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CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:24 PM May 2016

Bernie's Statement On Nevada

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/statement-nevada/

Absolutely disgusting. Rather than condemn the abusive actions of his 'fans', Bernie uses this as another excuse to bully the Democratic party into changing their rules to placate him. His lack of leadership is pitiful, and this is another example of why Bernie is not cut out for the Presidency.

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Bernie's Statement On Nevada (Original Post) CrowCityDem May 2016 OP
Bernie has no dignity left. nt LexVegas May 2016 #1
That would be HRC supporters. dchill May 2016 #9
Worst campaign in US history. JaneyVee May 2016 #2
And yet you support her anyway. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #6
I see what you did there. dchill May 2016 #12
Act like a 12 yr old? JaneyVee May 2016 #17
Aww, somebody's cranky! n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #24
Probably the ones whose candidate isnt winning the primary. JaneyVee May 2016 #28
That's at least 20 year old level. dchill May 2016 #26
There are no excuses for the behavior that occured KingFlorez May 2016 #3
The HRC campaign orchestrated this and you know it! notadmblnd May 2016 #13
Where is your evidence of that? You don't have any KingFlorez May 2016 #27
The very same place that your evidence is. notadmblnd May 2016 #44
lolz obamanut2012 May 2016 #40
Sanders needs to take Jane and GO HOME !!! JanetLovesObama May 2016 #4
Corrupt hill and corrupt sleazy Bill are stomach turning cali May 2016 #16
Will you thank them if she wins? JaneyVee May 2016 #22
Hillary needs to take Bill and go home !!! dchill May 2016 #20
Your concern is as false as your motives are transparent. arcane1 May 2016 #5
From the statement cali May 2016 #7
Yeah, how dare he not rise to this provocation!? Jester Messiah May 2016 #8
He Ain't NO DEM,Period. Grassy Knoll May 2016 #10
He's destroying his reputation leftynyc May 2016 #11
It makes me more determined not 840high May 2016 #21
Knock yourself out leftynyc May 2016 #29
Why would that ? This is 840high May 2016 #55
many seems to have this wiierd belief Bodhi BloodWave May 2016 #57
Yep. My plan is 840high May 2016 #59
But you won't be able to trash leftynyc May 2016 #60
So you want silence? We even 840high May 2016 #62
what a shocker obamanut2012 May 2016 #41
Pardon me, but it was the Clinton campaign that said notadmblnd May 2016 #25
Congratuations leftynyc May 2016 #30
They also specifically said they would attempt to "discredit" Sanders support. arcane1 May 2016 #31
Yep, and you know it is true that they are behind the chaos notadmblnd May 2016 #35
Right here in this thread, even. arcane1 May 2016 #37
Right on, Bernie! So glad he put this statement out - thanks for posting this! DebDoo May 2016 #14
Considering half the Credentials Committee were Sanders supporters including the co-chair hack89 May 2016 #15
I thought it was spot on. Sky Masterson May 2016 #18
I think he didn't write that release. In fact, MineralMan May 2016 #19
I hope he has lost control of his campaign obamanut2012 May 2016 #42
Wow, he's totally lost his mind. This reads like a parody. YouDig May 2016 #23
For a moment there I was worried you didn't get the memo. arcane1 May 2016 #34
The Sanders campaign train has flown off the rails into the ocean NuclearDem May 2016 #32
The SDs must be ready to flock to him in droves nt firebrand80 May 2016 #33
It's over for Bernie ... he knows it. It's OVER! NurseJackie May 2016 #36
I cannot believe how tone deaf that statement is obamanut2012 May 2016 #38
A profoundly disappointing and oddly belated response. madamesilverspurs May 2016 #39
"But" ... he said "but" ??!! So he's offering EXCUSES and JUSTIFICATION? That's ... NurseJackie May 2016 #47
Bravo Bernie!!! disillusioned73 May 2016 #43
Ugh. Well, he's lost this anyway, but running out the clock poorly is sad and icky. Starry Messenger May 2016 #45
Bravo Bernie! NWCorona May 2016 #46
So let me get this straight nini May 2016 #48
A thousand posts since March 30th ???? cliffordu May 2016 #49
WTF - did anybody here actually READ the statement? lagomorph777 May 2016 #50
One line, buried in the middle of several paragraphs of whining. CrowCityDem May 2016 #52
Oops sorry - I see this is a Hillary thread lagomorph777 May 2016 #53
It was a good statement. n/t winter is coming May 2016 #54
He has lost the nomination, MoonRiver May 2016 #51
Good for him! Standing up the bullies! basselope May 2016 #56
This is NO leader. He cannot control the "guerillas" that he has enflamed. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #58
And there are counter-arguments about how fair the process was. NO EXCUSES! RBInMaine May 2016 #61

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
3. There are no excuses for the behavior that occured
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:26 PM
May 2016

And when you factor in that his campaign orchestrated the mess, it makes his statement even more pathetic.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
13. The HRC campaign orchestrated this and you know it!
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:29 PM
May 2016

HRC campaign is the one that leaked that Sander's must be destroyed at all costs.



KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
27. Where is your evidence of that? You don't have any
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:32 PM
May 2016

Sanders' campaign got into this mess and now it is backfiring.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
5. Your concern is as false as your motives are transparent.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:27 PM
May 2016

But at least you got in before April. It doesn't grant you credibility, but you might fool some fools.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
7. From the statement
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:27 PM
May 2016

The chair of the convention announced that the convention rules passed on voice vote, when the vote was a clear no-vote. At the very least, the Chair should have allowed for a headcount.

