The new vetting of Bill Clinton.

[cali]

Forget his diamond encrusted parachute.

Jane Sanders. Bill Clinton. Goose. Gander.


Recently disclosed flight logs show Bill flew aboard the infamous jet with his very close pal, the infamous Jeffrey Epstein.


https://www.rt.com/usa/343048-clinton-epstein-lolita-express/

If you don't think this isn't going to be a huge issue, think again

[Jackie Wilson Said]

1. More relentless attacks of Hillary and ...Hillary is still kicking, amazing when you think about it

She is under non stop assault and attack from the right and the left.

Well, I dont consider ANY person who would facilitate a Drumpf WH to be on the left, even remotely, but you know.

[cali]

4. Sorry, you hill fans are going all in on Jane Sanders.

You shouldn't. Hillary will be the nominee. If you lot are going to be ultra nasty about everything Sanders, instead of gracious winners, you're going to reap what you are sowing.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

7. Sanders voter here, and I have purposely ignored the Jane story, it is as irrelevant as any Bill

story.

I see you have decided to purposely facilitate a Drumpf White House....I will blame you when he is elected and people start dying and are deported, etc.

[cali]

8. Lol. You are a passionate hill supporter.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

15. Before you knew who he was.

Bernie is embarrassed by people who claim to support him who would facilitate Drumpf White House.

Trust me on this.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

20. Then you could not POSSIBLY sit back and let Drumpf be elected. Not in a MILLION years.

[cali]

23. And where the FUCK did I say shit about letting trump be elected?

Grab a clue instead of pretentiously spouting off.

And you really don't know Bernie as well as I do despite your crap about how YOU knew all about him before I'd ever heard of him.


You just look like a self-important know it all.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

25. I apologize, I assumed you were BoB

[cali]

27. Thanks. Perhaps you should back off on jumping to conclusions

[Jackie Wilson Said]

28. You are the first and only one who I have accused wrongly

I consider the millions who will be deported and maybe die to be more important than niceties.

[cali]

34. You also informed me that you knew Bernie so much better than I

I'm done. And I have to say, I find the concern for life, ironic.


Libya. Iraq. Honduras.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

35. So are you or are you NOT going to vote for WHOEVER the Dem nominee is?

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waited a while, no answer

Hmmm

[840high]

59. Not your business.

[XemaSab]

81. Bill Clinton was the president of the United States

n/t

[adigal]

51. Yes, but this is new and this is underage girls

Whole different ballgame. Hillary can't ignore this if it has teeth and say it's a private issue. Clinton flew on that plane with that pedophile 26 times. Ugh.

She should have dumped Bill years ago if she knew she wanted to run for President.

[ThePhilosopher04]

61. Then why are you supporting Clinton? We are sure to get Trump if she's the nominee.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

62. Supporting Bernie, have for longer than you have been alive, maybe. LOL

[ThePhilosopher04]

69. Bullshit.

[AgerolanAmerican]

80. Why would you post such an obvious lie?

Do you really have that much contempt for other participants here?

Or does Clinton pay you too much for you to let little things like the truth get in the way?

[leftynyc]

2. That would be tricky for donnie

https://news.vice.com/article/the-salacious-ammo-even-donald-trump-wont-use-in-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton


But according to someone with intimate knowledge of the situation, Trump and Epstein appeared to have a somewhat stronger connection.

"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York magazine in a 2002 profile of Epstein written three years before Epstein began to be investigated. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

When asked about a subpoena served to Trump in 2009, Garten said it "never happened." The subpoena called for Trump to give a deposition in a case against Epstein; Garten's denial baffled Brad Edwards, one of Virginia Roberts' attorneys.

"There is no debate over what happened," Edwards told VICE news. "I served Mr. Trump with a subpoena for deposition in 2009. He talked to me voluntarily, and consequently we withdrew the subpoena in light of his voluntarily providing information…. I can't imagine there being any dispute of any of this."

Edwards also said that it is "obvious" Trump himself was not involved in any of Epstein's illicit activity.

Three days after denying the subpoena, Garten emailed VICE News.

"Brad [Edwards] called me to let me know that you had reached out to him," Garten said. "I looked back at my records and saw that Mr. Trump was subpoenaed."

In 2000, both Trump and Epstein reportedly attended a small party hosted by media magnate Conrad Black, who in 2007 was convicted and served time in prison for fraud and obstruction of justice (the fraud charges were overturned on appeal). Black is currently an enthusiastic supporter of Trump's presidential bid.

