PPP AZ: Trump 40, Hillary 38

[firebrand80]

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_AZ_51716.pdf

[libdem4life]

1. Beginning to think this is "Snatching defeat from the jaws of Victory."

It's hard to watch this and stay neutral, even while supporting a candidate.

[firebrand80]

3. You think this poll is bad for Hillary? nt

[libdem4life]

6. I think the Bernie vs. Trump matchup is victory. This one, not so much.

[leftynyc]

5. You think a Democrat

polling within the margin of error of a con is BAD news in Arizona? How new are you to politics? Let' see, the last time AZ voted for a Dem was 1996 (Bill Clinton), the time before that, 1948.

[libdem4life]

7. See Post #6 And nationally it's double digits.

[leftynyc]

8. Bernie is NOT going to be the nominee

and neither Hillary or donnie has laid a glove on him - he's thoroughly unvetted so his poll numbers for the general are completely meaningless. You are free to believe whatever fantasy you wish.

[libdem4life]

9. See my first post. And "completely unvetted" is becoming a tiresome mantra.

I do believe they have some dirt on Jane, and some votes in the Senate Dems don't like and regardless of the gun controversy, apparently the NRA shills for him giving him a D-...it's all pretty much come out.

Brock attacks are not vetting. Just pure smear and that wasn't part of the conversation.

[leftynyc]

10. Yawn

Like I've said before, you're free to believe whatever fantasy you wish.

[libdem4life]

14. Seems like both sides have their fantasy...some deal with the FBI, et al.

[libdem4life]

11. My first vote was for McGovern, at age 21.

Kind of like Hillary, I was raised by Republicans and was a Nixon Girl until I went to, imagine, Nixon's Whittier, California alma mater and converted to a Liberal Democrat and never looked back. We hung him in effigy. He was not popular there, either.

You asked. I embellished a bit.

[leftynyc]

12. Then how can you possibly

think a Democrat polling within the margin of error is a bad thing in Arizona? You should know better than to spread bullshit like that.

[libdem4life]

15. There is another Democrat polling much better. We should not be

within the MOE. There or nationally. I'm cringing already at the likely matchup after the Primary.

[leftynyc]

16. If Bernie had been properly

vetted, I would agree with you. Meanwhile, neither Hillary or donnie has laid a glove on him. The shitstorm that would occur would mean a 49 state loss like the McGovern race - and for the exact same reason.

[libdem4life]

17. Guess we'll never know. But I tend to think...and support...his staying in at

some level just in case the "other factors" end up badly for her.

Also, I don't think Biden or some other Establishment Dem could come in...too many Bernie supporters. Biden doesn't want it. Elizabeth Warren's family put the nix on it way back when because a family gets dragged through it, as well. (read that early on)

Going to be interesting. Thanks for your comments.

[leftynyc]

18. I've always maintained

he should stay in until the primaries were over. I've never said different. But after that, he's only hurting Hillary AND the party. Since he used the party to further his own career, I think he owes it to them to try his best not to do that.

[libdem4life]

21. There we agree. But if the Party had produced a liberal candidate,

to challenge HRC, he wouldn't have wanted to run. They got Coronation Fever, IMO. His candidacy was created inside that vacuum.

[TexasTowelie]

2. Definitely a positive sign for Clinton

if she can pick up a red state like Arizona.

[Grassy Knoll]

4. John McCain Warned She Would Turn AZ Blue....

HILL YES!!!!

[auntpurl]

19. Wonder if this puts Texas in play...

Bring on Julian Castro?

[Grassy Knoll]

20. Ha, Klenex And Excedrin Would Quadruple In Sales.

[auntpurl]

22. I know, the Repubs would have SUCH a sad to lose Texas

Their delicious, salty tears.

[Jude the Obscure]

13. I'm sure there was Bernie's number vs Trump and blows away Trump like a bad habit.

I think I will take Bernie, thanks.