishing Trump since January, but what is more important, he is doing so NOW. Now is when match-up polls become more reliable indicators of what will happen later in the year. He continues to beat Trump by TWICE the margin that Clinton does, and she even loses to Trump in one recent match-up poll (Rasmussen).
Clinton is the one at risk of losing to Trump, not Sanders.
What is more, she not only has negatives that are nearly as bad as Trump's, her campaign seems to be going out of their way to alienate independent voters (now 40+% of the electorate), young voters (the future of the Democratic Party), and newly registered Democrats.
You gotta wonder what the hell she's doing. She's no sure bet against Trump--in fact, she could easily lose--and yet she is alienating the very voting groups that she needs to beat him. She 'wins' (IF she does--California voter here!) in a process highly rigged in her favor, among barely over half the Democratic Party--a perilously small demographic, indeed--then puts on a show of unfairness, in NV, that rivals the old, corrupt days of Tammany Hall--meanwhile cozying up to Bush donors, as if to rub it in our faces, that us old Democrats and the new young Democrats and the previously alienated indies who support Sanders can go to hell for all she cares. WHO does she expect to vote for her in November? It's got me puzzled. It really does.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)and when Trump runs ads explaining how Sanders will be raising everyone's taxes through the roof.
Then Sanders will be losing by 20 points.
forjusticethunders
(1,151 posts)This isn't 1972, 1980 (which was stolen from Carter anyway and 1980 was much worse to be a Dem than today) or even 2004. Dems have too strong of an EC firewall, there are too many more voting POC (remember, Bernie doesn't have bad favorables among Dems, though that might change with the Nevada shenanigans, most Hillary voters like Bernie, just not as much as Hillary, so it's not like Bernie would depress turnout among the POC who support Hillary, and if Bernie is winning the primary then he's not getting blown out with POC to begin with), Bernie cuts directly into Trump's base (and turning out disaffected white working stiffs in record numbers is the ONLY way Trump can win) though he wouldn't pull in moderate and non-nativist Republicans (those are the people who "socialism" is a dealbreaker for) who are the core of #NeverTrump.
Electability is the LEAST of Bernie's issues. The problem is that Sanders has too many flaws as a leftist candidate to get to the GE, not that a leftist candidate can't win THIS particular general election. I'm pretty sure that if Hillary said "Yes, I do consider myself a socialist" today, then her polling wouldn't move an inch (especially since her negatives are already baked in)
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)as Bill Clinton chumming around with George Wallace IOW none at all
JPnoodleman
(454 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Except in the past, everyone was so well behaved.
They seem to miss the point that we're in an emergency. And if anyone asks what emergency I'm talking about, they are the problem.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)kiva
(4,373 posts)What a shock.
JudyM
(29,250 posts)flames?
MineralMan
(146,313 posts)She is a very, very prominent Democratic elected official, who has promoted progressive measures throughout her long career. Why would she not be invited?
Your question make no sense at all. Maybe you're not familiar with Senator Boxer.
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leveymg
(36,418 posts)There seems to a lot of poking, prodding and egging on of Sanders supporters to rebel. No real effort by HRC's campaign to try to mend fences. If there is an ugly split in Philly, she brought it on herself. Hopefully, she will have dropped out by then.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)the Clinton News Network is at it again with FUD
Where are Boxer, Feinstein and Reid on election integrity? Where they're to be found at all they're on the wrong side of it.
procon
(15,805 posts)The average American voter makes no such distinction, neither do the Republicans, ballots, polls, or the media. Like it, or not, you're just another Democrat, you are the face of the party because you're the headline news today. Woohoo!
You got your 15 minutes of fame, but at what price? What's beginning to gel in all the negative press Bernie is getting -- what, did you expect the blowback was going to jump on Hillary instead? -- is going to drag Bernie down first, and then its going to go straight into the GOP playbook to target other Democratic candidates up, and in down ballot races. You lot must be so proud in crafting Bernie's legacy.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)And that "reporting."
Could CNN possibly be any more deeply embedded in Camp Weathervane?
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)after bullshit was called, the flying chairs have now disappeared and reincarnated as the filthiest language ever heard. In other words every story including the word "violence" was a deliberate filthy lie by the DNC and the HRC campaign.
Golly gee-I wonder if the vile language story is true?