Mark Epstein, Jeffrey's brother, testified in 2009 that Trump flew on Jeffrey's private jet at least once. Meanwhile, message pads [see below] from Epstein's Palm Beach mansion that were seized by investigators and obtained by VICE News indicate that Trump called Epstein twice in November of 2004.

[cali]

5. Not for Trump. You should know that. And once isn't 25 x

[leftynyc]

12. I would put that quote

about Epstein being a terrific guy on every single ad in the Fall. Every single one. Let him claim he's not as big a sleaze as Bill.

[cali]

16. That would be beyond stupid

It just magnifies that Bill flew on the perv plane 25x, ditching his Secret Service detail on several occasions.

[leftynyc]

17. No - not fighting back

against donnie would be stupid. We all saw how that worked with the rest of the dwarfs running against him for the nomination. Let's try and remember Bill isn't running and donnie is.

[arcane1]

21. When Hillary is running around saying she'll put Bill "in charge", he's essentially running.

She can't have it both ways (though I'm sure she'll try to).

[leftynyc]

31. Except she never said that

she was putting him in charge of her Presidency. That's a fantasy you made up.

[arcane1]

40. I never said that "she was putting him in charge of her Presidency"

You made that fantasy up.

She said she'd put him in charge of trade deals and the economy (so far). Therefore, his ideas and record on economics and trade are fair game for the campaign.

That's bad enough.

[leftynyc]

52. No ,it was merely

your implication by saying she was putting him in charge. Don't try and back out of it now.

[SpareribSP]

77. Oh come on.

[yourpaljoey]

10. Looks like Bill has Trump beat by miles.

Perhaps Bill can turn this around with a bold move: play the "I'm a bigger pervert" card.

[leftynyc]

14. All Hillary has to do

is use donnie's own words against him. It's not rocket science. He'll be claiming what a sleaze bill must be for associating with Epstein and all Hillary needs is an ad quoting donnie. What's he going to say? Hillary's HUSBAND is a bigger sleaze than I am? I don't think so.

[yourpaljoey]

22. Sure he will... and it will be the truth.

Trump is the king of insults, I would not try to beat him at his own game.
Bill is pure liability... and if Hill is not stopped by Sanders, we are in the soup.

[leftynyc]

32. Yawn

Nobody is a bigger sleaze than donnie. He seemingly has zero idea of what's coming his way.

[yourpaljoey]

36. ooooooooooooh scaaaaaaaaaaaaary

I like nonsense... may I have some more?

We shall soon see who wins the battle of the sleaze kings.
I think Bill whoops him!!!

Orgies on the Lolita with 12-year-old girls is gonna be hard to
beat.

[leftynyc]

38. Awwww - that's adorable

another supposed liberal who doesn't know donnie at all and believes everything on free republic. The other gop candidates were afraid to use the mountain of dirt there is on him for fear of pissing off his imbecile supporters. Hillary will have no such problem. Neither will her superpacs.

[yourpaljoey]

39. pfft

Such a parcel of nonsense before lunch.
It will be kinda fun watching
Bill's full history of sleaze being exposed for all to see.
He has it coming.
Let's wait and see... 'k?

[leftynyc]

50. Yawn

Could you be any more obvious?

[yourpaljoey]

3. Just came across this story recently.

I recall Epstein and his Lolita jet
but not the Clinton tie-in.
This is some ugly stuff.

[libodem]

9. Big Dog

Is a dawg.

I hate all this. I just wish we could have left the sleeping dog to lie. But noooooo. We have to expose his gross penchant for little girls who can't fight back, again.

The Clintons could have done so much for the party in any other capacity. But naked ambition will make people take all risk, of exposure, closet skeletons, stained blue dresses and big cigars.

I had respect for the Clintons as our former first couple.

All my respect has evaporated and been replaced with resentment and contempt.

[adigal]

55. I tend to think he's innocent of wrongdoing on that plane, because it's incredibly stupid

to have that in his background and support his wife running for President.

Then I think of John Edwards and just put my head in my hands. These people have HUGE egos, don't they?? Egos that lead them into complete and total public shaming, and even jail time. Dammit.

[2cannan]

11. It's like they purposely go out of their way (Bill and Hillary) to do dumb stuff! nt

[BillZBubb]

76. That seems to be their MO, but they always escape disaster.

They like to live on the edge of morality and the law.

