Markos Moulitsas: Bernie or Trump supporters? It shouldn't be this hard to tell them apart

[Cali_Democrat]

Tuesday May 17, 2016


Bernie Sanders lost the delegate battle at the Nevada State Democratic convention this past weekend, which only makes sense since he lost the state when voters voted. However, that didn’t stop one of the biggest explosions of outright crazy in Democratic politics in … forever. Armando debunked the insane conspiracy theories here and here, but of course that’s not stopping what can now only be described as crazies from outright crossing the line, viciously harassing State Democratic Party Chair Roberta Lange. Here’s a sample:

MALE CALLER: Hi, Berta Lange. This is a citizen of the United States of America, and I just wanted to let you know that I think people like you should be hung in a public execution to show this world that we won't stand for this sort of corruption. I don't know what kind of money they're paying for you, but I don't know how you sleep at night. You are a sick, twisted piece of shit, and I hope you'll burn for this. And you can return my call at [phone]. I'd love to go into further detail with you about this, though I am sure you don't have the courage to do so, you cowardless bitch, running off the stage. I hope people find you.

MALE CALLER: You fucking stupid bitch! What the hell are you doing? You’re a fucking corrupt bitch! That is so fucking wrong. You should be ashamed and disgraced. You need to step down from that position because you are bad for America and bad for the Democratic Party. That was fucking bullshit today. You need to step down. You’re a disgrace

MALE CALLER: Oh Roberta, Roberta, Roberta, you old, old hag. Oh, we watched the whole thing in Nevada. You’re really kinda screwed, lady. Um, yeah. Really stupid. Fuck you.

MALE CALLER: Fuck you, bitch

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And what’s the Sanders campaign doing to tamp down this insanity? About as much as Trump did to tamp down the violence at his rallies.

Alex Seitz-Wald ✔ ?@aseitzwald
New: When asked about Nevada Dem convention today, Bernie Sanders walked away mid-Q, @DannyEFreeman reports.
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This is no longer a presidential campaign. I don’t know what it is, but that moment has passed.

Read more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/17/1527444/-Bernie-or-Trump-supporters-It-shouldn-t-be-this-hard-to-tell-them-apart

[CrowCityDem]

1. The more people get to know Bernie, the more they like him. Yeah, suuuuure they do.

[msanthrope]

2. We are watching an implosion. nt

[azurnoir]

3. Markos "my ego trumps all" Moulitsas I'm impressed really I am but he's late to the show

parroting RalstonReports

[bahrbearian]

5. I wonder how much Brock is paying those two.

[CreekDog]

11. Show us the proof that they are being paid by Brock

You seem to put everyone who dares criticize Bernie or support Hillary on Brock's payroll.

Since you seem to think everyone on the other side does it for money, does that mean that you're saying what you're saying for money?

[bahrbearian]

15. There was lots of cameras there. Show us the video.

[CreekDog]

18. You made the accusation and you now admit you have nothing to prove it

Do your own damn work. If you can't prove an accusation, don't make one.

[Dem2]

19. Logical Fallacy

Prove that Brock is in any way involved or apologize for slandering people.

[leftynyc]

13. How tiresome

Everyone who disagrees with you and your candidate is getting paid? I'm sure you find that lie comforting but it's still a lie. Brock ain't that rich.

[bahrbearian]

14. Show us the Video then.

[leftynyc]

16. LOL

Right after you show me brock's checkbook that shows a slew of checks to people posting on DU. I don't have to show you shit. My candidate is winning.

[leftynyc]

17. How about this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511981702

Not what you asked for but still extremely telling. "change the rules" INDEED.

[Skwmom]

4. Markos Moulitsas: Never thought they might be part of political dirty trick? Of course you did but

you need your $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[JRLeft]

6. Markos is a liar and a corporatist Democrat who pretends to be progressive.

[Demsrule86]

22. No one pure enough for your sort...

I guess Bernie worship is the Criteria.

[JackRiddler]

30. Also a former CIA intern who thinks they do good work.

As a personality he is generally a self-righteous, big swinging dick.

[Skwmom]

7. Wow. With the sexist language I would think Camp Clinton wrote the scripts.

[CreekDog]

12. So which is it? You're saying that she helped Clinton and Clinton's folks called her names after?

Does the right side of your brain know what the left side of your brain is thinking?

[Skwmom]

20. It's a political dog and pony show.

[ThePhilosopher04]

8. I find it much harder to tell Clinton and Bush Republican supporters apart.

[QC]

9. I was thinking the same.

Never imagined I would see Democrats referring to health care and education as "free stuff" or the head of the Democratic Party going to bat for the payday loan usurers, but there you have it.

[Demsrule86]

24. I never thought to hear

so called Dems calling women sluts, whores, bitches...and I've been told yes even the C word...and threatening kids to...shame on you Bernie Sanders for not exercising leadership and stopping this . Your campaign started this shit storm...so now do the right thing...oh and while you are at it concede.

[ThePhilosopher04]

25. None of that happened. Not from Bernie supporters.

[Demsrule86]

32. It did happen

Why do you suppose the hotel tossed the lot out and brought in armed cops?

[QC]

27. I never imagined I would see people here cracking jokes

about a man assaulting a woman, but if life has taught me anything, it's never say never.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511966599#post28

[Demsrule86]

31. And you think that is equivalent

to calling Barbara Boxer a bitch and worse?

[Demsrule86]

23. Oh no

Trump loooooves him some Bernie...so much in common and all.

[Sky Masterson]

10. So this is the direction the campaign is going now.

Berniebros are all misogynistic frat boys who toss out sexist crap at half the rate they tossed out Delegates to keep Hillary's lead intact.
You know, they didn't have to run the thing like a jack-booted coronation.
She did not in the least way encourage debate or discussion, she just made up a few rules and enacted them without a clear majority of support for them.
These things are supposed to encourage democracy but instead we got Katherine Harris v2.0
Clearly she is a Clinton supporter and NOT Fair and Balanced.
She made people angry.
And all of this crap that she pulled was only for a few delegates that Clinton really could have afforded to lose.
This action HURT the democratic party.
It damaged the thought of "Unity" with these voters.
Was it wrong to curse at her as some did? Of course.
I'll tell you what, I would have cursed her if I were there, but I would have used gender neutral curse words like "You bleeping undemocratic @sshole" .
Regarding the videos I saw I think that would have been a fair label to pin on her.

[LexVegas]

21. Spot on. nt

[winter is coming]

26. I'm not sure Markos is the best authority

when it comes to recognizing the difference between Democrats and Republicans.

[TheKentuckian]

28. I can't distinguish the Clinton gang from the Bush League so I don't give a crap what Markos says

[baldguy]

29. But, there's no sexism among Sanders supporters. Oh, no!