The chair allowed its Credentials Committee to en mass rule that 64 delegates were ineligible without offering an opportunity for 58 of them to be heard. That decision enabled the Clinton campaign to end up with a 30-vote majority.
The chair refused to acknowledge any motions made from the floor or allow votes on them.

The chair refused to accept any petitions for amendments to the rules that were properly submitted.

“These are on top of failures at the precinct and county conventions including trying to depose and then threaten with arrest the Clark County convention credentials chair because she was operating too fairly.”

Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
57. many seems to have this wiierd belief
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:13 PM
May 2016

that if you don't support hillary you won't be able to stay here

while all thats required to stay around is to keep quiet about some aspects of the election, aka not rocking the leaky and very unstable boat that seems likely to be used in the general

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
25. Pardon me, but it was the Clinton campaign that said
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:31 PM
May 2016

they were going to do the destroying. We know what's going on.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
30. Congratuations
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:33 PM
May 2016

his supporters are the ones destroying his campaign - and he's allowing it to happen.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
31. They also specifically said they would attempt to "discredit" Sanders support.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:33 PM
May 2016

Here we see the fruits of that undemocratic motive.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
37. Right here in this thread, even.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:35 PM
May 2016

It's obvious who is posting their own actual thoughts, and who is following instructions on what to post.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
15. Considering half the Credentials Committee were Sanders supporters including the co-chair
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:29 PM
May 2016

his outrage over the 58 delegates is disingenuous to say the least.

Sky Masterson

(5,240 posts)
18. I thought it was spot on.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:30 PM
May 2016

The chair of the convention announced that the convention rules passed on voice vote, when the vote was a clear no-vote.
At the very least, the Chair should have allowed for a headcount.
The chair allowed its Credentials Committee to en mass rule that 64 delegates were ineligible without offering an opportunity for 58 of them to be heard. That decision enabled the Clinton campaign to end up with a 30-vote majority.
The chair refused to acknowledge any motions made from the floor or allow votes on them.
The chair refused to accept any petitions for amendments to the rules that were properly submitted.

MineralMan

(146,309 posts)
19. I think he didn't write that release. In fact,
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:30 PM
May 2016

I think Bernie Sanders has completely lost control of his campaign. I further think that there is only one action to take: He should withdraw from the campaign and admit that he cannot win the nomination.

Tomorrow morning would be a good time to do that. I doubt it will happen, though. He'll have to lose at the convention, which will happen on the first ballot. He will not be the Democratic nominee. There is no way that will happen.

Say goodnight, Bernie.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
32. The Sanders campaign train has flown off the rails into the ocean
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:33 PM
May 2016

where it's jumped a shark into a refrigerator just in time to escape a nuclear blast.

This is absolutely pathetic.

madamesilverspurs

(15,804 posts)
39. A profoundly disappointing and oddly belated response.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:37 PM
May 2016

"Our campaign of course believes in non-violent change and it goes without saying that I condemn any and all forms of violence, including the personal harassment of individuals. But . . ."

At best, his condemnation of violence is rendered insincere by his immediate pivot to providing excuses for any continuation of it.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
47. "But" ... he said "but" ??!! So he's offering EXCUSES and JUSTIFICATION? That's ...
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:58 PM
May 2016

... beneath contempt.

This campaign is clearly in its final death throes. They're struggling against all odds to stay alive. They're in panic mode, and not thinking too clearly.

(Alerter: These are my personal observations and my personal opinions.)

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
43. Bravo Bernie!!!
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:41 PM
May 2016


Bernie will not yield to the TPTB, neither will I... corporate owned politicians take note..

nini

(16,672 posts)
48. So let me get this straight
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016

The Party is to let in people who were not part of the Party previously. Then those people can demand and get rules changed during the process even thought the rules were hashed out previously and worked before with actual party members. If they do not get those rules changed they can attack the organization they were not previously part of from within.

It's like playing with a bunch of kids who change the game rules to fit their winning.

Go start your own damn party and leave the rest of alone. IF you really have the majority of people on your side you shouldn't have a problem doing that.

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
49. A thousand posts since March 30th ????
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:17 PM
May 2016

You must be full time.

Nice to find work where you can.

All the best!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
50. WTF - did anybody here actually READ the statement?
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016
"Our campaign of course believes in non-violent change and it goes without saying that I condemn any and all forms of violence, including the personal harassment of individuals."

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
51. He has lost the nomination,
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

and is on path to relinquish any influence he might have had shaping the Democratic platform. He richly deserves what he gets. This is NO statesman.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
58. This is NO leader. He cannot control the "guerillas" that he has enflamed.
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:20 PM
May 2016

He has lost all credibility as a "leader" of his much vaunted "revolution".

Pfffft! Leader? My tush.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
61. And there are counter-arguments about how fair the process was. NO EXCUSES!
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:34 AM
May 2016

NO EXCUSES for these sickening THREATS made to the party chair in NV nor heckling and shouting when Barbara Boxer and others spoke, etc.

In Maine, yes, Bernie folks won that caucus and were treated MORE than fairly, and yet they still heckled Barney Frank (a VERY progressive man) and shouted other very rude comments when others tried to speak on issues.

This is SOME Sanders supporters, not all. But it is SHIT behavior right up there with Trump supporters. And it needs to STOP!

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