[pdsimdars]

13. I like this one.

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[bahrbearian]

26. Hey, Bill did some good things, He gave us a big Bubble.

[msanthrope]

19. The 90s called. They miss The Clenis. They miss how many people

obsessed over The Clenis.....where it had been, who it had seen.

It's good to know it's back.

[cali]

24. Good to know you think pedophilia is just meaningless scandal

[msanthrope]

33. I think you thinking President Clinton had anything to do with pedophilia is a scandal. nt

[cali]

37. He flew 25 times on a plane referred to as the lolita express. n/t

[msanthrope]

41. Yes, according to your Russian State media and Fox News sourcing.

What does that prove?

[cali]

43. According to flight logs. And Bill has NEVER denied it

[msanthrope]

45. And? What does it prove? He hasn't denied eating kittens, either. nt

[cali]

46. It proves he was on the lolita express. Over and over again.

[msanthrope]

47. Yes, one time with Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker. Are they "in on it?" nt

[cali]

53. He was on the perv plane 25x

[msanthrope]

54. So what? What does that prove? nt

[adigal]

56. It's horrendously bad optics. Why the hell would he go on it once, knowing about this guy

I just said hubris in another post. Plain hubris. Even if innocent, this makes him look complicit, especially with his background, and hurts Hillary, who can't brush pedophile behavior under the "it's private" rug.

[msanthrope]

57. So, these flights happened after his arrest? nt

[adigal]

58. I don't think so, but do you think in such a closed privileged society as these guys run in

they don't know what was going down on that plane?

Come on, I teach high school and every kid in this building knows every other kids' business. That is a small world, the billionaires and multi-millionaires. They are assumed to know.

[msanthrope]

67. Indeed. You teach high school. Ss you would know if a fellow teacher was hurting a student? nt

[adigal]

71. I would certainly hear of it. And I would throw that teacher under the bus in a second

Not go on double dates with him or her.

We've had it happen in my small school several times. And good teachers willingly report anything like this!

[msanthrope]

72. You honestly think you heard all the goings on? No....you haven't. And I'm disgusted at your

use of the term "double-date."

[adigal]

74. I said I would never double date - mockingly

Are you seriously implying I meant that literally? After I said I would throw any teacher who did that under the bus? After 25 years in education, I am not even going to explain further. Way to
make up shit.

[msanthrope]

79. Mockingly? About sex crimes? nt

[adigal]

82. Do I really have to explain sarcasm to you? I guess someone should nt

[msanthrope]

85. Sex crimes aren't fodder for sarcasm. nt

[TwilightZone]

66. Unlike that bastard George W. Bush

[TwilightZone]

29. It never left.

Monica and the Clenis are still classics on DU, long after everyone else stopped caring.

[msanthrope]

42. James Wolcott once wrote an interesting piece on the fascination with The Clenis....

another DU classic....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4512162

[TwilightZone]

63. "the exciting blowjob youth movement"

*snort*

[disillusioned73]

30. Oh goodness ..

[GeorgeGist]

44. And Kevin Spacey too?

[cali]

48. Are their spouses running for office?

[NWCorona]

49. I hope that's not the Chris Tucker I think it is.

[Tarc]

60. Seeing how Trump took some of those flights too, not really.

That's the beauty of having the Donald as their nominee; pretty much every tried & true attack line by the RNC is neutered.

[cali]

65. That won't stop him. And l that's been found is maybe once.

[beaglelover]

64. More RWNJ hit pieces posted on a Democratic website. This place is truly disgusting lately.

[TwilightZone]

68. In case you missed it, the Blaze, Fox News, and Drudge are on top of this story.

You might want to head on over.

[grossproffit]

70. I'll wait for the "Sane" Progressives take on it.

[AtomicKitten]

73. K&R

[KittyWampus]

75. LOL! Like Sanders supporters haven't been trashing Bill Clinton. He was an "old pervert"

two weeks ago. That was the meme multiple Sanders supporters decided to try.

Nothing tops RAPE FANTASIES, btw

[Metric System]

78. Oh Cali, you really are a lost cause.

[Cheese Sandwich]

83. They should probably call it the pedophile express.

[NuclearDem]

84. Did Bernie Sanders rape and murder a girl in 1990?

I'm not saying he did, but he hasn't explicitly said he hasn't either. Until Bernie Sanders says he didn't rape and murder a girl in 1990, then I don't think we can discount the idea either.

Think that's a stupid thing to say? Well, so is suggesting Bill Clinton is involved underage sex trafficking.